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Shōgun S1E8 Premium Release! (Patreon)

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2026-02-08 19:47:49
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Ivan

Hiromatsu is a freaking GOAT. When i was originally watching this I was internally screaming NOOO, STOP THIS MADNESS. Also, last words to Buntaro.... ICE COLD. Real father to both him and Mariko (he treats her like his own)

Nolan L Thomas

Buntaro has been getting a humble pie to the face on a regular. He needs it.

Nolan L Thomas

Karma gave Buntaro a big time slap in the face. Getting rejected by wife with the coldness of a 100 blizzards. Then having to second his father while being a deny to follow him in death, thus putting in exact same position as Mariko. That’s poetic justice for your ass.

Drift3r

Banturo gets to much hate. IMHO, his position is very difficult. His marriage with Mariko was arranged to spare her life. Despite that he did developed feelings for her. However because of his feelings, also partly due to wanting to protect his honor and appease Toranaga, he ordered her to live every year of their marriage rather than allowing her to commit ritual suicide as she wanted. It is that refusal by him, and his harsh cold demeanor, that causes her to hate him and why she soured on having any potential for a real relationship. So this makes Banturo grow even more cold, distant and abusive. This is on top of having to deal with all the mental and emotional internalization of being constantly surrounded by death as a Samurai and also being bound by a ridged warrior code. That being said, I don't blame people for disliking him but he is a much more complex character than some people understand. And I believe his relationship with Mariko has several layers to it that people just miss. If anything, I see him more as of a tragic figure more than anything else. Especially since we see him having to "Second" his own father who then stings him with the order of having to live instead of joining him in death.

Nolan L Thomas

Anna Sawai’s performance as Lady Mariko is just brilliant. She is able to say so much without saying anything or very little. She deserves all the praise and accolades received very this great portrayal.

Ivan

Tbh Buntaro is probably 9/10 husbands in feudal Japan. Wife is property almost. We in current age can not fathom the family as such in that age. That being said, Buntaro is made by modern standards (Written in books I mean). And is meant to be viewed as selfish brute imo.

Ivan

Yeah. Am just happy Sanada took lot of TV show into his own hands to demand on accuracy of the period piece.

Nolan L Thomas

Indeed. He definitely elevated the series by maintaining the accuracy for the time period.

Nolan L Thomas

I can empathize in certain areas with Buntaro but the way deals with his circumstances along with his treatment of Mariko. Making him very unlikable and very hard to sympathize or empathize with.

Danny

I think thats a fair take. Its obvious that he loved her but his actions towards her were not commendable. But a relationship involves both people putting in an effort. I believe Mariko always sought to die with her father and part of her heart did die when she lost him. That's why she was always so cold to Buntaro even when they got married. Hence why, over time he also grew cold with her. So while I agree Buntaro's actions were wrong (hitting her, berating her, etc), this relationship was doomed to fail in the beginning. Mariko never intended it to work and Buntaro clearly fails at attempting to express his love and lashed out in anger due to Mariko's indifference. Its hard to blame Mariko considering her situation was arranged to begin with. But I do believe had she shown him an ounce of affection, this would've turned out a lot different.

mundanelotus

It must be so frustrating to follow someone like Toranaga who is keeping his plans extremely close to the chest. That conversation about loyalty and deciding when is it worth keeping if it might mean death just describes everything in this episode. For Toranaga, he has to be aware/prepared that not everyone will be a die hard follower and that there will be dissent but he is mindful how he can take advantage of that.

Sekraan

Yabushige is possibly my favourite character in the show. The actor did a phenomenal job. He's entertaining and captivating in every scene he's in.

Azrael

Toranaga did fake his sickness by the way. At the end of the episode, you can see him stop the act when he stops coughing, rises quickly, and walks with firm steps. They also have mentioned that Ochiba is the sister of Toranaga's daughter in law, the first time was in the first episode when the regents accused Toranaga of holding her hostage when visiting her sister. Toranaga also has a baby on the way with his consort, mentioned in earlier episodes. In case you forgot, it's the pregnant lady who hangs around his wife.

Pumi

Hiromatsu dying was not the original plan. Hiromatsu only said he was going to die when the other generals were protesting and on the verge of rebelling or killing themselves. I think when Hiromatsu finally realized the plan he had to quickly improvise to keep the army intact for the actual fighting. Sad, he was awesome.