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Patreon Q&A - January 2nd, 2021 (Patreon)

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2021-01-02 22:11:37
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1:34 - What are the pros and cons of learning to read novels before moving on to Stage 3?
5:56 - Is listening to an audiobook after you've already read the book once "cheating"?
11:13 - What do you think of Japanese people importing more and more English words into Japanese?
22:28 - Even when I learn a word monolingually, I end up recalling it with a NL word. Is this a problem and how can I fix it?
26:10 - Do you plan on incorporating motivational content into Refold?
28:40 - How do you recommend going about learning keigo?
30:30 - When immersing in multiple mediums of media at once, is it important to make sure they all belong to the same domain?
32:49 - Is it a good idea to speed up immersion content to increase your total exposure to the language?
37:07 - What is the most effective way to do pure listening practice?
40:00 - Why is "pure listening" optional in the Refold roadmap?
41:33 - At work I have 7 hours a day where I can listen to my TL. How can I best make use of this time?
44:30 - What are the pros and cons of mastering more domains before beginning output?

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Patreon Q&A - January 2nd, 2021

TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 - Intro 1:34 - What are the pros and cons of learning to read novels before moving on to Stage 3? 5:56 - Is listening to an audiobook after you've already read the book once "cheating"? 11:13 - What do you think of Japanese people importing more and more English words into Japanese? 22:28 - Even when I learn a word monolingually, I end up recalling it with a NL word. Is this a problem and how can I fix it? 26:10 - Do you plan on incorporating motivational content into Refold? 28:40 - How do you recommend going about learning keigo? 30:30 - When immersing in multiple mediums of media at once, is it important to make sure they all belong to the same domain? 32:49 - Is it a good idea to speed up immersion content to increase your total exposure to the language? 37:07 - What is the most effective way to do pure listening practice? 40:00 - Why is "pure listening" optional in the Refold roadmap? 41:33 - At work I have 7 hours a day where I can listen to my TL. How can I best make use of this time? 44:30 - What are the pros and cons of mastering more domains before beginning output?

Comments

Vulcan

I learned Spanish to Stage 3 with immersion based methods and transitioned to learning Japanese three months ago. I will be working in Tokyo for a year starting May 2023. I used to watch a lot of anime with English subs, and nowadays I still listen to a lot of Japanese music. I wanted to hear your thoughts on the latent potential of a Japanese language learner in this position. For reference, I have 84 days (2016 hours) of anime logged and more if you count music. I did not plan on learning Japanese, so I didn't pay special attention to the audio when I consumed media. From my experience with Spanish I know this was low quality input, but the volume of input was substantial and I have perceived some benefits when it comes to parsing sounds and learning common vocabulary. Do you think there are other potential benefits, such as with pronunciation? For reference, I was 16 when I started watching anime and I am currently a beginner with 3000 kanji from RRTK and 600 sentence cards.

Anonymous

Would you recommend taking any preliminary considerations (i.e., specific grammar study) before starting to learn a very similar language to one you already speak (for example, from Spanish to Italian), or would it be better to jump right into immersion?

Ian

I’m in stage 1 and I found this guide by tae Kim for grammar would you recommend doing the advance grammar even though I am in stage 1?

Anonymous
>>50673513

Doesn't RRTK only have around 1000 Kanji? Or was that a typo and you meant 300?

Jeremy Gordon

I’m just curious what people recommend for passive listening audio extraction. I do a lot of immersion in Netflix but not sure the best way to get that audio onto my pc. Do you recommend just replaying the audio in Netflix in that case?

Vulcan
>>50804661

I am also curious about this. The program Audacity will get the job done, but the audio quality seems to drop no matter what I do. I just replay it in Netflix right now, but there is probably a better way

Anonymous

What small domains did you enjoy tackling most once you got to a decently high level of comprehension? I’m interested in hearing about Japanese specific domains so I can branch out my comprehension more. For example, since it’s New Years, I decided to spend a day sentence mining online おみくじ websites. If you have any recommendations for small domains like this, I’d enjoy hearing about them.

Anonymous

Do you think people who are already fluent in two or more languages have an easier time picking up a new language through immersion? Why, or why not?

Anonymous

Is there an Anki deck you created or used to learn about Japanese pitch accent? If so, would you consider sharing it? And if not, would you ever consider creating one?

QsavrQuest

You said in a tweet that you removed the new video, the one about importing english words into japanese, because you realized that you weren't knowledgeable enough on the topic. What changed? What are the new arguments which you heard after making the video?

Anonymous

How should we make sentence cards for 複合動詞? If you don't know both of the words inside the 複合動詞, I'm not even sure they should even be considered 1T cards. Though at the same time, there is a lot of 複合動詞 that use words that are rarely seen outside of 複合動詞. Do you recommend we learn not just the definition of the 複合動詞, but also the definitions of the 2 words (or 1 if you already know one of the words)? Should we sometimes skip it if we don't know the words inside it? 複合動詞 was the most annoying words to learn when I was still a beginner. Now that I'm better at Japanese, it's not as annoying as it used to. But I would still like to know your opinion.

Anonymous

I have read Stage 1 several times and I think this resource is very valuable, both in terms of technical and motivational point of views. Kudos to whoever wrote it (I mean, kudos to you, probably). So I started using flashcards as recommended in Stage 1C in order to build a solid foundation of ~1500 words. I believe the idea is to be able to comprehend a decent amount of input according to the Input Hypothesis. You also clearly discourage early output for various reasons. This leads me to 2 questions. When using flashcards I end up subvocalizing a lot. By doing that I feel like I am outputting, even though the output is in my head. I wonder if subvocalizing is at this point is a bad thing. And if it’s a bad thing, how can I prevent it or at least make it less harmful? The other question is whether I should stick to Stage 1 until I have learned those ~1500 words or should I go to Stage2 before? I don’t think that going to Stage 2 earlier would solve the subvocalization issue, but maybe it could alleviate it because I would gather more audio input while learning the flashcards.

Andy

When will Refold be translated to Japanese?

Anonymous

Hi Matt, I have question regarding the use of english subtitles during immersion. When I watch an episode of anime for the very first time and ONLY that first time... I like to use japanese subtitles, but then I'll have the same show ready in another window equipped with english subtitles. I will only resort to looking at the english subtitles if I can't decipher the meaning myself AND I still can't understand it after looking up unknown words in the dictionary. Or another reason I use the english subtitles is when I read sentences in which I know all the words, but still can't understand the meaning (the common problem that you did a youtube video about.) I feel that using the english subtitles in this way can be terrible for beginners, however I feel that I have a good enough intuition for japanese now in which I can recognize if an english translation is good or bad. I simply use the english subtitles more as a guide of what the sentence is trying to convey. For example, in this sentence from the show "Good Morning Call" on Netflix, "その瞬間を あなたと一緒に 迎える自信がありません" when I first read this I thought she meant, "The instant that I am near you, I lose all my confidence" - (In this show, the girl has very poor confidence in herself and is always getting jealous of other girls trying to steal her boyfriend away.) However, when I looked at the english subtitles for this sentence, they read as "I'm not sure if I'm prepared to celebrate my birthday with you" (I understand that this sentence is a bit context dependent, however both of these interpretations are supported from the context.) I understand that the english translation is a little bit off and that the word 瞬間 refers to the fact that she's not ready to celebrate "at this moment", however, if I had not referred to the English subtitles, then wouldn't I have interpreted the japanese sentence incorrectly and reinforced something that is wrong? If using english subtitles in this way is still bad, then please let me know what would be a better approach to take in a case similar to this?

Anonymous
>>51085798

In the Q&A on July 18th, 2020 at 4:38 I think he answers this exact question. Just in case this was the kind of answer you were looking for.

robert whitaker

i find myself subconsciously coming up with mnemonics for kanji readings. like 大人 is pronounced おとな. i had trouble remembering it, then i started thinking it's sounds like tuna. adults eat tuna. now i think of that when i see that word. is this a bad habit? should i try to avoid associating mnemonics with readings?

Anonymous

Hello, happy to be here. I'm a complete beginner, and I was hoping to get an honest opinion from an expert. I'll be turning 40 years old soon, and I unfortunately work 7 days a week with a 1.5 hour round trip daily commute. Outside of my time commuting I could, at most, dedicate only a few daily hours at home to dedicated study. Is immersion even possible with this amount of time? Am I too old? Will I go crazy if I devote all of my free time to study? Any perspective or advise would be greatly appreciated. thanks so much for your time!

Katie Woodhams

I've heard you say a few times that over the course of learning Japanese you learnt how to use your attention effectively. Would you be able to talk more about what it looks like to use your attention effectively while reading or listening? (I'm in about stage 2c and usually reading/listening to stuff where I have about level 4 comprehension, with the odd thing at level 3 or 5.)

Andy

How do you go about learning common words like 花崗岩 in which the definition has a bunch of scientific words? You wouldn't make cards for uncommon scientific words in the definition like カリ長石, 斜長石, 白雲母, etc, right?

Ian

How would beginners learn pitch accent ?