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Mr. Xu talks about Jill's future with Second Dawn and makes an offer she COULD refuse - but will she?

The end of this little 'trilogy' of episodes for Jack & Jill! We're getting closer and closer to the actual dinner and the end of the mystery of who shot XU.

Do you think Jill will accept his offer?

Can't wait to read your thoughts, everyone! 😊

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Helena Grace

Holy shit. That was completely unexpected but that is an amazing change of direction. Those images with histories and current states was a brutal slap in the face. Just like Davis got (good) the bonsai example is really lovely too Xu won Jill over there, even if she doesn't know it yet. Also, poor Nikki. That girl is going to see Jill and absolutely book it in the opposite direction.

Tim

There's so much here... leaving me with so many questions that hopefully will soon be answered... - What does Xu know about transforming women into men?... - And what unspeakable things did he have to do to survive to see his tenth birthday?... - And how physically trying can the dinner be that Jill will require some time to recover from her "exertions?"... - And finally, might we continue to see the lovely Nikki even while "Half Sisters" is on sabbatical between seasons?

Jade Diaz

Even after getting bitch slapped Davis just can't keep his fat mouth shut - he's got to yap yap yap to get in the last disgusting word. When he finally gets his comeuppance I, for one, will so deeply relish it.

Helena Grace

The first question really makes me wonder about Xu's hips.

Tim

And perhaps some of the unspeakable things Xu had to endure as a nine-year-old?

Helena Grace

Quite so, I am eagerly awaiting the future even as I dread an ending.

Gemma

What great dialogues between all characters in this story which adds so much depth, and in Xu case, increases the mystery around what has shaped him as a person. It is interesting to hear his justification for his behaviours as he categorises and changes men into either ‘toys’ or ‘companions,’ as determined by his algorithm. His rationalisation for his program and his actions still twisted and falls short in every way. Whilst Jill knows this, she is now placed in an awkward position as she is being tempted through an ‘harm minimisation’ angle to join with Xu. However, in doing so she ‘dancing with the devil.’ Undertaking this ‘rescue mission’ will mean she has become part of the second dawn program. What an interesting and yet familiar dilemma that we often see in other areas in life. The times in which highly principled individuals are recruited into joining with ‘those with power’ to in some small way work towards the better good. I also loved your beautiful graphics as well as seeing further examples of the pretty former men you have created. I also love how you continue to interweave this story with Half Sisters, and in particular Nikki’s story. This story is so intriguing and full of mystery and surprises, with complex and very real characters and dynamics. Thanks again Emory, can’t wait for the next episode. P.S. This is my second feedback to this episode, I accidentally deleted my previous feedback to this episode when editing it.

Bobbie

I think the only way Jill can fully empathise with some of these individuals and be an example to all is to complete her own transition. Become a woman in both body and mind. ❤

SingularCurve

Yes, yes, YES!! [screaming intensifies]

SingularCurve

So much revealed, so many questions still unanswered, so many new questions brought up. I need more of this story. And the crossover is mwah delectible.

Maggie Heels

OOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGG WOW... this chapter is insanely brilliant... why? Oh Emory you did realize what you just did here right? J&J will end very soon... i hope we will still be able to see Jill & Nikki reunion but OMG I am dreaming about continuity of this universe under changed title... I am not sure how to call it... a sequel that doesn't fit perfectly... maybe a kind of spinoff? Jack from the title may go retire finally... but Jill has a lot to do now... to find and help over 29 people ❣️❣️❣️

Nolwenn

#davisdeservebetter.😤#manifestation💪 #burnmXu🔥 Actually i think they are more close off Shibari art than bonzaï art Chibari is the japonese SM art off rope submission. They use soft rope that don't hurt the skin. ( there is real beautiful picture off it. i let you take a look. It was an old technic to interrogate people) davis does that but with barbed wire. Not sure i'll like jill come back in half sister.. but she's kind of like Nicky's big sister. Personnally i like the way nick is evolving. She will have some help scott and i think bring back Jill is like having to much chantilly cream on a cake. So why not. (And I like chantilly cream too🥰)

Richard Head

Seriously impressed with how you developed two diverging stories side by side for such an extent, then organically link them up again like this. The planning must have been crazy. Also, after Hutchinson talked about how there are ways now for Nikki and Zach to have a child that's biological theirs, and now Xu's mention of overcoming "biological limitations", I'm pretty certain that motherhood of some sort, maybe even including pregnancy, is in the cards for at least of of our protagonists. Also, Jill's plane tickets are already booked? Sounds like the get-away is set to go then for after what happens with Xu.

ckarya

Emory, I don't know if it's a mistake or not, but isn't Jill's last comment on page 11 a bit redundant with the beginning of Jill's first comment on page 12? Otherwise, very good trilogy of chapters, showing us, at last!, the members of the Coven. Very interesting the talk of Jill and Xu, who continues to show himself as a master in the art of manipulation. He knows where to 'attack' Jill in order to take her to his territory. For now we see that everything follows his plan... but we also know that some 46 hours later everything (much?) has changed. I think The Gunslinger is still 'missing'... although he/she is still present in the story... And from what I read, other commenters (less subtle than me, hehehe), are also suspicious of Xu's past.

Jade Diaz

I think Davis is not gay at all. He's a sadist who loves torture for its own sake and is _such_ a misogynist, he genuinely thinks women are and always will be second-class disposable people, whether or not they're cis or trans.

Harley Allen

This story is absolutely amazing! By far my favorite, better than any other comic, story, etc etc I’ve ever read… that being said though, there are so many characters and all of them are being turned to be companions, toys, as a form of punishment etc etc. do we ever get to see them actually fulfilling their purposes? Like even side stories showing what happened to them once they’ve been transformed or sold? Like we did with Angela… for instance I really want to see what with Mr. Davis and his now ex wife? She was punished and I really want to see what it was like to live out that punishment with Davis… just my two cents, please don’t take offense! I look forward to reading the this every week regardless!

Robertlouis

So….is Xu…a woman? 😳😱😳😱😳😱

Tim

I could ask a similar question, Robert... So... is Jill... a man? 😳😱😳😱😳😱 But to answer your question–I have no idea. Anything is possible in this story. I think the speculation on Xu's past began back in Phase 8, Part 16 when Pelicanboss, Maggie Heels, Ella Cherry and Emily Morgan questioned the young girl's picture and backstory in panels 6-8.

Tim

I couldn't agree more, Richard... Emory continues to amaze the way she weaves the many dangling threads in every episode into a remarkable tapestry of a story. Based on a comment from Robertlouis, I happened to look back to an episode written almost two years ago (Phase 8, Part 16, https://www.patreon.com/posts/jack-jill-phase-78970904). It's really worth a fresh read as it reads like it was written last week (in terms of the story's timeline, it actually was just "last week"). The continuity and consistency are amazing and really set up the current (9-12) episode.

jake112k

But Nick does not want to be a female, everything they do to him is just pure torture. Interested in seeing where this is headed.

Robertlouis

Oh, Emory, Emory, Emory. After all the twists and fiendish turns in the plot of this saga, surely none of us quite saw that one coming, that Xu’s post coming out proposal to Jill would be for her to act as an in effect coach and counsellor for rescued and rehabilitated toys. It says something about the bizarre moral universe in which Second Dawn in general, and Xu in particular, seems to operate, that what he’s offering seems in any way normal, even although at face value it does provide a significant improvement in conditions for the victims involved. But as always with Xu, there’s face value on the one hand, and the strong probability of further testing and game playing by him. We’ll see. And by reintroducing Jill’s connection to Nikki, remembering how that ended previously with Jill’s sacrifice on Nikki’s behalf, Xu knows that Nikki’s guilt alone might be enough to force her into the required compliance. The deviousness involved knows no bounds. As for Davis, does he make a telling slip when he jokes about usually having to pay good money to get slapped around like that? Does it hint at a masochistic streak? If so that would definitely be worth exploring - and exploiting. How this will end, I have no idea, other than Jill triumphant on a heap of smoking ruins, amongst a pitifully small band of ragged survivors, blinking uncertainly into the apocalyptic dawn.

Emory Ahlberg

Thanks, Robert! Sorry I'm just replying now. I always imagined Xu as that chess player who's less interested in winning than in seeing how people react to his crazy moves. And you nailed it with Nikki. I was thinking about how Jill’s whole arc is kinda built on these sacrifices, always putting herself on the line for others. It's almost a reflex for her now, and Xu, that devious bastard, he knows it. He's basically dangling Nikki in front of Jill like bait, knowing she’ll bite because she can't help herself.

Emory Ahlberg

Thanks, Richard! I’m glad you noticed the way the stories are starting to weave together again. Honestly, sometimes it feels like I’m juggling chainsaws trying to keep all these threads in the air lol The idea of motherhood for Jill... Obviously I find the idea of ‘biological limitations’ fascinating in this fictional world, especially when you consider how much technology Second Dawn is throwing at redefining gender. What does biology even mean anymore in this context? And what happens when these characters start to grapple with desires and possibilities that were completely outside their previous frames of reference?

Kris Greg

I'm in the process of rereading the entire series. Where did Part 11 go?

Kris Greg

Yes, for some reason it wasn't showing up this morning. I was going through the collections, reading old posts, & it skipped from 10 to 12. Hopefully it was just a random glitch that's since resolved itself. Thanks for sending the link. I'm rereading the series in chunks as I have time. I'll probably be back to the most recent post tomorrow morning.

BlackPrincess

Uuuh I'm really looking forward to Jill and Nikki interacting again, would love to see that!