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John is joined by singer, songwriter, and producer Charli XCX, as well as producers A.G. Cook and George Daniel, to discuss how they wrote and recorded the album ‘Brat’.

Charli XCX first saw success collaborating on Icona Pop’s 2012 smash hit ‘I Love It’ and Iggy Azalea’s chart-topping single ‘Fancy’. Since releasing her debut album in 2013, she has continued to innovate and energise the music scene, earning a Global Impact Award in recognition of her contributions to pop. More recently, Charli released her sixth album ‘Brat’ working alongside George Daniel and PC Music pioneer A.G. Cook.

Sitting down with Charli, A.G., and George, the three cover a range of topics including the inspiration behind each track. As well as treating us to plane demos and stories of testing tracks in Charli’s club at home, the trio discuss how they approach collaboration, and break down what truly makes something Brat. 

Tracks discussed: Club Classics, Apple, 365

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addie's patreon!

you have no idea how excited I was to see this in my inbox holy hell

Fourth D

So happy to have the chance to hear them talk, pioneers that are finally getting recognition for their inovative take on pop the last decade, thank you!

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2026-09-15 18:00 Is there still an Episode just with A.G. coming?
2024-06-22 07:34

Amanda Johnson

This is my favorite episode by far - so far! Also, get George as a co-host at this point haha. So stoked that you guys went over Apple as well! Easily my favorite track on the standard version of the album and underrated IMO

Parker Swierczynski

I could seriously watch a 10 hour episode of this. Having a window into their creative process is such a gift

Rickie Wonda

Is the gear list gonna be uploaded?

Jeremy Kleiman

What artist does George compare Apple to after Charli calls it Scandi -- "lo fi F&K" ?

Tim Adam-Smith

Peter, Bjorn and John ("Young Folks")? They also talk about The Japanese House/Amber Bain, who George produces.

j

Around 44:05 after Peter Bjorn and John he says another artist or reference, unless I'm completely mishearing him

NAETE

I cannot emphasize how much this is a goldmine for producer wanting to better understand the cutting edge of in-the-box wavetable synthesis based production. Thank you guys for this.

Carl Carlsson

it's Lo-Fi-Fnk. Swedish electro indie band. They had a hit in 2004 with "Change Channel".

Prong Praison

we need more from Charli XCX. Also, Breakdown of New women by Lisa would be amazing

Tim Adam-Smith

Think Charli might need a long break after Brat! Great episode tho! And thanks - we'll take a look at Lisa!

MONKYMATIK

I listened to "brat" again with completely new ears after watching this episode.

Guy Braham

really learned a lot, but shame you didn't ask AG and George to show more of their sound design! great episode none the less

Cam

Think George deserves a solo episode just exploring him and all his different projects he works on whilst being a member of the 1975!! The man’s a quiet genius. Wonder if he will drop some solo dj stuff soon

prezoh

this is incredible, thank you!!!

ALASE

this is so serious to me.