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TN:159 Barry Can't Swim - FULL VIDEO EPISODE! (Patreon)

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2025-07-15 08:00:06
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2026-07-27 11:19:59
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John sits down with Scottish artist, producer and DJ Josh Mainnie, better known as Barry Can’t Swim, and producer O’ Flynn to discuss how they wrote and recorded the album ‘Loner’.

Josh first began releasing under the alias Barry Can’t Swim in 2019, releasing a stream of singles that began attracting attention for their melodic, dance-driven style. In 2023, he released his first full-length album, ‘When Will We Land?’, which became a huge success, earning him nominations for the Mercury Prize and at the BRIT Awards. ‘Loner’ released in July 2025, sees him reflect on his newfound fame and place in the industry, whilst maintaining his signature high energy beats and captivating soundscapes.

Sitting down with Josh, and later with collaborator O’Flynn, the conversation dives into the album-making process. They explore Josh’s sampling techniques, the ideal mindset and headspace for creating great music, and the stories behind capturing sounds from unexpected places, like the toilets of an Indian restaurant, and turning them into tracks.

Tracks discussed: Still Riding, Wandering Mt. Moon, Kimpton

Comments

Jakob Davis

New favorite episode. He has such a kind soul.

Rocodendro

My favourite episode ever. The humility he showed in sharing every kind of detail, along with the great mood and conversation he created with you, made it the best one I’ve seen in my opinion.

Chris P

Great episode. Tape Notes has introduced me to so much awesome new music and perspectives. Truly a gem.

oziel mora

ben was a surprise ! kepp ti going!

Beritz

Really a great episode. Thank you very much for sharing all that

OXIME Audio

Such an enjoyable episode - thank you, John! And such generous sharing of ideas and inspiration, totally buzzing.

OITU

Can tell he's wired to create music non stop! Learned a lot and much much appreciated hearing him answer my question... Thanks John!

Migrant

Had so much fun ❤️❤️❤️

Mikhaela Faye

Rad episode. Think it’s super important to talk about copyright clearance and the legalities of ripping samples off a dsp like Spotify? The Uchis acapella was an obvious sample to clear but best believe he would have needed to clear the orchestral sample from that huge Indian track that he sampled. Not just the clearance on the actual recording but the quartet replaying it note for note would have also been an agreement with publisher/composer at a price. Cuts from recordings can be a huge source of inspiration but they come with the warning that if you don’t clear/pay licensing + publishing your track could get flagged, blacklisted etc. M x

Mikhaela Faye
>>181644153

If this was addressed much later in the episode then please excuse this entirely 🥲

Emil Johnsen

Thanks for making this. Loved every second of it. An absolute gem of an episode.

Emil Johnsen
>>181852961

Nice to have Ben/ O'Flynn there as well. A future full episode with him would be amazing.

Sean Young

I love love loved this episode and love both O Flynn and Barry Can't Swim. That being said I do wish they were a but more upfront about the specific artists they sampled and fully gave them their flowers. Felt like John had to do a little digging to get there. I feel like as an artist profiting and being inspired by another artists' work, you have a responsibility to do a little more research and raise up those voices when you have a platform.

Alpha Phenomen

It was a brilliant and very interesting episode, thank you ! What Josh says about his workflow doesn't sound mad at all to me ! And it feels good to hear someone having the same vision or feeling about music production I find it could be interesting that the artist talks more about the other people involved in the creation of these great tracks, cause sometimes I feel like the artist is doing everything on his or her own, whereas they also rely on engineers, music directors, session musicians etc, to get the final mastered product

Tim Adam-Smith
>>186779609

Thanks for supporting the podcast! Glad you enjoyed Josh's episode! We chose the format we have with artist & producer in conversation so we can draw attention to the creative process and how collaborative it usually is (depending on the artist) so hopefully that comes across! Thanks for the suggestion tho! Will bear in mind!

Finbar McLuckie

So evident that he just loves what he's doing, and really inspiring how clearly he can talk about his creative process and vision as an artist. Just wanted to say that it'd be really useful if the face cam could be on the top left in Ableton session view so that we could see the rest of the effects bar in episodes 🙏 Great installment otherwise!

Denis Granha

already liked Barry Can’t Swim before the podcast now I love it even more! great one 🔥

Frederik Roland

I love when he looks up in the sky for answers :D

Frederik Roland

The Attention span he mentioned is very very key. So glad he mentioned that. That is something you can train and it can really become your best tool to finish your ideas fully.