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Proposed Crafting Changes. (Patreon)

Published:
2023-05-10 03:57:25
Imported:
2026-06

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Ok, this is a big post. I've been thinking about some changes to the DF crafting perks for A21, since i'm going to have to re-do the progression file anyways when that drops.

Basically, you know how there's Armor, Melee, Weapon, Gun, Tool and Science crafting? Plus all the schematics and associated perks? I'm looking at redoing ALL of that.

Proposed changes as follows. Level unlocks will be 5/10/20/40/60. Perks will be unlockable by points, training at the scout and I'll also add some lootable books.

Light Armor Crafting
1 - Padded Armor Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
2 - Leather Armor Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
3 - Extra 10 quality level
4 - Military Armor Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
5 - Titanium Armor Recipe, Extra 10 quality level

Heavy Armor Crafting
1 - Scrap Armor Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
2 - Iron Armor Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
3 - Extra 10 quality level
4 - Steel Armor Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
5 - Titanium Armor Recipe, Extra 10 quality level

Blunt Weapon Crafting
1 - Baseball Bat Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
2 - Iron Sledgehammer Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
3 - Steel Club Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
4 - Steel Sledgehammer Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
5 - Titanium Club Recipe, Titanium Sledgehammer Recipe, Extra 10 quality level

Bladed Weapon Crafting
1 - Iron Spear Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
2 - Hunting Knife Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
3 - Machete Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
4 - Steel Spear Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
5 - Titanium Knife Recipe, Titanium Machete Recipe, Titanium Spear Recipe, Extra 10 quality level

Pistol Crafting
1 - Pistol Recipe, 9mm Ammo Recipe, 9mm Steel Ammo Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
2 - P225 Recipe, 9mm HP Ammo Recipe, 9mm AP Ammo Recipe , Extra 10 quality level
3 - Magnum Recipe, 44 Ammo Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
4 - Desert Eagle Recipe, SMG Recipe, 44 AP Ammo Recipe, 44 HP Ammo Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
5 - Coilpistol Recipe, 44 Coilammo Recipe

Rifle Crafting
1 - Hunting Rifle Recipe, 7.62mm Ammo Recipe, 7.62mm Steel Ammo Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
2 - Marksman Rifle Recipe, 7.62mm HP Ammo Recipe, 7.62mm AP Ammo Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
3 - Extra 10 quality level
4 - Sniper Rifle Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
5 - Coilrifle Recipe, 7.62 Coilammo Recipe, Extra 10 quality level

Auto Rifle Crafting
1 - AK-47 Recipe, 7.62mm Ammo Recipe, 7.62mm Steel Ammo Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
2 - AR-15 Recipe, 7.62mm HP Ammo Recipe, 7.62mm AP Ammo Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
3 - M60 Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
4 - M4A1 Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
5 - Coilcarbine Recipe, 7.62 Coilammo Recipe, Extra 10 quality level

Shotgun Crafting
1 - Double Barreled Shotgun Recipe, Shotgun Shell Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
2 - Pump Shotgun Recipe, Breaching Shell Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
3 - Shotgun Slug Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
4 - Autoshotgun Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
5 - Coilshotgun Recipe, Coilshell Recipe, Extra 10 quality level

Bow Crafting
1 - Wooden Bow Recipe, Iron Arrow Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
2 - Crossbow Recipe, Flaming Arrow Recipe, Iron Bolt Recipe, Flaming Bolt Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
3 - Compound Bow Recipe, Steel Arrow Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
4 - Compound Crossbow Recipe, Steel Bolt Recipe, Exploding Arrow Recipe, Exploding Bolt Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
5 - Titanium Crossbow Recipe, Titanium Arrow Recipe, Titanium Bolt Recipe, Extra 10 quality level

Tool Crafting
1 - Scrap Tool Recipes, Extra 10 quality level
2 - Iron Tool Recipes, Extra 10 quality level
3 - Steel Tool Recipes, Extra 10 quality level
4 - Auger Recipe, Chainsaw Recipe, Extra 10 quality level
5 - Titanium Tools (All) Recipes, Extra 10 quality level

Science Crafting.
- This is the only perk that will NOT be changed.

Will probably leave arrowheads unlocked and just lock the spear/arrow recipes as that's better imo.

Sorry for the lengthy post, but I did promise sneak peeks and input for you folks, so here you go. :) This should make the crafting perks and schematics/recipes work similar to how the Laser Tier works, so I think that kind of parity from the very start of the mod would be better for the overall user experience.

Thoughts?

Comments

Anonymous

Sounds interesting to me. I'm game to try it

Anonymous

Lock the spear recipe??? Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Anonymous

So if I understand correctly, we will be going from 5 unlockable crafting areas to 11. This means a lot more points to unlock everything. Will you be adjusting the points earned? Perhaps 2 points per level for the first 20 levels?

darknessfallsmod
>>108226169

*ahem* Perks will be unlockable by points, training at the scout and I'll also add some lootable books. So no. I wont be increasing the amount of skill points.

Cyclonis

Are Coil weapons necessary? Why not a few legendary or special drops in the game, RNG only drops maybe at a specific game stage or stages or bound to quests, you know so we don't have to recraft all our ammo? Saving crafting supplies for ammo in boxes forever to one day have Coil rounds, is this fun? hoarding crap all game because 50 levels from now you want a specific shotgun round? And Sharks...zombie alligators maybe? Something in the water? These are my thoughts!

darknessfallsmod
>>108248379

Or you could use all that ammo in normal turrets for base defense AND throw in a couple of coilturrets to disable regen of demons so the stuff remains useful.

Cyclonis
>>108248379

Not totally against Coil weaponry. I was just thinking on endgame issues and often (for me) I just skip Coil as my reg gear is top tier and its a pain in the butt. The crafting listing here btw is fine! No issues but was looking at final tiers and its all Coil which I don't often bother with. Got me thinking, is it needed?

Anonymous
>>108226169

Right now when you hit a certain level the difficult noticeably bumps up. More demons and whatnot. It will be interesting to see what is best to unlock and what to leave behind!

darknessfallsmod
>>108248379

Yes. There's a testing modelt (pretty sure it's posted here) where coil can disable regen of demons. So you could happily use that right up to the empowered demons, which are around GS800

Anonymous

so still no word on streamer weekend? I hope your up to streaming it. Are these changes that there will be an extra level or are you saying we have to be that extra level to craft it. It's really early.

darknessfallsmod
>>108987882

No word yet at all. They tell us around Tuesday if it's gonna be that weekend or not, so we're all still waiting., The "extra level" thing is the quality level of the item.

Anonymous

I’m way late here, but might as well ask. Are you intending to make the game harder, or will you be rebalancing mob spawns/stats as well? I ask mainly because tier 3 guns such as the m4 and auto shotgun, can currently be had at level 20. Shifting them all the way to level 40 might make things a bit difficult, especially if rng hates you. Outside of that, I like the idea of separating different weapon and armor types into perk categories. Focusing your build early on will be more important. I also really like that ammo recipes will unlock with points in specific weapon categories.

darknessfallsmod
>>110031266

We are looking at rebalancing all of the zombie hp and abilities so they aren't QUITE as tough and have more unique traits. Like some will be faster with lower hp and won't hit as hard, but will have high infection/bleed chances. Some will be slower with more HP, hit harder and mostly do concussion/sprain/break, etc

Anonymous

In that case, I’m 100% for the concept you’ve shown. More variety in how enemies differ from each other is always welcome.