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😡😤 LET’S ARGUE! 😤😡 (June 2025 Thread) & UPDATE on May episode (Patreon)

Published:
2025-06-12 20:50:08
Imported:
2026-06

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Thank you so much for supporting us this month! Now's that magical time when you hit us with your HOT TAKES, UNPOPULAR OPINIONS, and TOUGH QUESTIONS; drop em down in the comments AT YOUR EARLIEST CONVENIENCE and we'll look through them all in a week or so. LET'S GO!

As for the May episode, the episode had to be re-recorded and with Anthony having to travel to Spain recently, we didn't get around to it until last nite. So I have the footage now and am working on the episode, which is shaping up to be a good one. It will be out on Saturday most likely; we're both very sorry for the delay!

Comments

BlueZones

Some of the hype bands from the late-2000’s/early-2010s are criminally underrated.

Machine Gun Philly

Defensive take: People should be allowed to admit that they don’t like instrumental jazz. Personally I prefer more vocals and conventional song craft with my jazz. I feel like this sentiment is HEAVILY frowned upon. It’s an acquired taste! I think it’s perfectly OK to hear Miles Davis and go, “yeah, that’s great, but it’s not for me.”

vvo

Magic, Alive! AOTY

Cameron Edwards

The new “Best Album Cover” Grammy category will only be a great addition to the show if they disqualify use of AI and actually give credit to the person/people who made the album cover instead of only the artist who most likely is only choosing it. (Which deserves credit in its own right)

Alberto Satta

Sabrina’s cover is for sure really provocative but at the end of the day it’s eliciting dialogue around women’s objectification and artistic freedom, and that’s a good thing. It’s controversial way to generate discourse but i feel like the message behind the marketing is more complex than what people are making it out to be.

bressig

"Classic rock" is too wide an umbrella term to hold any meaning. Basically any band from the 60s through the 80s, and now some from the 90s, are lumped in together and sound nothing alike. Radio is to blame for the homogenization of old rock music, which I'm sure at the time was just referred to as "rock" anyway

patrick

I hate to say this because I love the guy but for the last 15 years, Serj Tankian from SOAD has not sounded good live. I’m not saying we should expect the most nowadays, cause the dudes like 60 now and to do what he did on Toxicity nowadays isn’t a fair standard to set him at. BUT we gotta stop lying to ourselves acting like he’s still got it when he clearly just doesn’t anymore. I loved his over the top vocals from back in the day but I think we need to admit to ourselves that the guy kinda painted himself into a corner in terms of vocal longevity (especially live). All this just makes the live shows feel like even more of a cash grab than they already are. Note: this is only regarding the live SOAD shows, not his solo material

Wilson Dawson

Squeeze by The Velvet Underground isn't that bad people just hate it because of the circumstances of the release

Uncle Jam

Hating on Nickelback, Creed, Imagine Dragons, NAV, and bands/acts like that has become stale. We need a new collective band/artist to collectively dunk on. Any good contenders? Or more thoughtful version of the question: What makes a band/artist worthy of having that spot?

Lana Del Gey

Why didn’t you review the new Maggie Rogers album last year? You loved the singles. Or had you already heard it in a past life?

Benjamin Lisboa

People don't talk about early 70s funk enough and it's influence on music history

Herbieguy

You get to build a dream band for any genre you want! There has to be five members; a bassist, a keyboardist, a guitarist, a drummer, and a wildcard [any fifth instrument of your choosing]. What's the lineup gonna look like, and how good do you think they'll sound together?

JubJub420

Boards of Canada should've had a rapper. This would probably make them go down in history as one of the greatest hip hop trios ever. Do you agree?

Josh Miles

The Sinners soundtrack is so good it deserved a review, similar to what you did with the Barbie movie. It’s not all score, there are originals and reimaginings of old songs

Rob Lewis

First: I agree with your feelings about their discography and their history/impact. Second: I agree with many of your critiques on the album, and I admit that they even deserved some of your sharper licks too. But this album wasn’t a 4/10. The interludes are typically what contribute a lot to the atmosphere of their work. It’s the connective tissue between the bangers that - to me - provide (a ton of!) the character. The first half of their body of work is the shining example of this. Including their EP, Opiate. The interludes are the worst part of this album. It was hollow without them. But the major songs on it definitely made Fear Inoculum worthy of a 6, Fantano! 😂 …🥹🙏

Zach Stolpa

Lars Ulrich is a better drummer than many Metallica fans would make it seem

A

SOAD has no riffs

QueenAri

The glazing in rap is the hardest in the entire music industry; see Kanye or Carti, and it's hard to find actual normal discussion in the mainstream rap surroundings.

EZGames69

Artist often complain about how bad it is to work with record labels. But then if they become successful enough, they go independent and start their own label to bring in artists, but then THOSE artists complain about their deals being restrictve and then THEY eventually leave to form their own label. And the cycle continues. Is there just no escaping the continuation of labels?

Zzzzz

Heavily agree. A decade of fantastic bass guitar innovation. Whole genres were invented and/or revised to feature a single funky instrument.

Skullring27

The Xiu Xiu cover of Fast Car is on par with the original.

Caspa

I've Come to a realization that there is a dichotomy amonst music nerds and music snobs as music snobs need everything pitch perfect and percise in the traditional sense as music nerds or passionate music listeners love mostly all music and have the ability to contexualize as music snobs put everything all in one box ...so what am I asking is do you feel the same way and do you typically distance yourself from music snobs unless you're debating them

Nick

Anthony would you ever consider reviewing Chris Morris' Jam for a classic review. I know it's an odd request and it technically radio broadcastings, but the reason I ask this is because Rateyourmusic and Albumoftheyear have been treating this as an album, you've previously reviewed a live album for a classic review and it creates for an interesting discussion around what an album can be can extend beyond our standard understanding.

Paul

The Plankton AI cover of Pink Pony Club is fucking GREAT. Obviously not better than the original but in a sea of AI slop, it goes hard as hell

Trevor Young

I felt it was contradictory of you to say that Chapell Roan was justified in saying it wasn't her responsibility to share her opinion on politics/ endorse a candidate when people were hounding her. But then say it was Thom Yorke's responsibility to make a political statement on Gaza. My stance is that we don't need or shouldn't expect any meaningful political discourse from celebrities and we need to stop asking them for it. This isn't a comment about the substance of Thoms note. Just to say you can't give some artists a pass and other not. None of them are going to change the situation and so asking them for their opinion just feels like performative para social scapegoating.

carter

Call It Fate, Call It Karma isn’t the worst track off of Comedown Machine and is one of the best Strokes songs.

Waffles!

Brian Wilson was the best Beatle and nature is cruel

Tuck

Cake is obviously known for their funky bops on albums like Fashion Nugget and Prolonging The Magic, but their debut album Motorcade of Generosity is super slept on. It’s essentially an all-time alt-country classic in my opinion.

Michael Schuhler

if your brand as an artist is standing on the shoulders of left-wing/progressive movements, particularly if your popularity is catalyzed by the intentional support of marginalized groups these movements represent, you can't "not have an opinion" on politics. you don't get to reap the fruits of progress and then turn around and say it's not your job to care about what happens in the world as soon as it's regarding a topic that doesn't personally benefit you

josujosu

Live performances by musicians and/or bands are gonna become increasingly more significant and culturally relevant, since AI would be able to fake any king of material for social media, youtube and any virtual platform, even without the artist being involved at all.

Kyle Cahill

If there is an artist you could talk about again for classics week, who would you choose? Personally, I’d love to see a review of Bone Machine (which is my favorite tom waits album)

Zedron

You're allowed to hate an album or song (or artist) considered an "all-time great" and still have a good taste in music, as long as you take the time to understand at least some of the context behind the music and come into the experience with an open mindset.

Wilson Dawson

2025 has been a very strong year for music so far. Smaller artists like McKinley Dixon, Backxwash, Infinity Knives, Richard Dawson etc... have released amazing projects and the mainstream artists like Bad Bunny, Miley Cyrus and Lady Gaga have also delivered great albums. I think that we are seeing a mutual greatness between the smaller and mainstream artists in quite some time.

Tuck

same goes for most plankton covers... love the rolling in the deep one

Tuck

don't forget their cover of Dontcha

Machine Gun Philly

Nevermind is definitively better than In Utero. The songwriting is better, the album is more focused and consistent, and the production is (deliberately) far more flattering. Saying In Utero is better has become the “pick me” music take, but without Nevermind we’re not talking about Nirvana today at ALL.

Drake Parker

JID is one mainstream rap beef victory away from being the new face of hip hop