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šŸ˜”šŸ˜¤ LETā€™S ARGUE! šŸ˜¤šŸ˜” (July 2026 Thread) (Patreon)

Published:
2026-07-22 14:10:01
Edited:
2026-07-25 15:28:07
Imported:
2026-10

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Thank you so much for supporting us here! It's time once again for you to hit us with your HOT TAKES, UNPOPULAR OPINIONS, and TOUGH QUESTIONS. No set topic this time, so anything goes lol. Drop your takes down in the comments and we'll look through them all in a couple of weeks. LET'S GO!

The new mid-year AOTYs episode is out now: https://www.patreon.com/theneedledrop/posts/lets-argue-best-164815286

Comments

Machine Gun Philly

Itā€™s not an instant red flag if people donā€™t ā€œgetā€ Nardwaur - especially in older interviews. He can be off-putting,sometimes even alienating in his interviews and although some artists were just a**holes to him like Sonic Youth, I can see why his approach can be abrasive and uncomfortable. I think people also forget that society is more informed about neurodivergent people, which probably played a factor back then.

Adam Backus

The Soup Nazi has been so popular for so long at this point itā€™s slightly overrated in the series

Tarek Deeb

Britney's Blackout feels like one of those rare pop records that arrived before the rest of the industry had caught up. Its production is cold, digital, and strangely nocturnal, stripping away the maximalist bombast of mid-2000s pop in favor of clipped beats, warped vocal processing, and an almost alien sense of space. Many of its sonic ideas became the blueprint for mainstream pop throughout the following decade. Listen to enough electro-pop, PC Music, hyperpop, or even darker strains of modern Top 40, and you can still hear Blackout echoing in the background. Britney should be commended more for it.

Valdyr the Hyena

Most people I've met who vehemently hate nu metal just hate fun in general

bressig

People high up in the music industry gaslighting us by saying "everyone at this level is using AI somewhere in the creative process" are the ones our parents warned us about as kids: "if everyone jumped off a bridge, would you jump off too??"

Herbieguy

I don't get why people make such a big deal about the 27 club. Roughly 10 (mainstream) musicians died at that age. That's a pretty miniscule amount in the sea of sad music deaths. There is tons and tons of musicians who died tragically at other specific young ages but we don't have clubs for any of them. Why did music culture single out 27 specifically?

Waffles!

Anthony i think we need to know what your thoughts are on Jimmy Eat World's Clarity. I used to blindly dismiss that band as sellout pop rock as a teenager based on the songs i heard on the radio growing up, but then i felt like an idiot when i heard the beautiful instrumentation of songs like Goodbye Sky Harbor, and i was especially caught off guard by the post rock sounds on that opener Table for Glasses. Now i see why the emo community loves them so much, and it's become one of my favorite pop rock albums

Caspa

I thought of an idea for classics week where you cover classics from outside the u.s. such as Some Dub Reggae from Lee Scratch Perry and The Upsetters or Scientist ...or Some Fela Kutti Projects and the rest i would leave up to you but I think it would be a cool idea

Caleb Hilston

Primitive Radio Gods' 2000 album White Hot Peach is a masterpiece of moody indie rock with trip hop influences and a genuinely spine-chilling closing track made up of noise, glitch, and electronics and I was obsessed with this album for a long time, and still end up coming back to it. I feel like if more ears could hear it this record could be a retroactive cult classic. Basically if you like "Standing outside a broken phonebooth" this album is that song x10. Have you heard this album before, or do you also have a record that feels extremely forgotten or unknown from back in the day that more people need to listen to?

Thunderbull

Pop music, generally speaking, is running out of immediately infectious hooks. I think it, in part, explains the surge of electropop music that may be less earworm-y in terms of raw melody but is interesting in production instead. Also might apply to the uptick in "club" pop music where there is less emphasis on being catchy and more emphasis on being dancable. I'm not saying there are NO hook-forward pop anymore, clearly. Just that the vault is being slowly depleted. Jealous Type by Doja is a pop song that screams "hook song" in recent memory.

Josh Miles

Iā€™m all for artists/bands taking their music off streaming services for valid reasons. But an interesting case to look at is Garth Brooks: This guy was one of the biggest artists of all time in his heyday and has sold hundreds of millions of records, and yet, I hardly find anyone my age (mid-20s) or younger who is even aware of his music (outside of Friends In Low Places.) They might be aware of who he is, but not of his music. I also live in a predominantly country music scene state and this seems to still apply. He has never had his music widely accessible in the streaming age (making his catalog exclusively owned by Amazon), and despite how many great songs he has under his belt, I fear that the longer he doesnā€™t adapt to the modern listenerā€™s ear, and instead continues to tailor toward an older crowd, he will become rather quickly lost in time. Maybe Iā€™m being hyperbolic on this one, but it just seems insane how big of an artist this guy was at one point not too long ago, and now his relevance has seemed to have completely waned. And Iā€™m convinced making his music lacking in accessibility toward younger people (who canā€™t afford to buy physical copies, or arenā€™t privy to using a trash music service like Amazon) is the main culprit of his waning relevance. And should be a potential warning/caution sign for other artists who choose to do something similar.

Kyle Cahill

Rain Dogs is an amazing album but it is not a top 5 tom waits album I find Bone Machine to be his overall best and most cohesive vision, Real Gone is easily his wildest and most unpredictable album, Mule Variations is better written with his best collection of ballads to date, Blood Money and Alice as a pair of albums works so well with one another that have such a potently dark and unsettling vibe, and Orphans while it is a collection of B sides leftovers and soundtrack work, you can always go back to it and find more songs you enjoy every time you revisit it. No shade to Rain Dogs though because it is a fantastic album but I gravitate much more towards 90s and 2000s Waits for his much more daring sound and uncompromising vision

Jackson Clift

Brockhamptonā€™s Saturation Trilogy is better than Kanyeā€™s Dropout Trilogy.

Machine Gun Philly

ā€œWeezer fans need to chillā€ take: Weezerā€™s 2010 albums are not ā€œalmost as goodā€ as Blue Album or Pinkerton. They are nowhere NEAR as good as those albums - theyā€™re just better than Bad Weezer. And Iā€™m sorry, but Good Weezer isnā€™t Great Weezer. These fans are totally over-doing it - and I LIKE those albums.

Formaline fuckupformaline

People who disregard osquinn's influence in the internet hip hop scene (helped platform artists like Jane Remover and kuru, inspired xaviersobased and Lucy Bedroque among others, founded deadAir) likely deal with a lot of mental transmisogynoir

Andrew Phillips

Music has never been more musical except when it's not

Tuck

Whatā€™s going on with comedy music? Is it changing? Did we as listeners ever really take it seriously? Or do we just simply not have the Tom Lehrerā€™s or Weird Alā€™s of today? And i guess Iā€™m curious on your perspective on reviewing it because itā€™s been a while since you honestly reviewed something like The Lonely Island. But then again, itā€™s been a while since I could name a significant figure in comedy music. Yuno Miles? Kyle Gordon? But do they even live up to the songwriting greats?

Byrd

Lil B the BasedGod is the modern Frank Zappa, but nobody is ready for that conversation.

Isaac Furler

Antony, I feel so bad, how to survive a breakup? šŸ’”

Snow

What would you say are some of the most well-sequenced albums of all time? I assume youā€™ll mention Aeroplane Over The Sea, but what others? (My nomination is Broken Social Sceneā€™s You Forgot It In People.)

Skullring27

Iceage deserves the love and respect that Viagra Boys get. Also they are currently the best band in post punk now.

Skullring27

Ridgefield CT is a beautiful area with a ton of great mom and pop stores all around.

Drake Parker

Every white rapper needs to put out a White America to soften their public reception

Machine Gun Philly

ā€œTed.. Just Admit Itā€ is the best song about violence and voyeurism in the entire history of music. Itā€™s at once sarcastic, savagely satirical, persuasively blunt and captivating from a thematic level as well as being an eclectic musical barrage of arrangements and tempos. The guitar, bass and drum interplay is at once seamless and completely unhinged - further enhancing the thematic impact of the lyrics about sensationalism and apathy by making them seem almost banal against the sonic backwash of the instrumentals. Itā€™s perfect.

Callahan Hirrel

Saturn by Stevie Wonder or Saturn by SZA?

EZGames69

The whole discourse cycle of artists "falling off" in terms of numbers and charts is really toxic and stupid. Not every artists remains at the top forever, and not every artists who remains at the top is necessarily making good music. It just feels like too much focus is being placed on how well artists can sell their music as if that's the only way you can rank the quality of an artist's output.

Lumi of the Grouse

I noticed every year in your year end lists this decade, there is always one country album (Chris Stapleton, Yola, Adeem The Artist who I adore, Zach Bryan, Beyonce and Tyler Childers respectively) and usually one but sometimes more underground metal albums that many people in your viewerbase sadly seemed to not care about (Undeath, Ad Nauseam, Artificial Brain, Tomb Mold, Civerous, Imperial Triumphant respectively) Not really a take as much as a random observation and I donā€™t really have an opinion on it besides that itā€™s a random pattern I noticed, but I wonder if you have any comment on that fact or me noticing it

Young Machete

People really overrate King Gizzard's versatility. They have plenty of albums I like and have more variations than most bands out there, but people give this aspect a bit too much credit. Most albums follow a very similar psych rock formula, but with a slightly different packaging; notably the microtonal albums that are very familiar for psych rock, just with a different regional scale to trick people into thinking its totally different. Their last album is a prime example, as for their orchestral record which should have been a major change, it just felt like the exact same album as last time but with a few extra orchestral layers thrown on top some of the time.