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Hello everyone!

I have created 6 custom "db setups" and 6 "game_setups" for you for default Nations aswell as 4 extended "db setups + "game setups" which are in line with my personal "List of files I recommend". This gives you now over 200 playable Nations!

The setups are designed so that there is something for weaker systems as well as for high-end. Even the "extremely small" setup can be very demanding.

The setups are my personal recommendation and can of course be adapted by you as you wish.

ABOUT THE SETUPS:

EXTREMELY SMALL (vanilla version) :

153k players

12 playable leagues in 12 nations

24 nations "view only

This setup is the "smallest". Don't be put off by the number of players. Many still think that a high number of players is the main factor for a slower simulation. But this is wrong!

SMALL (vanilla version):

160K players

12 playable leagues in 12 nations

40 Nations "view only

The difference between the setup "Small" and the setup "EXTREMELY SMALL" are only more "view only"-leagues. These increase the immersive game experience. The difference in speed to the smaller setup is not very big.

MEDIUM (vanilla version):

207K players

65 playable leagues in 44 nations

9 Nations "view only

This setup is already much bigger than "SMALL". For me, this is where a realistic database for long-term simulations begins. Apart from the smallest default nations, all nations have between 1-3 playable leagues.

LARGE (vanilla version):

214K players

94 playable leagues in 53 nations (at least 1 playable league in all default nations)

This setup has at least 1 playable league for each nation. The playing experience is again a little more realistic than in the "MEDIUM" setup. However, I would still recommend the "MEDIUM" setup to most people (unless you have a high-end PC or laptop).

VERY SMALL (Extended version):153k players19 playable leagues in 14 Nations33 Nations "view only"

Total of 47 Nations

This setup has the top 2 divisions in ENG, FRA, ITA, SPA, GER as playable (due to the age bug I recommend this for those Nations in every setup) + other top leagues in Europe and some from other continents. The majority of the well known leagues worldwide is "view only". All of them have full squads.

SMALL (Extended version):

192k players

33 playable leagues in 28 Nations

41 Nations "view only"

Total of 69 NationsThe "small version" has more playable leagues, especially the top leagues around the world. There are more "view only" leagues of Nations which have at least between 70-80% of full squads available in the database. Those which are below that number have been left out (ex. DR Congo)

MEDIUM (Extended version):

215k players

67 playable leagues in 51 Nations

42 Nations "view only"

Total of 93 Nations

The "medium" setup has the top 3 divisions in ENG, FRA, ITA, SPA, GER as playable aswell as the top 2 in some other bigger leagues (ex. Brazil, Argentina, Belgium, Portugal or Japan). The biggest leagues of all Continents are playable with this setup.

LARGE (Extended version):

240k players

151 playable leagues in 119 Nations

"The big one". xD The large setup has at least 1 playable league in 119 Nations. I still tried to keep it as small as possible (me laughing) that some of you who may be scared of such a setup give it a try :DVERY LARGE (Extended version):

242k players

250 playable leagues in 219 Nations"The complete one". All 219 Nations have at least 1 playable league. From Aruba to Zimbabwe. This is my personal favourite. There will be a realistic simulation from A-Z in all nations. It's also the setup I use for the XXL-longterm testings aswell.

EXTREMELY LARGE (Extended version):

251k players

370 playable leagues in 219 Nations"The crazy one". This is kinda overkill but hey, there might be a handfull of people using it I guess. All 219 have at least 2 playable divisions (if available). This helps that promoted/relegated teams of smaller nations will continue to be simulated as realistic as possible. For me personally the additional processing-time vs. gain of realism isn't really worth it but you might get the last 5% of accuracy out of the game.

DETAIL LEVEL:

The detail level with which various competitions are simulated must be set after the start of the game. (Options -> "FM Symbol" -> "Detail Level") These can slow down the game considerably, especially if your PC/laptop has few CPU cores (less than 8 cores and 16 threads). So it depends a lot on your hardware.

FOR ALL SETUPS I RECOMMEND:

INTERNATIONAL COMPETITIONS

Match Detail: All Competitive Matches

CONTINENTAL COMPETITIONS

Match Detail: All Competitive Matches (or the continent you are actively managing)

DOMETSTIC CLUB COMPETITIONS

Match Detail: This is very individual depending your CPU. For smaller setups I would set the top leagues in England, France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina as fully simulated, not more.

If you are using bigger setups like the "extended setup large" I would also set the top leagues in all continents as fully simulated + Portugal, the Netherlands & Turkey in Europe.

This would mean the following top division leagues can be simulated with full details + the ones for Europe I mentioned already:Africa:EgyptTunisiaSouth AfricaMoroccoAlgeriaAsia:South KoreaSaudi-ArabiaJapanQatarIranUAEAustraliaChinaNorth America:USAMexicoCosta RicaSouth America:ParaguayEcuadorChileColombiaUruguayOceania:New Zealand

IMPORTANT!

If the save becomes too slow, reduce the detail level rather than the number of playable leagues. I also advise against adding leagues at a later stage. Only the removal of lower leagues, for example if you start in league 4 or 5, could be useful.

HOW TO INSTALL:

These folders must be placed (if they do not already exist) in the same location as the "editor data" folder. So: Documents/Sports Interactive/Football Manager 2023 (NOT INTO THE EDITOR DATA ITSELF)

The "game_setups" must be loaded during league selection (bottom left).

The "db setups" must be loaded via the "advanced db" when creating the game.

Always load the corresponding "db setup". So "extremely small" + "extremely small" or "medium" + "medium".

Enjoy;)

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Jared P

Download link is Daveincids extended DB Setups (15.12.22)

Hype

Is there a lot of importance to the "view only" nations, because I read, that even those take up a lot of performance ... Do they help with creating newgens for that nation?

daveincid

That source which say's that "view-only" takes a lot of performance is wrong. The impact is not that big. It helps for a better visual representation and if you load players via the advanced db for those leagues it also has a higher level of realism

Hype

But no huge impact on newgens if the league is loaded as "view only", I assume? That's some great information tho and helps a lot! Thanks a bunch :)

daveincid

"view only" alone has no impact if more or less newgens are generated. It all depends if there are full squads in teams in a "view only" league. If they are all greyed out, it doesn't make any sense to set that league as "view only" because there will no newegens being generated. Some leagues do make sense to set as "view only" because they have full squads in the db. Set a small Nation like Bhutan or Somalia where almost none player exist as view-only, is useless

Claude Janssen

Hey there, Once you are at your save start, is it a convenient way to check which exactly are the "12 top divisions which are playable in the setups "extremely small + small" ? Cheers

daveincid

You'll see the selected nations when you load the setup before you start the game

Claude Janssen

Thanks, I'll take a screenshot next time I ended up opening the editor and sorted the competition by reputation. The name is different sometimes, so it takes some effort t get it right. Would be great to have a file to load up, or a an actual list.

daveincid

My setups aren't made by reputation only, they are made to balance the whole game-world. As I wrote, you'll see the loaded nations once you've loaded the files. You can still make adjustments on your own at that point. I do not plan to make a list of each loaded nation

Claude Janssen

Dave, I am referring to the match details. You mention that one should select to see full details for the 12 top divisions Which I don't know on the top of my head. Especially if you have not selected them based on their reputation.Did I get that right?

daveincid

Oh, there isn't a general advice for the detail-level because it's a lot more dependent on people's hardware. (I only recommend to simulate international competitions on full detail in every setup) Beside that, it only makes sense to simulate leagues on full detail which are playable so you can use them as an orientation.

Relaxinator1

1. Are there already experience reports with the very large version? What about performance? This is the only version that includes all recommended nations from your recommended list of files. 2. Your save game scenario have only 194 nations in the - extended setup very large - file. When I load the file I get 243 leagues and 211 nations. Three of them are not selected: North America: French Guiana + Turks and Caicos Islands and Oceania: Vanuatu. 3. Is it now ok to start a new game with Early Access or should I wait until the final release? Thanks for your reply

daveincid

well, performance logically depends on your hardware. Theoretically you can run all leagues with a 6 years old CPU. Early-Access is always the same as the public version.

Laurentiu Andronache

Is it OK to use "VERY SMALL (Extended version)", and then add Peru and Venezuela playable, and Bolivia view-only? I'd like to have the option of poaching players from these nations.

Chilton

Hey Dave seems like there is a problem on Mediafire's end with downloading the file. You might need to reupload it!

daveincid

Yes, I'm trying to fix it but I'm getting the same message again and again-.-

Chilton

Annoying. Maybe it can be hosted on another site?

daveincid

I'll try it again over the weekend and if it still doesn't work then I'll check for alternatives. So far it's only this link which is affected

asyraf hisham

Hey Dave, i got this warning "Rule Group has empty discipline...." when loading to start game. May i know why?

daveincid

No idea, I don't get that message, so I can't really say much🙈

Jerome

Hi, got this problem too. Using VERY LARGE (Extended version) Combo. Will try an another setup to see if it solved the problem

Jerome

Hey Dave, just to be sure. Fully simulated mean All Competitive Matches ?

Bolo_5108

What do you recommend on the star rating of “estimated game speed” ? Thank you

daveincid

Ignore it:) It's not a good measurement at all:)

Marko

hey Dave, can u tell me on medium setup, domestic club competitons how to chose match details? tnx

daveincid

It's written in the post: FOR ALL SETUPS I RECOMMEND: INTERNATIONAL COMPETITIONS Match Detail: All Competitive Matches CONTINENTAL COMPETITIONS Match Detail: All Competitive Matches (or the continent you are actively managing) DOMETSTIC CLUB COMPETITIONS Match Detail: The 12 top divisions which are playable in the setups "extremely small + small" simulated on full detail

Jamie Sandbach

Dave do you recommend adding key staff or not? Thanks

daveincid

Hi Jamie, my setups already include the right settings for this. Default nations do have enough staff, so there is no need to tick that option. As soon as I upload the extended setups, this can look different:)

Cedinero

When you say only the top 12 divisions, you mean we load the entire nations on all competitive or only the actualy top 12 divisions including Argentina and Brazil? I don't really get it. Do we also load cups and youth tournaments from the top nations?

Cedinero

So I would put full detail level to the following first divisions: Argentina, Brazil, England, France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Portugal, Netherlands, Japan, South Korea, Mexico and USA. Correct? It'd be 13 leagues loaded then. Then all of their national cups and supercups too?