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What would you like to see more of? What would you want to see less of?The most challenging thing about writing a "dark" romance is that people don't really want too much of the dark part. I struggled with this years ago when I started to talk about the missing person's case Grave's been working on. There was a noticeable drop off in support when I introduced Wolfe and his son Luciel. And now that we're delving into Grave's past, it's happening again. I'm trying to keep it short and not show anything that a teenager couldn't see, but I think it doesn't matter and there will always be that drop off.

I felt like I posted a decent amount of NSFW lately. I rereleased that 11 page NSFW comic, plus a couple of romantic themed pictures that are usually popular but engagement has gone down quite a bit. I guess it wasn't enough, so I'll have to focus on more NSFW this month.When it comes to SWFTD, my guess is people want more drama, more romance, more fluff. Keep the "dark" content to a minimum, only show enough to spice things up but not bring the reader's mood down. And keep the personal posts to a minimum.

Yes, it's my comic and patreon page, but I know I'm disposable like any other content creator. I'm simply here to entertain and I've been rewarded handsomely. If people don't feel like they're getting enough value for their $4, they will leave--simple as that. So I'm trying to do my best to make it feel like that $4 is worth it.

Please let me know what your honest opinions are. I'm always open to criticism if it'll help me improve as an entertainer. I want to make my readers happy~ If you're not comfortable writing here, please send me a DM =) Let's chat 🍵

Comments

Patty

Maybe more family life! Or like dates :3

Juanita Wilson

$4 isn’t enough for what you do for us. I really looking forward to graves background and a prego Ellie 🥰

Tyliah

I would love for them to have a family!!

Sarah Hans

I really enjoy your patreon and i feel like i get a good value for the money!

Black Raven

I'm here for the dark story. I would like to see more of that. I'm also a fan of Midnight Poppy Land and followed you to get more of this content.

PJDaggers

I'm in favor of whatever story you want to tell. I'm a fan of the art style and, yes, I came to the patreon for the dirty stuff but it was the comic that pulled me in originally. You're writing a story about a gangster, which means he's going to have a storyline that includes his dark past. I'm sorry more aren't being as supportive of the story you want to tell with the characters you invented. Either way, keep up the incredible work and thank you for sharing this with us.

Momophay

It feels a little disjointed with jumping from Luciel to Grave's background. However, I'm not sure if I'd feel the same if I was reading a finished product. It's a little harder to keep up, personally, as you develop the story line in real time. However, I love your dialogue, your willingness to broach difficult topics, and of course I adore G&E. I'm here for whatever you produce.

Hey na?

You are one of the most active creators I know so far - thank you so much for all the great content! ☺️💝

Muses_Managed

I would love some more background on Ellie. I do think the story jumps around a lot, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. The story flow is pretty consistent.

Dee

I know this a dark romance. That's exactly what I was looking for. I think if u do the darker parts, your side stories with fluff will soothe those who CLEARLY read it's a dark romance comic, but get offended by it being a dark romance. Maybe a trigger warning.I don't want to lose the intensity of the story or not feel the emotions I should for this comic. I personally was waiting for it to get dark. Shows people have different tolerances

Velvet_Tigress

I don’t think it’s darker material that’s causing a drop off, but that it takes far more panels to capture such events. Many may think to simply view once more is released for better context in one go. Fluff is more readily available to be digested in one sitting.

BlossomingFlower

I'd love to see more dates as well! I might be one of the only ones who isn't into them having a baby together yet, haha, but majority should win ;-).

Yaritza Rodriguez

Ajoji, dont look at the numbers and let your creativeness take flight. The numbers will never tell the value of your art. Honey you are worth more than the $4 a month we give. Your art is different, the story line is different, the dialogue is mature and relatable. Dont allow people dictate how to create, just input, is YOUR story, bring it to life and dont feel pressured to be doing NSFW just to keep subscribers. Your true tribe will stay with you regardless. You are an amazing content creator, keep breathing life into your story, we are all here supporting you!

Gigermeyer

As an artist who has tried to keep up with demand and failed, I feel your struggle. This world has trained us to consume media and spit it out for the next new thing. Then the artists and creators who try to keep up with demand get burned out or just aren't having as good of a time as before, or just have to cater to everyone else and sacrifice what they want to create. It's a vicious cycle and I'm sorry it seems to be repeating itself. I'm a relatively newer follower on your patreon, but I love all of your work, personal updates, and plant pics (: hope you have a good rest of your day!

Victoria

I learned a long time ago that regardless of what you write there is no way to please everyone. That being said, tell your best story. You post a good variety so I think you’re fine there. I do agree with needing to see a bit more of Ellie’s past. You’ve touched on it a little but maybe go into a bit more detail. If you do that it’ll even it out a bit. That way they’re both sharing their past and not just Grave.

Mischief Maker

Honestly I love dark romances. They're a quite popular part of the romance genre. I love your art and story telling so I'm in for this ride as long as your going. You're doing great💖

Bonny Rozzi

Being open to any kind of criticism is hard, but as this extremely is relevant because it is " your" art! Your baby! I think your characters are beautiful and I enjoy seeing them in sexual adventures is joyful enough...😊😚😏💋😻

abyfly1998

I love this dark romance. I actually wanna hear more about her dark past as well if possible. I ask you author: Do we want the characters to have some sort of conflict vs. the world or vs. each other? Maybe an old shadow from Graves past comes back for revenge or surprises him with a visit? It's honorable that you want to be so open to critic and opinion. It can be overwhelming, but you're off to a great start!

Lilia

Hello 💚 First things first I want you to know that you shouldn’t be so hard on yourself and that you are doing an awesome job at everything. People fail to see that writing a story is not so easy as it seems, it doesn’t just come to you sometimes it takes years. And sometimes what you write not a lot of people are gonna be into it and that’s okay. Personally I love the story I think you do a great job at balancing the actual story, down to side stories and also sharing your personal life and stories. What I hope is that people understand that you are human, you have a life and you are allowed to take breaks. This is your story and even though you do have an audience the one person who should be satisfied with all of this is you. It’s alright to be selfish. I have noticed that some people only come for the nsfw stuff which is alright but yea they don’t really stick too long because that’s all they want to see the spicy stuff. At the end of the day, you should do this because you like it and you want to, the rest will naturally come. I personally enjoy this story. I enjoy all the fluff, the dark romance, the drama and I can’t wait to see what else you do with it. I can wait to see more of Graves story as well as Ellies and the other characters. I’m sure there are others like me who feel the same. I also can’t wait to see more interactions with other characters! 🫶🏼🫶🏼

Sakura

This may be more personal but I don't mind the dark elements of the comic. This could be due to the fact I'm an advid manga/comic/manhwa reader so I got plenty of fluff to keep me satisfied. I personally both love the story and the NSWF stuff because each bring a diffrent value. I enjoy hearing the darker elements of grave and ellie amd that kind what makes them a power couple and makes the NSFW all the better cause even though they are broken, they are better together can still enjoy each other's company and find pleasure in it. I love your work in genreal its been ine if my favorite for a long time and is a top read out of the 100s of stories ive read. Now of your asking for NSWF Ideals I have a bias for fantasy, like grave as a humanoid dragon and ellie as a elf/fairy. Either way I love your work and can't wait to see the future of the comic. The good the bad and the dark all have my heart.

Rican Queen

Honestly it kinda sucks when other don't want the same even when you are paying for the service as well..for me I love a bit of everything from vanilla soft to dark..it's a comic that you been putting your all and that should be respected so do what's gonna make you happy those that like your work will stick regardless of soft or dark you go. So thank you for the hard work and for the much consideration towards us all🫶🏾🫡🖤❤️‍🔥

Font

Ajoji, please don't think that you're disposable, your style is unique and your content fantastic. I'm not going anywhere, please keep up the fantastic work!

DestinyC.

Ajoji, honey, I commend you for putting yourself out there, to be dealing with harsh critics. As an artist, just having a thick skin and knowing that what you create and put out is all you need to be proud of yourself. I have been working on a story for 12 years and still haven't found the courage to put it out into the world. People are going to come and go, but those who stay know the struggle, the blood, sweat and tears that go into just a project. It's not meant to stress you but uplift you, make you feel good about yourself. We're here to listen (read lol) and love your work. I love a story because I can relate to the characters and the author. Dark backstories just make it more realistic and proves that the world isn't all sunshines and rainbows. I adore you, your style and I hope you don't change for us becayse we love you the way you are. 💕💕🥰💕💕

Yikin35201

Oh ajoji, you are not disposable, and you are worth more than $4. I joined your Patreon because I love your art and am drawn in by your story. I was pleasantly surprised by your personal posts and enjoy them. It makes me a bit sad that some people do not want the full story and to meet your amazing characters. I have to agree with most of the comments, and I hope you do not put yourself in a NSFW box and start to feel suffocated and creatively unfulfilled 😔

Claire Bell

So real talk: I've been reading smut basically exclusively since the pandemic😅 and what I've discovered about myself is that I like the story, too. So I guess it's more an issue of building that base: the people who come for the story and delight in the southwest.

Amanda

I'm okay with more dark storyline. Just don't lose that romance I love! But I want to see what story you, the artist, wants to tell. I'm here for it.

Orora Walker

We, as the readers, enjoy the content that you have created and made connections related to each character over time. As far as the dark past of Grave's history, you can make it your own as you deem it to be. It does not have to be gory nor is it meant to trauma us readers. We love to understand Graves standpoint of the trauma he when through especially when sharing and connecting to Ellie. Ellie's expression towards the trauma weighs on more for her being more interested and willing to brave through it with Grave. This is the true romance.

Bugalum

I’m a maniac ,make it dark ,be brave! If you don’t invoke a strong feeling in your readers are you writing even ? Good stories are born when you are brave and you know what will make it good ;3

Tuathadanu

I agree, the dark stuff is good. It adds depth to the characters and story, makes their motivations believable. I mean, the comic starts with Ellie having a pretty dark day: hates work, treated badly, beaten up, dragging herself home, isn't happy with her life. Then she runs into Grave.

Tuathadanu

It's the theme of the story I think.

Enid Zsasz

I came here from webtoons cause I say I'd get some special naked bits when I read. So I'm good with porn but I'm here for the story. 👍

Ms. CherryBlossom

Well said 😍, I a huge fan of hers as well, I couldn’t say it enough. $4.00 is a bargain. Love 💗 her artwork and her writing ✍️.

Lemon_chan World

I love everything that you do. I don’t know what I want to see. Anything is fine with me. I do love the story. I do like the spicy stories as well so I am good with anything

Shayla Carlin

I'm here for the dark stuff but I know not everyone is. Maybe part of the bigger issue isn't the dark part but waiting during the middle of it. It's an important part of the story but it doesn't captivate people as much. They might not want to wait x amount of time between episodes during the middle of that vs during the smut. Might be worth clumping some of that closer together where possible? It just pases different than the rest. Also would love to see more of Ellie's past. Dark or light whatever that looks like.

The Breakdown (formerly Vicky Chang)

I think dropoff in Patreon membership is not only from simply no longer liking the content, it could be caused by triggers of former trauma, needing to cut financial fat, or even needing to remove the temptation of porn if one is trying to cut that out of their lives. I know lots of people who were reading/watching porn who realized it isn’t healthy for their personal emotional/mental/sexual health and relationships, and decided it was time to fully cut it out of their lives. I think you are right in focusing on the fact that it’s YOUR Patreon page, it’s YOUR content, and you have every right to take pride in what you do without needing to cater to individuals’ nuanced desires. I wonder if it’d improve your mental health if you took full ownership of your work without worrying too much about keeping all the patrons you have, especially given that it’s most likely not really content that is causing the drops in membership. And if it is content that is causing the drop, then wouldn’t you want to just gather more to people who do want the content you’re creating rather than catering to those on-the-fence people? Isn’t it more freeing to be able to create content that you love and are driven to create than force yourself to change your focus and pace and content just to suit the people who were most likely going to drop because of content anyway?

Sarah

Tell the story you want to tell!

Foxxxy

I like the dark stuff , I like the NSFW , I like good story telling , keep doing what you do :)

Amie Greist

I’m here for the story as much as I am the NSFW content so bring on the dark stuff, bring on the past

Niknak

I'm here for the WHOLE story! I feel like I'm missing info and that's why I joined the pateron. You're a good story teller, tell your story. I saved to be able to be a patron so I want the whole story .

Jordyn Marquis

I love the dark stuff and the nsfw so bring it separate or together and I’ll go down on it like a fat kid on a seesaw I’m always so excited when I see you posted something new no matter what it is but I’m extra excited when it’s SWFTD

A

I want to get deep into Graves story. I like the NFSW but I want more of the story now.

Amanda Shine

I love it ALL! NSFW is great and I love that aspect of their relationship, but I genuinely enjoy the SWFTD world and will never, ever say no to more of that. I love the canon you've built! ❤️

Duck

i like getting into the lore of the universe, especially all the fucked up parts. but i do understand people who solely got into it for the cuteness losing interest. personally i’m extremely excited to know what ellie meant when she said she had her own demons 👀👀 we honestly don’t know anything about her life before grave and even if it’s not as traumatizing as his, i just desperately want to know

Maggie V.

I want to know ALL of the story, even if it means some things will be dark or sad. That is part of Life. I personally don't need so much NSFW as I was drawn in by the Story on Webtoons and you went so much into the NSFW that they wouldn't post so I became a Patron and suddenly that was all there was , NSFW and none of the original story. I was excited to see the story of Grave searching for Luciel. Please continue with SWFTD... the occasional NSFW is ok but I want to know the story of both Grave and Ellie

Duck

plus, personally, as an 🤮 american 🤢 i currently feel like i’m living in a fake dystopian society so it kinda makes feel like, yeah if ellie can live there so can i 😂 it’s its own comfort

Emma Lynn

I love everything that you post! Although my fav is when you post nsfw but theres more components to a good story than just sex scenes! I think you should keep going dark and post whatever you want! You could always add another tier that specifically says it doesn't include the dark part of the story if ppl are really that upset about it😓 but thats just my opinion! I found you on webtoon and then came to your patreon shortly after because i absolutely love your work and i can tell how much care and effort you put into everything to make everyone happy! Make sure to make you happy too🥰❤️

fansnotions

Everything, from the personal posts to the SWFTD one-offs, has been great and I’m always thrilled to see your creativity. I look forward to it always! I can only my speak for myself but last month, April, was beyond awful and I’m still reeling from it. Your content brought me some momentary joy/peace but all I could do was like the post and move onto the arduous tasks I had to do in my reality. So, if it means anything, please know that your work, no matter what, keeps me engaged and I cannot wait to see how Ellie and Grave’s story progresses. 💖 PS - if you start adding more posts about your fashion sense/style, I’m totally down 😄

kedie

This is so surprising to me because I'm super invested in grave's past and his storyline. I can't recall quite how the tiers work, but is there a way to maybe just have a tier for the darker storyline stuff versus the fluff and nsfw stuff and then a tier for both? I LOVE dark romance and that's initially what drew me into this story and made it different for me. But I get that dark romance is not for everyone.

Ally Lambert

I seriously love the ENTIRE STORY and can’t get enough of Grave & Ellie. I love the story/character/background building both the dark and the light around them (almost😉) as much as the delicious love and smut content❤️

Zoe Chrzan

I'd like more of the dark, but also more of Ellies background and life.

Christina Richards

All I want is for you to continue making toons 🥺🤞🏽🖤

The Musical Gamer

Okay, so I got on your Patreon very recent (my first ever Patreon too). And maybe this is just me being a fellow graphic artist... But knowing the amount of work going into what you make has made the $4 more than worth it!! I also have ADHD and tend to drop content for a few months before gorging on it again 😂 you're doing great, and I'm really proud and impressed of how much more you've been posting here since I joined! Keep making what you want your creation to be, and take care of yourself!! Everyone needs a break <3

The Musical Gamer

Felt this! Makes me feel not so alone in all the mess 😂

Jada

How can anyone not be hooked on the mysteriousness and seriousness of Grave’s backstory?! Then again, I’d say forget all the people who aren’t here for it but then I wonder "but would I have stuck around if it was more story than smut?" 🤔 and… I think I would have been even more invested!! I love the smut but give me a good story any day! Some people will agree, some people won’t. You just gotta do what feeds your soul when it comes to your art!! Otherwise it won’t be sustainable in the long run because you’ll lose motivation to do it. Then again, money is also good motivation 😂 but you want to write for the right people. Maybe you’ll lose some of the fluff lovers, but you’ll gain more dark lovers and you might like creating the content more! All I can tell you is I selfishly want more backstory cause now I’m hooked and need to know more 😂

Claire Bell

IDK why my Autocorrect thought southwest would fit there. And I don't remember what I wanted to say now. :D

Miriya

I don’t do art, I’m terrible at it but I’ve always loved it! Seeing the detail and time it takes to make good art gives me such respect. Especially when you do this to entertain yourself and others. I love what you do and feel like if someone doesn’t want the adult elements of a DARK romance story then they should pay for a different artist who does strictly romantic style art. Nothing is wrong with either but rather than people changing what they consume if it doesn’t fit they try to force others to conform to what they want. I love your art and ik so many others do. Don’t feel as though you have to stop or can’t go as dark as you’d like because of people who chose to not move on from a story that they don’t vibe with. Your art is incredible, your story is incredible, and you should navigate it however you’d like. I’d happily continue to pay the $4 a month for this story as you have it now. Especially considering I’m on here more than Hulu and Disney+ and I pay wayyyy more for those than $4 a month. 😂 🤍

GracyLou87

Im new here and what I can say is that im in total agreement of some of the comments here. Your talent is so amazing and this is what you love doing. We as fan are here because we love it too, the beautiful, dark, erotic, but also the compassion and love of what these characters are going through and experiencing together. If people don’t like it, then that is okay. They can go and find themselves another artist. Keep doing your thing gurl! We are your fans!!

MJ

@ajoji - I love the story EXACTLY the way you are writing it. ALL parts! Dark and light. You are so incredibly talented. I’m incredibly glad I stumbled upon Ellie & Grave’s story. Please keep doing YOU!

DLo

I can’t wait for the dark stuff. You have to have balance. It’s what makes to romance more beautiful and I have to know what happened to Luciel!! I am invested in your work. It is worth it and more. Please just do you.

TinyNomz

I had to sit with this one for a bit, because I got kind of upset with the idea of you being "disposable". I understand what you mean, and yes, people will only pay for what they value and so.e only value the...naughty parts of the art. I originally followed because Grave was a hottie, yes. But what really caught and held me is the story itself. The warmth, the bond between him and Ellie. The story of their lives as they become a pair and learn to truly be a couple, with their baggage and backstory in tow. That includes the darker parts. Because they're part of what shape the characters, I want all of it. I also want to see you succeed. You've fought for this comic, to make it more than just a hobby, to produce something lasting and meaningful that will pay the bills. Frankly I think you are a 100% badass. So bring on the FULL story! Dark and light. Because life isn't all fluff, and art reflects life. I'm not going anywhere. 🩷 I'll climb down off my soap box now. 😅

Britny Grey

Darling keep doing your best. I love and appreciate your work. As for low engagement with post and patreon subscriptions, speaking from experience I always subscribe about a week and a half or 2 weeks into a new month whenever I get my check. Don't get discouraged or lower the prices, the prices are just fine, as a matter a fact those of us who love your work may even pay $10 for it, there are other creators that charge near $50 per month and have thousands more subscribers either on patreon or subscribe star🌟 Sleepygimp is one of the I actually pay $15 per month. This is quality work. I'm encouraging you to raise your prices for exclusive content, always require payment for your time and effort 🖼🎨🖍

Muridea

Your work is great, I love all the parts. I love me some dark parts. Makes the light parts that much sweeter. You are doing amazing, and I'm looking forward to anything you create!

j178kgal

I don’t think you should change the story you want to tell just because some people might not want to read a “darker” story. I know this is easier said than done. I, personally, find romances with heavier topics to be far more interesting, realistic and rewarding. I really like your work in general. The story, the relationship between Grave and Ellie, and the nsfw content. It’s all good. I like your point of view. It is very refreshing. Do what you want to do. It’s your story!

LisaLea

I personally have no complaints about the content. I joined Patreon specifically for this comic. I like the drama, the fluff, dark, light, idc. It’s genuinely a great story with fabulous art.