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'In vain have I struggled. It will not do. My feelings will not be repressed. You must allow me to tell you how ardently I admire and love you.'

Today we are spending time with our friends in Regency England on the next leg of our journey through Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice.

We're discussing character development, narrative trajectory, love and hate, romantic relationships, heartbreak, irony, pity, pride, rakes, passion, cognitive bias, seeing truly, and much more.

Timestamps:

0:00 character development, first impressions, epiphanies

2:00 being able to finally see the true state of things

4:00 sympathising with the heartbreak of first love

6:00 ‘there are few people who I really love…’

8:00 Elizabeth grows increasingly misanthropic

9:00 how we change whilst staying the same

11:00 painful wisdom from Jane Bennet/Jane Austen

12:00 when singular experience defines the universal

13:00 how Austen heals the rift between men & women

14:00 how our reading reflects emotional maturation

15:00 the psychology of identifying with characters

17:00 why we are always ultimately reading ourselves

19:00 the worst explanation isn’t the most likely

20:00 delighting in self-deprecating irony

22:00 thwarted by self-interested neighbours

24:00 locating the poetic DNA of Shakespeare in Austen

26:00 the complexity of Elizabeth’s character

27:00 ‘I have never been much in love…’

28:00 the relationship between love and hate

30:00 spaces are defined by who occupies them

32:00 natural world defined by who views it

34:00 the complementary reading of Molière & Austen

37:00 Lady Catherine, euphemism & polite society

38:00 on having the distinction of rank preserved

40:00 Lizzy’s defiance during the dinner inquisition

43:00 Elizabeth Bennet vs Lady Catherine de Bourgh

45:00 watching Mr Darcy fall in love with Elizabeth

46:00 courage rising with every attempt to intimidate

48:00 how character opens up & narrative unfolds

49:00 Elizabeth’s first impressions of Mr Darcy

50:00 on relating to the character of Darcy

51:00 ‘we neither of us perform to strangers’

52:00 Elizabeth & Darcy’s Myers-Briggs types

53:00 how Lizzy defines the true ‘Darcy spirit’

54:00 what to look for in a compatible partner

55:00 Elizabeth & Darcy in a room alone together

56:00 the nineteenth century’s repressed reputation

59:00 Darcy’s role in seperating Jane and Bingley

1:01:00 Mr Darcy proposes to Elizabeth Bennet

1:03:00 complimented and insulted simultaneously

1:05:00 ‘I have never desired your good opinion’

1:06:00 the importance of pity in great literature

1:07:00 narrative, peripeteia & anagnorisis

1:09:00 Aristotelian pride vs pride as deadly sin

1:10:00 different trajectories of tragedy vs comedy

1:11:00 the idea of spoilers being a modern concern

1:12:00 recognition as most powerful part of the story

1:13:00 appreciating Darcy’s letter to Elizabeth

1:14:00 the popular trope of the rake’s reform

1:15:00 the truth of Wickham and Darcy’s history

1:16:00 why Darcy separated Bingley & Jane

1:17:00 Elizabeth struggling with cognitive dissonance

1:19:00 ‘blind, partial, prejudice, absurd…’

1:21:00 understanding ourselves from viewing others

1:22:00 the geopolitical situation in the Regency era

1:24:00 Lydia fantasises about the officers in Brighton

1:25:00 Elizabeth Bennet vs George Wickham

1:27:00 ‘to Pemberley therefore they were to go…’

1:29:00 on our next book club discussions

1:33:00 what are you making of the novel thus far?

Recommended Resources:

Film Appreciation: You might find it to be a rewarding exercise to see how different film and television adaptations choose to portray key scenes in the novel. Here are the different ways Mr Darcy's proposal from volume two are presented: 1940 version, 1995 version, 2005 version. And, just for fun, you can see how 'Pride and Prejudice and Zombies' does it here. Which one is your favourite?

Discussion: As we spoke of Charlotte Brontë's view of Jane Austen during the lecture, you might like to check out this fantastic discussion that pits the two writers against each other. It is very often the case that readers will develop a strong preference for either Jane Austen or the Brontë sisters. In this video, John Mullan puts forward the case for Jane Austen and Pride and Prejudice, whilst Kate Moss defends Emily Brontë and Wuthering Heights. Which writers are you personally more drawn to?

Complementary Reading: In addition to the plays of Molière offering a great complement to Jane Austen, one would be very well served in thinking about the Shakespearean influence upon her writing. As mentioned in the lecture, I think a viewing of 'Much Ado About Nothing' would prove to be tremendously rewarding. My recommended film adaptation is here, and we have a discussion on the play here. In addition to Shakespeare, you might like to soak up some romantic poetry too. You can find one of my personal favourite collections of English Romantic verse here. And if you're in the mood for some illuminating non-fiction, then Ian Watt's 'The Rise of the Novel' offers fascinating cultural contextualisation.

Special Author: It's been wonderful to see that, along with the lifelong lovers of Jane Austen, there are many readers who have found themselves falling in love with her writing for the first time. Whenever you find a writer that speaks to you, it's worth considering embarking upon a longterm special author reading project. If you're interested in my advice on how to do this, we have a discussion on special authors here.

Becoming Jane: If you find biopics on the lives of these great writers (e.g. 'Shakespeare in Love', 'Molière: A Life') to increase your appreciation of their work, then you may wish to treat yourself with a screening of the 2007 film 'Becoming Jane'. Anne Hathaway stars as a young Jane Austen in love with Tom Lefroy, played by James McAvoy. As usual with these films, there is a lot of poetic licence taken but they are still great fun nonetheless. If you fancy a dramatised documentary instead, then I can recommend 'The Real Jane Austen'.

Reading Assignment:

Our next discussion will cover the third volume of the novel, which runs to chapter sixty-one and takes us up to page 367 in the Penguin paperback edition, and will take us to the end of the story.

Questions for You:

1) What can we learn about romantic relationships from Austen?

2) What elements need to be there for a great love story?

3) Have your first impressions ever been wrong? What changed your mind?

4) What resulted in the greatest changes in your character? And what about you always remains the same?

If this is your first reading of Pride and Prejudice, I would love to know how the story is meeting your expectations. 

If this is a reread for you, what is it like returning to the story? And please do share with us your favourite passages, scenes, ideas, and characters from the second part of the novel.

Happy reading, everybody!

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Jessica

Does anyone else’s copy of the book in ch 16 of vol 2 say “…in the town of ———— in Hertfordshire.” ? What doesn’t blank signify? I’ve noticed it a couple of times throughout the book

Thomas Davidson

Had a ticket for an online tour of the Jane Austen house yesterday afternoon. I was very much looking forward to it, as other members of our club would be joining in. Unfortunately, I was called away on an important matter and couldn't attend :(

Tiffany

Q: I agree with a comment earlier made (I can't remember who) about how feeling mortified brings change. When Darcy does his proposal, he is mortified after her line "You could not have made me the offer of your hand in any possible way that would have tempted me to accept it." (page 188) This seems to be when he realized he messed up. Then, later, as Elizabeth is contemplating Darcy's letter (page 202) she is ashamed and mortified about her family's conduct and her blindness towards Wickham. These are the moments (to me) when the change in both of them occurs. He writes the letter to explain himself, and her eyes open a bit more to see her world as Darcy sees it. The feeling of mortification is interesting. It is more than just embarrassment. The shame, the later guilt and/or remorse that usually follows and then the longevity of this feeling is what I think brings the change (either positive or negative). As I am continuing my reread of P&P, I am loving it more than the first time. The first time I just blew through it and just enjoyed the overall story and the obvious romantic bits. Now, I seem to be more focused on the supporting characters and their relationships as well as the journey of feelings that Darcy and Elizabeth go through. Much more enjoyable this go around, and I am thinking about purchasing the folio society version (you know it is good when I want to purchase the folio version of it).

Ruth Kenny

Interesting about the Myers Briggs, I haven't heard anyone mention this all that much outside of America. I'm an INTJ too, like D'Arcy, but a nice one! 🤣

Stacy

We made a reservation as well, and then missed it! What a shame!

Phil

I am reading A Gentleman in Moscow and came across a magnificent passage that ties really well with PP and the unreliability of first impressions: please allow me to share it: “After all, what can a first impression tell us about someone we’ve just met for a minute in the lobby of a hotel? For that matter, what can a first impression tell us about anyone? Why, no more than a chord can tell us about Beethoven, or a brushstroke about Botticelli. By their very nature, human beings are so capricious, so complex, so delightfully contradictory, that they deserve not only our consideration, but our [italicized] reconsideration —and our unwavering determination to withhold our opinion until we have engaged with them in every possible setting at every possible hour.” Yes!

Amanda Alexander

This is my first time reading P&P or even a Jane Austen novel. In the past, I attempted to watch the movie P&P with some family members, and as a teenager, I thought it looked pretentious, so I was weary of reading this book. The first third I was still confused on why this book is so famous and loved. However, in the book's second part, I can see why now. I fell in love with the story, with Elizabeth and Darcy, and found the characters of Mr Collins and Lady Catherine hilarious. "The party then gathered round the fire to her Lady Catherine determine what weather they would have on the morrow." This woman is so cocky, she's got people convinced she can predict and control the weather. Absolutley hilarious. The love story unfolding between Mr Darcy and Lizzy is just perfect. I don't know if they'll end up together, but as the reader, I hope they do. I have been in Lizzy's position before, judging and holding on to first impressions, only to find out later that I was wrong. I relate to her empathy and how sorry she is to believe those things about Mr. Darcy in the first place. She's a great character I believe because at the end of the day, she is kind, caring, and always trying to do the right thing. But even this sort of person can sometimes make mistakes, and that is what makes her so loveable. And there are people like Mr Darcy in the world who are truly shy and maybe socially anxious. They may come across as rude, but they can feel more depth than the average person. It's just a reminder to not judge so hastily and to get to know someone a bit before coming to conclusions. I can't wait to see how it ends!

Phil

This is a very insightful reflection, Tiffany. I love how you breakdown the feeling of mortification. You know, I was just thinking that this word’s etymology stems from the word mort, which means death. We must first die before we can be re-born. Feeling mortified precedes change just as death precedes rebirth.

Kate Araya

If I tried to comment on this book or any work of art by Austin, I’d be here for weeks. So I’ll comment on the recommendation from Ben to also watch the adaptations. I love them all. First and foremost I absolutely sincerely with all of my heart name 2005 by Joe Wright as my all-time favorite. It’s condensed for sure but it is true to the heart of the novel. Though to be honest - you won’t listen to any movie soundtrack that is more beautiful and more intricate to the story than that of Dario Marianelli. I can’t imagine this adaptation being nearly as good without it. If for no other reason-watch this version and hear it begin the first scene. Phenomenal.

Kristen Egener Chaddah

I like your emphasis upon growing self-awareness in both Elizabeth and Darcy and what happens when you discover something about a person you didn’t know. I’ve had a few shocks in my life that turned my world view upside down 🙃 and thoroughly gutted me. It certainly is a wake up call. I relate to the notion of not knowing myself until that moment or perhaps having been living in a dream world. My ears perked up when you mentioned Charlotte Bronte’s take on P & P. I must say I feel the same way and her view gave my own more substance. I don’t see sex everywhere in the novel. I find the characters very stiff and restrained. There is no open air, as Bronte says, and in my opinion, it is stifling.

Craig Mckissick

A bit late to the party here but I have thoughts most unlike my normal response to my readings with the book club so far and am posting them here more just to document them in case anyone relates; I found the first half was a challenge for me, throughout the second part I grew to love the characters and am now looking forward to blasting the third part. I relate to both Elizabeth and Darcy pretty strongly and probably will more so with subsequent readings. The characters I don’t like, I absolutely detest. I have a feeling I read the book quite differently to most. The Audible reading of the book I could not tolerate for more than ten minutes. The almost ‘comical’ voices of some of the characters is not how I read them at all. And even, I am sorry to say Benjamin, when you do the voice of mother Mrs Bennet I cringe hard. She was one of the characters I struggled with most. I feel like people find her funny but I perceive an anxious mania that is very much a real thing amongst a lot of women, it must touch a nerve with me to have such a strong response, but I just want throw a glass of cold water over her face and say ‘pull yourself together woman!’ 😆 I suffer her anxiousness reading her lines and it’s not funny! I need to read more Austen and get to grips with this type of character, there is clearly a lot to learn for me here. I do find the book funny, Elizabeth is quite witty and I detect that is very much Austen herself. Getting a woman’s perspective and insight is interesting, even if I struggle to relate with certain aspects, but this is why we read! I need to read more women, I have the Bronte’s lined up and shall be picking up Persuasion based on your recommendation Benjamin. Definitely need to breach Much Ado now too, thanks for the lectures, enlightening as always 🙏 so many books, so little time.