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'He wept from his six eyes, and down three chins the tears ran mixed with bloody froth and pus. In every mouth he worked a broken sinner between his rake-like teeth. Thus we kept three in eternal pain at his eternal dinner.'

Today we descend to the very deepest circle of hell and finally meet Dante's Satan in the epic, sublime, and endlessly powerful Inferno.

We're discussing metaphorical prowess, ego death, rebirth, identifying hypocrisy, realism vs allegory, how to conduct a moral inventory, making the poem personal, evil counsellors, the worst traitors in human history, Dante's Lucifer vs the biblical devil, the end of the Inferno, and much more.

Timestamps:

0:00 reaching the end of Dante’s Inferno

2:00 Virgil protects Dante like a mother

4:00 hypocrisy as most common flaw

6:00 how hypocrites are punished in hell

8:00 when the fleeting becomes eternal

10:00 vernacular sculpted into poetry

12:00 Caiaphas & Christ’s crucifixion

14:00 Dante’s mastery of the metaphor

16:00 exhaustion from moral inventory

18:00 power of reason armed by faith

19:00 realism embedded in the allegory

21:00 the two adventures of the poem

22:00 how modern readers can benefit

24:00 how I made this poem personal

25:00 the bolgia reserved for thieves

28:00 on not getting away with anything

30:00 remember your personal journey

32:00 sublime serpentine metamorphoses

34:00 Dante’s poetic anxiety of influence

36:00 Dante Alighieri vs Lucan & Ovid

38:00 one of the best cantos in Inferno

39:00 ‘as many fireflies as the peasant sees’

41:00 Dante’s obsession with the fall of Troy

44:00 Ulysses & Diomede as evil counsellors

47:00 appreciating Tennyson’s ‘Ulysses’

49:00 Pope Boniface VIII gets it again

51:00 on the different sowers of discord

53:00 most grotesque passage in the Inferno

55:00 Dante assaults the olfactory again

57:00 the falsifiers punished in hell

58:00 the counterfeiter vs false witness

59:00 watching sinners fight each other

1:01:00 a mental health assignment for you

1:03:00 giants guarding the ninth circle

1:05:00 Nimrod & the Tower of Babel

1:06:00 ‘I dreaded death as never before’

1:08:00 reaching Cocytus in the ninth circle

1:10:00 Cain as traitor against his kin

1:12:00 biblical irony in Dante’s Inferno

1:13:00 Dante kicking heads in Antenora

1:16:00 Judas Iscariot in darkest pit of hell

1:19:00 Brutus & Cassius in Judecca

1:22:00 reaching Lucifer on Cocytus

1:24:00 Milton’s Satan vs Dante’s Satan

1:25:00 Satan weeping blood for all eternity

1:26:00 biblical Satan vs Dante’s Satan

1:29:00 reaching the end of the Inferno

1:31:00 Dante’s Purgatorio & Paradiso

1:33:00 how to reread Dante’s Inferno

1:34:00 what did you make of this work?

1:35:00 personal congratulations on reading

Resources:

  • Music Appreciation: As outlined in the discussion, I recommend structuring your reread of the Inferno by flipping through it again whilst listening to this soundtrack. Some clips even have corresponding timestamps for which part of the music corresponds to which canto. Many talented musicians came together to craft a unique soundscape for the different circles of hell. Check out the Lost Poet/Earth's Surface for the beginning to whet your appetite. And let us know which piece of music you like the most.

  • Divina Commedia : Reading the Inferno during the dark autumn months has been such a powerful experience. But remember that this is just the first part of or sublime poetic triptych. There are two more canticles in the Divine Comedy, which offer a very different reading experience, covering the rest of Dante the Pilgrim's journey: Purgatorio and Paradiso. If you haven't already, you may wish to treat yourself to an edition that has all three parts together, like this one by John Ciardi. There is also this beautiful hardback, replete with Gustave Doré illustrations and translated by Longfellow, which is set to be published very soon.

  • Portable Dante: I have spent the last few months carrying around my chunky Divine Comedy almost everywhere I go. And I have found this book to be one of the best conversation starters. So many people are intrigued when they see this work specifically and want to discuss it. But carrying around the entire Commedia could be overkill. So Mark Musa has sublimely collated parts of Inferno, Purgatorio, Paradiso, and also La Vita Nuova, together in a wonderful Penguin paperback here, so you can more easily carry heaven and hell with you over the course of your day.

  • Classical Expansion: Now you have read Dante's Inferno, you may find it rewarding to sample some of the other great epics in the tradition. You can come forward in time and appreciate John Milton's Paradise Lost, or you can go back to Dante's greatest influence and check out Virgil's Aeneid, or Homer's Odyssey and Iliad. There are so many great translations available, but I am currently very partial to the Robert Fitzgerald for all three. Or you may wish to choose Ovid's Metamorphoses. I love the Arthur Golding translation, which influenced Shakespeare, and the Mandelbaum or Melville translation.

  • Rereading Exercise: Go back through your copy of the Inferno, alight upon the passages that you marked, and spend time with your most resonant lines. Why did they leap out at you at this specific time in your life? For a great focusing exercise: identify your top three favourite cantos and your three least favourite cantos. Why do you like or dislike them? You'll likely find that the cantos you love the most have your affection for multiple reasons. Perhaps they are aesthetically pleasing, cognitively challenging, and also speak to you on a deep personal level. Give yourself some time and space to let the ideas percolate and consolidate in your mind. And let us know your choice of favourite lines and cantos because it will be fascinating to compare amongst ourselves.

  • Our Next Great Book: Now that we have made it through the heart of darkness that is Dante's Inferno, we will be forging on into a tremendous novel. This weekend coming, we will have our introductory 'how to read' video for Thomas Hardy's Far From the Madding Crowd. In the next few days, we will also unveil the chosen story for the Secret Seasonal Dickens and talk about our approach. But first, you may wish to secure your copy of Hardy and start getting excited for that. I recommend the Oxford Classics edition for paperback and Everyman's Library for hardback.

Questions for You:

1) What did you make of the end of the Inferno?

2) What will you remember most from your journey through Dante's hell?

3) Do you see yourself exploring the next two parts of the Divine Comedy?

4) Which cantos were your favourites? And least favourites? And why?

5) How would you persuade another to read Dante? And what advice would you give to facilitate a meaningful reading experience?

And please let us know what lines, passages, or ideas have stood out to you the most from this part of the poem. Dante said he wished his readers to gather fruit from this work, so let us know what you have gathered from your journey through the Inferno.

Congratulations on reading Dante's Inferno, everybody!

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Mirjam

Thanks Ben for another wonderful lecture and all members for their thoughful comments. I’m glad I read it, but I’m also very glad I have finished it. I’m not sure if I will read the rest of the work; maybe after some time when I have had time to get some of the more troubeling pictures out of my head. I struggled quite a bit with Dante, or maybe it is more fair to say that I struggle with religion and Christianity. But I am glad that it was included in the schedule if only that it helps to build the foundation for appreciating so many other great books. I saw some stunning similarities between how the gates of Dis and the surrounding area were depicted with Tolkien’s Mordor when Frodo and Sam first approach the gates through the dead marches. I’m pretty sure Tolkien knew his Dante. There are plenty other similarities between Sauron - Morgoth and Lucifer. The utter cruelty of the punishments that literarily go on for eternity (‘abandon all hope’) is not exactly congruent with ‘God is Love’. This God is petty, cruel and without any pity. Nowadays we consider (and rightly so) that life long imprisonment without any chance of every getting out inhumane. What really puzzles me, looking from a theological viewpoint, that torture and all kinds of the most cruel methods of execution were thought just; to be done to people by people in this life. How does this fit in with the bible in which God says that “vengeance is mine”. All in all an interesting ‘deep dive’, but I’m sure glad I resurfaced :)

Maiu

I feel a little late to comment section, but I had no mental energy left over this week, just too busy with work. So I have also been trying to put into words how I feel having finished Dante's Inferno because I loved the reading experience (I am on my way climbing the steps of purgatory with him right now), but it was hard to figure out what part exactly was it that kept me going. I feel like the self reflection parts of my reading were a bit lacking and I have no religious background to connect through that, also no big poetry reader. Though I can understand the hell is in our mind thing, but I read like a lot of commentary in the back of the book to understand what was being said exactly and lectures here and other media has helped more with that as well. So initially, for me it was like a guided tour through someone else's hell. Surprising part I guess, was I actually really enjoyed learning more about random people in history and how some of it feels really relatable even in our time. There is something immensely comforting in reading old books and seeing that people have always been people. I have enjoyed the reflections of different lecturers on the souls stuck there. Lectures here have been extremely helpful and motivating, especially in the beginning to get into the flow of things. I plan to return to Inferno, when I have had little more relevant reading under me, but I will continue with Purgatory and if I still have some steam left also into the paradise. A canto in the morning has become a habit for now that I can not let go yet, and I still feel the need to know how the other souls are different from the ones in hell. Also, as a no big poetry reader yet, I am discovering I really enjoy the epic poetry more? Or at least I never grew bored here or while reading Odyssey, so Aeneid is somewhere in the future waiting for me as well.

Bianca

I kept stumbling on Tolkien everywhere in Dante too! Those towers, and wastes and Dante's bickering "semi-militarized" (Ciardi's words I think) demons recalling to me Tolkien's orc dialogue in Mordor. Leave it to Tolkien to humanize his demons and wonder how they might feel and perhaps wish to escape it all and set up somewhere on their own. In Dante they are humorous and grotesque, in Tolkien they are something more. I enjoyed the ride with this one, but like you was left more often puzzled than enlightened.

Stacy

What a great lecture. Benjamin! Thank you! I’m afraid I’m a little late to this one… I’m really excited to continue to purgatory soon! This has been a really great read. The fantastical aspect really struck me, it feels like this must be the starting point for so much “high fantasy”. Bringing the work to my other current reads happens so naturally, I have found so many interesting parallels with The count of Monte Cristo. They are not simple enough to be explained in a short comment, and are more related to the character evolutions and plot development/devices (for example, writing in important historical figures as lesser than the main character). I may work on a separate comment on this. Virgil and Dante seem to have already gone through a bit of character development, with Dante becoming more assertive and less pitying of the sinners, and Virgil becoming more protective and human. Is this because of Dante’s own humanity influencing him, and because he’s only been in contact with great figures of Greek antiquity who have long since let go of certain worries of the living? (Meanwhile, the dead keep a much more human aspect seeing as they have a lot more to worry about hahah). I’m going to keep my comment short today seeing as I’m late to the chat! Honorine

Bianca

A bit late on this one as well, although I thoroughly enjoyed the reading, the lectures (great lectures!) the supplementary readings - especially La Vita Nuova - as well as everyone's comments. I still don't quite know what to make of this work. It's like reading a great fantasy or science fiction novel - highly engaging. But I find myself not knowing what to make of it as fiction, and not understanding what Dante himself wanted to convey. Reading it right after La Vita Nuova, I kept thinking of the Inferno as a continuation of the theme of his love for Beatrice - and however mistaken I may be about this it stuck with me. As if the Inferno was a sort of Catholic version of Bai Juyi's Song of Endless sorrow in which the Emperor Xuanzong sends a factotum to the Afterlife for a sign from his lost love Yang Guifei. With Virgil playing the role of Daoist. Otherwise, why is Dante in this Dark Wood to begin with? What is his problem? What is he seeking? If it isn't Beatrice then I'm not sure what it is, and it puzzled me throughout. I chose Hamlet as my co-read for this one and came across similar concerns and even obsessions . While there isn't any influence of Dante on Shakespeare, this colored my experience, gave me something more familiar to hang onto, and helped me humanize Dante's journey a bit. The view of Fate/Lady Fortune/the Stars as determining the destiny of our lives on earth, the fear of death (what Virgil calls "cowardice") as Dante struggles to cross into that "undiscovered country" the musings on the limitations of Reason, and the problems of a dithering Will. This brought forward for me how much of Dante's journey (at least here) is a grand tour of a Godless and Pagan world in which even the blasphemers mock not God but Jove. Dante's insistence on Fraud/Deceit as the essential human vice recalls to me a famous rabbinical midrash from Genesis Rabbah (8.5) in which God consults with his ministers (angels) about whether or not He should create man. He is told by (the angel of) Truth not to create man as man will be a liar. God does not disagree, but rather casts Truth down to the earth. So creation will go on regardless and man will be what he will be. Milton cast Satan as the great Liar and deceiver, but the rabbis (and Dante) seem to have more interest in that flaw within the human heart. What really stuck with me in the end was the dark cinematic power of Dante's writing. For all his intellectualism he was a master of the harrowing scene. In the end though I feel I was quite misreading (and not necessarily in the most productive of ways!) this work and probably need to return to it again.

Svetlana Monroe

I was amazed to stumble, in the very depth of hell, among the darkest dark - on Gianni Schicchi! that I knew solely from comical Puccini’s opera…. and truly didn’t think he was so bad of a sinner…. And overall -one of the outcomes from reading Dante for me is a ceaseless sense of guilt of not having read this, and this… and this - or having a patchy knowledge of the works. Could we read Aeneid and/or Iliad/Odyssey next year?

Shelley Riden

Svetlana I second that request! ! My education in the classics is sketchy, and I am also hoping for Virgil or the Greeks in the coming months.

Aaron Marion

This was my first reading of Dante and I have to admit, I'm not a fan. I read the Longfellow translation and found it abysmally difficult to read. I do want to peruse another translation sometime (maybe this Friday when i go to Barnes and Noble) and see if I can tell a major difference in translation styles. If I found there to be then I may well reread this early next year. On a different note, I found The Inferno to be a poor man's version of hell. It felt too contrived, too fanfic, too tryhard. I was surprised by how many people around Dante, currently living or recently deceased, he slammed into this poem. I'm also not a fan of what the book has done to the history of Christian formation and its understanding of what hell is and what it is like....but that's for another time

R.R. Scott

An interesting perspective! Dante did seem to have a bitter edge he was trying to satisfy. Like writing the Inferno was therapeutic, allowing him to slam those he had strong and unfavourable opinions toward. I think if someone had written this today, the characters being contextual to modern people, a publisher would find it laughable and childish in its attempts, and would ask that the author strip out some of the personal rhetoric and focus on the cool hell stuff.

CIN27

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/online-features/viewpoints/ugolino Statue of ugolino and his sons. I knew this statue but didn't realize it was in Dante. What a surprise to recognize the story as I read it. All the cross references through Inferno is great and would make rereading this in 10 years so see what new things I would learn in that time and then recognize in the story again. It's amazing how it has permeated life and culture today.

Rebekah Sunday

A bit late to the party, I’ve finally dragged myself out of hell. Not my favorite read, but glad to have done it. Now let me run back into the cozy arms of Charles Dickens. 📚🕯️🏃🏻‍♀️

Valentina

Hi Rebekah, I’m doing the opposite…just returned to hell for a bit🚶‍♀️

Valentina

Q5) To persuade my students to study Dante I would direct them to this newly created AI visual summary in modern Italian: https://youtu.be/7kSwm_UoeSI?feature=shared And to facilitate a meaningful learning experience I would go through the basics of pronunciation, get them to find some cognates and provide some key words and phrases. It starts at 2:00mins after an introduction by the creator. (English subtitles in settings)

Samuel Thompson

Ben mentioned Lucan and his epic poem Farsalia, does anyone here recommend a specific translation for it? It doesn’t seem to have many different English translations