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‘You mock my blindness? You with your precious eyes, you're blind to the corruption of your life, to the house you live in, those you live with — who are your parents? Do you know? All unknowing, you are the scourge of your own flesh and blood.'

Today we are appreciating the sublime play that Aristotle considered the most perfect tragedy: Oedipus Rex by Sophocles.

We're discussing how myths encode universal truths, ancient prophecies, existential crisis, dramatic irony, the mythology of Thebes, fortune vs ruin, fate vs free will, sympathy, tragic flaws, Freud's Oedipal Complex, life lessons from Greek tragedy, and much more.

Please feel free to listen before, during, or after your reading, enjoying the work and talk at the pace that best suits you.

Timestamps:

0:00 the reputation of Oedipus Rex

2:00 how this great tragedy begins

4:00 plagues & war in Ancient Athens

6:00 playwriting career of Sophocles

8:00 Dionysus & in vino veritas

10:00 existential crisis in Ancient Greece

12:00 crash course in Theban mythology

14:00 the prophecy of Laius & Jocasta

16:00 solving the riddle of the Sphinx 

18:00 how did Oedipus become king?

20:00 the power of dramatic irony

22:00 the leadership of King Oedipus

24:00 ‘pay back blood with blood’

26:00 the birth of gothic & mystery 

28:00 be careful about what you curse

30:00 the story of the seer Tiresias 

32:00 is pride always the tragic flaw?

34:00 sympathy vs condemnation 

36:00 ancient prophecies & oracles

38:00 can fate arise from free will?

40:00 how to love your mortality

42:00 art gives meaning to suffering

44:00 why are tragedies so cathartic?

46:00 Oedipus argues with Tiresias

48:00 masterful dialogue of Sophocles

50:00 ‘your great fortune was your ruin’

52:00 a life lesson from Oedipus Rex

54:00 Jocasta’s dismissal of prophecies

56:00 Oedipus begins to see the truth

58:00 the symbolism of the crossroads

1:00:00 Oedipus did not heed the warning

1:02:00 the moment of anagnorisis

1:04:00 Jocasta’s response to the reveal

1:06:00 how Oedipus punishes his eyes

1:08:00 Shakespeare vs Sophocles 

1:10:00 stage history of Oedipus Rex

1:12:00 Oedipus takes responsibility

1:14:00 why does he remove his eyes?

1:16:00 why does this tragedy resonate? 

1:18:00 Sigmund Freud’s Oedipal Complex

1:20:00 psychological significance of myths

1:22:00 how reading is like dreaming

1:24:00 the anxiety of influence in art

1:26:00 appreciating Freud’s analysis

1:28:00 the universality of great tragedy

1:30:00 the ending of Oedipus Rex

1:32:00 life lessons from ancient tragedy

1:33:00 freedom to search for the truth

1:34:00 related tragic recommendations

1:35:00 your thoughts on Oedipus Rex?

Resources to Explore:

  • Our Next Tragedy: Our next deep-dive appreciation will be for Medea by Euripides. Whilst my favourite translations for the Oresteia of Aeschylus and Oedipus Rex by Sophocles are those by Robert Fagles, my favoured translation for Euripides is the Philip Vellacott translation available in Penguin paperback (which also includes several more great plays). Of course, our anthology recommended anthology of Greek tragedies also has an excellent translation, and prefacing essay, by Rachel Kitzinger.

  • Adaptations: In our previous discussion, I recommended checking out some superb adaptations of Oedipus Rex like this one from the BBC. For Medea, there is a phenomenal television movie adaptation from 1983 starring Zoe Caldwell that you can enjoy here. There's also another great film option from 1959 starring Judith Anderson here. For a dramatic audio performance, with a full cast, then this reading recorded by a group of World Literature teachers at a high school in California is superb. If you enjoyed the Pier Paolo Pasolini film of Oedipus Rex, then you might be interested to know that he directed an adaptation of the mythology of Medea too in 1969 starring the opera singer Maria Callas in her only film role.

  • More Plays: If you were taken up by Sophocles, you might like to explore more of his works. Check out his other Theban plays, Antigone and Oedipus at Colonus. You could also check out his Ajax and Electra. Or you could return to Aeschylus and enjoy Seven Against Thebes. For a modern retelling of the Oedipus myth, you might find Jean Cocteau's The Infernal Machine interesting. And Shakespeare always makes for a powerful comparison. When it comes to themes of blindness vs sight, pair the tragedy of Sophocles with King Lear. Or, if our psychoanalytical discussion interested you, follow up Freud's recommendation and watch Hamlet. What differences, and similarities, can you find between Sophoclean and Shakespearean tragedy?

  • History: If you're interested in the development of and relationship between myth, epic, tragedy, and history, you could check out the works of the two most influential historians of the Ancient Greek world: the Histories of Herodotus and the History of the Peloponnesian War by Thucydides. Herodotus, who was friends with Sophocles, gives us history that is still mythic, filled with prophecies, divine retribution, figures of legend, and moral lessons. Thucydides marks a grand break from this style of historical inquiry, giving us more empirical accuracy and political realism. One doesn't need to read these big works all the way through. It's rewarding to dip into them, and read a little bit here and there, as your interest dictates, over the long-term.

  • Mythology: As we've been talking a lot about the anxiety of influence, it might be interesting to consider the relationship between the great Ancient Greek writers and the poets of Ancient Rome. Ovid came many hundreds of years after playwrights like Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides, but is still utilising the same mythic material (just changing the names and giving his own twist). So you might like to dip into some of our lectures on Ovid's Metamorphoses. We cover the backstory of the prophet Tiresias here, the founding of Thebes here, and the story of Jason, the Golden Fleece, and Medea here.

  • Reading Exercise: You're staging your own City Dionysia in the Theatre of Your Imagination. We have now seen the tragic offerings of two sublime playwrights, Aeschylus and Sophocles, and are preparing ourselves for a great play from Euripides. But who wins the contest so far? Which moved you or impressed you more: the Oresteia or Oedipus Rex? You might want to rank them on their plots, characterisation, tragic feeling, handling of theme, potential for spectacle, intellectual arguments, and, with the concession that most of us aren't reading the original, language and lyricism too. Which playwright do you think is objectively stronger? And which one do you subjectively prefer?

Reading Assignment:

Our next tragedy will be Medea by Euripides, which will further deepen our appreciation of Ancient Greek theatre. Keep your eye on which playwright resonates most powerfully with you.

We're continuing with our alternating rhythm between our tragedies and our Big Read. So, this coming weekend, we will be returning to Lonesome Dove, and our discussion for Euripides will be the weekend following that. If you're reading both at the same time, let us know how you're finding the experience.

Questions for You:

1) Do you sympathise with Oedipus?

2) How did you feel during your engagement with Oedipus Rex?

3) Which playwright do you prefer so far? Aeschylus or Sophocles?

4) Freud believed that the destiny of Oedipus moves us because it might have been ours. Do you agree with his reading?

If this is your first experience with Oedipus Rex, I would love to know how the story met your expectations. If this is a reread for you, what is it like returning to the work? And please do share with us your favourite passage from this tragedy.

Happy reading, everybody!

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Gail Rothschild

1974 Genevieve Bujold in. Jean Anouilh's Antigone.

Jeannine Thomas

What a painful story simply due to the "unbeknownst" sins of the characters. Though I cringe at the mother/son relationship, it can happen to anyone under the circumstances. How can the Gods punish one for the sins committed unknowingly? Had "bystanders" come forth earlier, mistakes could have been prevented. There is a great commentary to be made around the vital acts of bystanders - "to do or not to do" is equally as a philosophical struggle as "to be or not to be". I read this play in tandem with the recommended play and WOW what an experience. I really love Aeschylus' use of the chorus and would have loved to have watched a play in tandem with that read, IF and only if the chorus was in fact reading their lines all as one synchronized voice. The chorus does not and I had an expectation of the words being read in unison - all voices together. Nonetheless, one of the reasons I prefer Aeschylus' writing is simply because it is so unique to any style. Sophocles and Euripides read as modern screenplay scripts and move along as the typical fast paced dialogue amongst the players. In the end, with Oedipus Rex, I completely agree with Freud - this could happen to any of us. I remember watching an Oprah Winfrey show and a brother and sister had married each other NOT knowing they were related because the whole 6 or so siblings were all adopted out as babies across several different states. This brother and sister met as adults and fell in love. It can happen...should God punish? Should the sinners inflict self mutilation or punishment when the reality of the sin is finally known? Should society damn the sinners and hold their actions as taboo even though the sin was committed unknowingly? In the case of the brother and sister - does this change the adoption process and mandate that adopted children know their parents and siblings once they come of age? Many things to ponder...

Ellen Young

I enjoyed this lecture very much - I never knew before about Laius abusing the boy. It made me think about how intertwined the family crimes and curses and fates are. When I first read Oedipus in high school I felt for him deeply, because of the whole inevitability of the outcome. Later in a college course it came up again and I felt less sympathy because his quick rage seemed to be his own undoing. He really angers easily, blames quickly and unfairly, and isn’t too slow to murder, he’d even have murdered Jocasta I think I understand if she hadn’t killed herself first, but how is she to blame? I blamed him. Now decades later I’m circling back to sympathy because I see him cursed with this temperament, and in the context of these oracles I could see potentially that his fate was sealed by being born that way. I wondered when I was thinking about this about whether the Greek fate was related to the Indian idea of karma. I had a teacher who felt that there must be reincarnation going back infinitely because otherwise how could it be fair. I don’t think I believe we come back, but I did see his point. Karma was earned by past actions, but baby Oedipus, if he didn’t have a previous life of error, was an innocent babe with a preordained fate - why? Maybe because of Laius’ crimes. So I’m back to sympathy.

Kelly R.

I’m tempted to say I prefer Oedipus to The Oresteia because of the greater “readability” (language), excellent handling of the theme of fate versus- or fate as wrapped up in free will, and very strong tragic feeling. However, if Aristotle says that plot is primary, both feel very strong to me. And I much prefer the intellectual arguments of justice versus vengeance in the Oresteia, and higher potential for spectacle (to me). So objectively I think Oedipus is stronger but subjectively I prefer the Oresteia. I don’t know that I could have articulated that though without the guidance! Plus, Oedipus being so quick to react all the time just irks me.

Maureen Reynolds

I found all of the plays of Oedipus Rex extremely compelling. I didn't want to stop reading. Of the three, I continue to like Antigone best. I read Seamus Heaney's version of Antigone, The Burial at Thebes immediately after reading an older version (1912 - Gutenberg). His version read so quickly.

Maureen Reynolds

All Oedipus had to do to avoid the prophecy from coming true was to not have sex with a woman old enough to be his mother! The solution was so simple!

Jessi

It’s really amazing to me, thanks to this incredible book club, the great education in the ancient classics I’ve received over the last year. I had no idea how much I needed Greek tragedy in my life, lol. After reading these stories, 3,000+ years ago no longer feels so long ago. Listened to a fantastic production of Oedipus Rex on Audible.com this week. Listened twice because it was THAT good. It gave me a satisfaction similar to Shakespeare, The Brothers Grimm, The Decameron, The Canterbury Tales, even the Twilight Zone. It’s everything Ben mentioned in the lecture about why we like tragedies—suffering, fear, pity, fate, decisions made, consequences to actions, empathy, purging of emotions, etc. Even better when there’s a good twist. They make us feel, and more importantly make us think, which Aristotle mentions in his instruction on Poetics. As for Oedipus—wow, oh wow, oh wow! Talk about sins of the father. Other than that horrific display of road rage, Oedipus seemed like a decent-enough fellow. He tried so hard to avoid that curse and it found him anyway.

Jessi

Yeah, Laius, didn’t really feel the brunt of the curse like his son did.

Stephanie Ecklund

I enjoyed this play more than the first due to seeing him go from anger at being accused to realizing the truth and the fear and despair.

Jack Twachtman

I definitely appreciated Oedipus Rex more than the Orestiea. Perhaps it’s because the material is so much more familiar and therefore easier to follow but I also think it has to do with how Sophocles tells the tale. For one, the style is much closer to modern drama with the back and forth dialog and less reliance on the chorus. It’s also such a brilliant use of dramatic irony. Agamemnon was way more subtle and I had to read it multiple times to pick up on Clytemnestra’s ironic speeches, but with Oedipus it’s right there and done so well. Oedipus is also so much more sympathetic in that he does not shirk his responsibilities and his guilt. He doesn’t attempt to justify or defend himself the way Agamemnon did to Achilles in the Iliad when he blames Zeus for his faults. He accepts it and punishes himself as he said he would. It’s also just a really great detective story/mystery!

Greg

Yes, I have the same impressions, Jack. I don’t know if I appreciate Oedipus more, because I do appreciate those subtleties of the Oresteia, but I agree Sophocles has a style that is closer to modern.

Natalya

“ If you want one thing too much it’s likely to be a disappointment.” Gus McCrae ch.45

Jane

Hooray to Warwick! My Alma mater , thank you for this. It looks like a real treat.