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Would Anna fit a textbook Freudian case of narcissism? 

What about Vronsky?

Here are the two books I was working from:

And here's Freud:

We love one or other of the following:
1) Narcissistic  type:
a) what we ourselves are,
b) what we ourselves were,
c) what we would like to become,
d) a person who was once part of our own self.
2) Imitative type:
a) the woman who feeds us,
b) the man who protects us,
and the many surrogates who take their place.


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Anonymous

I am not sure if I knew subconsciously what Anna would do, but it never came to my mind as a listened to this book first time through. I didn’t feel surprised. What I did pick up on during her breakdown was her narcissism. Her charming ways with Levin exposed her for me. I wonder if Tolstoy hadn’t told us she intended to lure him if it would have been overlooked thinking she was simply an exquisite person. Creating chaos and presenting herself as a perfect victim, is a talent narcissists do very well. And they can’t help themselves. All the people closest to her would be focused on fixing the chaos she cannot help herself but to create. She also is unaware. People trying to help her would not figure it out because these helpers were only focused on how to help. Once it is over though they will gradually realize what really happened. Traumatic.

Anonymous

I am squeezing in a quick listen of Anna Karenina after finishing War and Peace. Wish I would have read it with you last year. I am reading and journaling What is Art? (Finished) Soon to start Confessions or the short story. Not posting much. Trying to get used to this. Really enjoying.

Sarah

I have just finished Anna Karenina and found it to be a wonderful book which took me on quite a journey. I started the book expecting to empathise with Anna but that turned out to be not the case at all. I found her love for her son to be unnaturally intense which left me feeling it was actually rather shallow. She did after all claim she struggled to leave him and then upped and left him. Her seductive behaviour towards Levin to me seemed like the act of a very insecure woman who needed validation in the form of male attention. The surprise to me was my growing empathy towards Vronsky particularly towards the end. Whereas I had initially viewed him to be superficial and a bit of a ladies' man who enjoyed the chase but quickly moved on, as in his treatment of Kitty I watched him grow and become totally committed to a woman he genuinely loved and as I witnessed that happen I grew to rather like him. But, I think understandably, he was utterly exasperated by her decline into neuroticism and narcissism and he had no clue what to do or say for the best. Anna's suicide and the image of her bloodied and mangled body left him devastated and haunted so much so that he volunteered for a war he would probably be killed in. Suicide by combat. So she not only killed herself but most likely also him.