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Shakespeare's ninth sonnet may tell us more about the writer's concerns, and our concerns, than those of the Fair Youth. 

Today we're discussing the fear of mortality, hypothetical widows, Shakespeare's world language, and whether Shakespeare is truly trying to persuade this young man to settle down. 

Video Timestamps:

  • 0:00 is the procreation sequence persuasive?
  • 1:45 'Is it for fear to wet a widow's eye...?'
  • 3:00 appreciating sonnet nine together 
  • 4:00 wrangling with loss, grief, and pain
  • 4:57 speaking to another as though they are us
  • 6:00 Shakespeare on life after death 
  • 6:40 the soul of the observer
  • 8:00 meditating on mortality and mourning
  • 10:50 Shakespeare's world language 
  • 11:50 lacking one who will lack us 
  • 12:50 over-alliteration & theatricality 
  • 14:00 Shakespeare's sonnets & the human condition
  • 15:40 the preoccupation with waste 
  • 17:20 your thoughts on sonnet nine 

Sonnet IX

Is it for fear to wet a widow's eye,
That thou consum'st thy self in single life?
Ah! if thou issueless shalt hap to die,
The world will wail thee like a makeless wife;
The world will be thy widow and still weep
That thou no form of thee hast left behind,
When every private widow well may keep
By children's eyes, her husband's shape in mind:
Look what an unthrift in the world doth spend
Shifts but his place, for still the world enjoys it;
But beauty's waste hath in the world an end,
And kept unused the user so destroys it.
No love toward others in that bosom sits
That on himself such murd'rous shame commits.

Shakespeare's Sonnets Project

Questions for you:

1) What kind of man do you think Shakespeare was?

2) Do you find this to be a persuasive sonnet? Where would it rank among the sonnets you've enjoyed so far?

Happy sonneteering!

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0:00 is the procreation sequence persuasive? 1:45 'Is it for fear to wet a widow's eye...?' 3:00 appreciating sonnet nine together 4:00 wrangling with loss, grief, and pain 4:57 speaking to another as though they are us 6:00 Shakespeare on life after death 6:40 the soul of the observer 8:00 meditating on mortality and mourning 10:50 Shakespeare's world language 11:50 lacking one who will lack us 12:50 over-alliteration & theatricality 14:00 Shakespeare's sonnets & the human condition 15:40 the preoccupation with waste 17:20 your thoughts on sonnet nine

Comments

Ellen M

Great chat Ben, thanks. I probably would have skimmed this one pretty quickly without your insight. I like the juxtaposition of starting the sonnet with the tender fear of a wet widows eye, then it ends with the murderous shame of the boy. Shakespeare manages to mix such conflicting emotions. I often wonder if we simply like to imagine seeing so much of the man in his words because we know so little about him. But lines like those convince me that we aren’t imagining it, he’s there for us to see in all his complicated feelings and thoughts, and his ability to capture these human feelings we all share

Vicky

Thanks Ben I just can’t get into the sonnets particularly the procreation ones 🤣 but - I read Scylla last night therefore this was perfect timing to be thinking about Shakespeare and widows - was glad we had read Hamlet and sonnets etc !

hardcoreliterature

Fantastic point about Shakespeare's juxtaposition, Ellen. Really nice - I often like to mark the octave and sestet in my copies, or underline the word marking the volta and note the extraordinary change that takes place from the beginning to the end of the sonnet. And really great point about seeing ourselves there because we seem to have so little of the man himself. I've often thought the same thing. Genius will often leave us wondering the extent to which the work was deliberately designed!

hardcoreliterature

My personal favourite sonnets are definitely outside of the procreation sequence. Sonnet 121 is one I have to heart now, and really demonstrates what Shakespeare can do with the form. And nice one on making it through Scylla and Charybdis. I can't wait to discuss this! Our next three chapter deep dives are on their way out as we speak :)