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[YT Edit] Munich (2005) (Patreon)

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2024-07-24 00:09:07
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Hey guys! Here is the YT edit for Munich, which will premiere today!

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Dennis Doolittle

My camera made it to the '72 oympics but I wasn't there. I was stationed in Germany and a friend borrowed it to take with him. It came back to me in one piece.

Jake R

Cassie. The 1972 Munich Olympics changed the entire world. It turned people against violence and terrorism and a major shake-up in tactical rescue units in military and police around the world. At the time Germany had a first class hostage rescue team in the German armed forces but because of German law after WW2 the "Military" was not allowed to deploy on German soil to intervene in the hostage crisis because none of the hostages were German citizens (The only exception to the rule)....The police had to handle it and they failed horribly against terrorists armed with military training and weapons. It was a Black day for Germany and the hostages....shame.

austin riehl

As a gun nerd the Munich Olympics mark a point in firearms history where tactics and guns changed. Other notable events are the North Hollywood shootout and the Miami Dade shootout.

LittleGalaxyBoy
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Just two years before this we also saw the introduction of rubber bullets created by the British Ministry of Defence. Crazy how so many things were invented, introduced to counter conflicts, including Riots. And of course the Iranian Embassy siege (1980) just 8 years later that saw the first public appearance of the SAS.

Stephen Malloy

Cassie, here are two names for you to look up: Mark Spitz and Olga Korbut. You will find their stories much more in keeping with the Olympic spirit.

Tim C

I would of been really young don't remember hearing about this either.Funny bit of a History buff and have a clear view of the 80s etc but .Do remember the current events that made the paper late 70s.

Stan the Man

This movie is fantastic. The cinematography, the pacing, the suspense. It feels like a 1970s political thriller with the zoom lenses. Sometimes it feels so simple minded but yet so right to say “can’t we all just get along?”. There’s a sensation astronauts have reported when they are up in space & looking back at the earth. This sense of oneness. An Almost Euphoric sense of oneness. From space there are no border lines. No country names. Our lives on this planet are so short. It’s nothing. 70 years? Maybe? If you are lucky. And yet we spend it fighting and killing and hurting. I don’t know what the answer is when two people think the same land belongs to them. Each has suffered so much throughout history. We are all just human beings. We draw lines on a map and say we are American or Canadian and so much of who we are comes to be defined by that. Look at Mexico and America. Millions of people just wanting a better life for their children. But a line says they can’t. Being born where you are is a lottery. Some win, some lose. But because we’ve drawn these lines and put up these “walls” anyone born outside of those lines or walls is looked at differently. But we are all born on this same blue planet. Tribalism will be the ruin of the planet. There’s so much anger and tension from it. But pride too. Who do you vote for? What sports team do u root for? What sci fi fandom do you belong to? What country? What state? What province? What city? What neighbourhood? What school? So I’ll just say it. Can’t we all just…get along?

Lamar Smith

So, you asked why the Mossad handler wouldn’t have dinner with Avner in Brooklyn. A proper Jew can’t knowingly break bread with an assassin. That Avner only became an assassin at the behest of his government doesn’t seem to matter. Spielberg did an amazing job of showing how murky and confusing the world of international espionage is. You never have the whole picture. At best you know what the Israeli operatives knew: such and such person is in this or that city or hotel. You receive this information from decidedly murky sources with their own agendas. Maybe they want the person you’re after dead, maybe they want you dead or maybe they just care about the money.

Stan the Man

He ate with the team earlier though.

Stranger2Reality

Decades ago the brilliant Carl Sagan convinced NASA to turn the Voyager probe towards Earth and to take a photo from the far reaches of the galaxy. It showed up as just a small speck, but Sagan found the photo to be profound and wrote a piece to accompany that image. You can see the photo and hear his narration here: https://youtu.be/FRcxjprhTGM Or just search YouTube for "pale blue dot". It really perfectly encapsulates what you are talking about.

Stranger2Reality

This sells a couple others of his very short, in particular Lincoln, Bridge of Spies and The Fablemans. Maybe you saw those and didn't care for them, but I've had many conversations with people who say Spielberg hasn't made anything good in a long time who simply haven't seen most of his more recent films. I know Cassie already saw Lincoln, but I think she'd really love Bridge of Spies, as it's another depiction of a true historical event.

Neill Shaughness

I didn't say his later movies were all bad. I just said I didn't think they were truly great.

K, Zachary

There is alot of controversy surrounding Rudolph Hess' death in the late 80's along with the persecution of Klaus Barbie who was completely sadistic in his torture of Jews during World War II you can find his trial online but here is the shortest video I could find on him: Which America his from Israel and France https://youtu.be/NR9Souek7ig?si=dlcYdhD8EvOMUS4D

Uncle Phoenix

So would “Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me” be eligible for Scary but not too Scary October??

Lamar Smith

Some thoughts on the ‘Munich Massacre’: The film showed actual footage of veteran sports commentator Jim McKay anchoring the coverage of the event. The terrorists were able to follow the moves of the German police because no one thought to stop or limit filming and the media used, quite obviously, the sports reporters already there to cover the event. Jim McKay was his usual reserved professional self but I’ve seen footage of moves the German security were attempting to make and, honestly, you can totally tell the voice over is coming from a ‘sports’ reporter: “They’re moving up the left side! They’re into the courtyard….. they’re moving together as a team!….Theyre moving forward looking for the big play!” That’s only a SLIGHT exaggeration. When the nation of Israel was first founded the first Prime Minister position was offered to a very elderly Albert Einstein. He, in my opinion, very wisely and politely turned them down. Munich was 30-odd years later but I have a very hard time picturing the pacifist scientist being put in the position of the ‘Iron Lady of Israel,’ PM Golda Meir, who authorized Operation Thunderbolt, the counter-assassination of Black September with the fateful words, “Send forth the boys!” Not that the optics of dead Jews in Germany was bad enough but there really were no winners there. This was the first Olympics held in Germany post-WWII. This was Germany’s chance to show their new face to the world, to say “The bad old days are gone! This is the new, modern, peaceful Germany, ready to resume its place among the nations of the world. I can imagine any number of sports, cultural and political directors being awoken in the middle of the night, being told, “There’s been an attack on athletes staying in the Olympic village,” and responding, at least mentally, with, “Don’t be the Jews! Don’t be the Jews! Don’t be the Jews!” “It’s the Jews.” “DAMMIT!” As if that weren’t bad enough, Germany, like EVERY country gives their police older, surplus military equipment. So the world was treated to the image of square-jawed police in the infamous Wehrmacht WWII-style helmets. I understand the loss of life was horrific but the optics could not have been more contrary to the intent of the ‘Serene Olympics.’

Uncle Phoenix

So, umm…I just watched Awkward Ashleigh’s reaction to it; and it might be too scary.

Chris Thom

First shots fired for October. The time has come.

Lamar Smith

Dearest Cassie, another fantastic terrorist-hostage movie set in the ‘70s is ‘Seven Days in Entebbe.’ Recall the actor from some of the Marvel movies who played ‘Zemo?’ You struggled with his name in one of your reactions. He’s in it amongst many others. It’s the true story of terrorists highjacking a, from memory, French or Italian airliner and forcing it to fly to Uganda’s capital while Idi Amin ruled there. The Israelis launched a raid to get their people back. The only Israeli casualty was the leader of the Israeli Special Forces, Yonatan Netanyahu. His brother, Benjamin ‘Bibi’ Netanyahu is PM of Israel today and, actually, just addressed the US Congress this morning.

Mike Lemon

@Chris - Not even close to the first, there is still a "promised" movie from two years ago that some of us are waiting for and mention occasionally.

Ria Grix

I was in Paris the other day and there were a hell of a lot of military, very well armed military, wandering around the streets. I remember the same here in London back in 2012. I imagine after Munich the security for the Olympics became a much bigger deal.

Chris Thom

That's cool you got to see it. What are the venues like? Is the city packed?

Robin T

I mean depending where you set the bar... I don't think Munich is truly great either. It's very good in a workmanlike sort of way, like Lincoln or Spies. Or the last few Scorsese pictures. The work of a master whose abilities have become self-assured to the point of routine. Which is no shame at this stage of his career. But, for me, Catch Me was the last time he was *excitingly* good.

Arturo

BEFORE the Munich 1972 Summer Olympics 15 crew members and 172 passengers including my parents where in the highjack Lufthansa Flight 649, my parents where coming back from the Sapporo 1972 Winter Olympics when the plane was hijacked by five men armed with guns and explosives. The plain was suppose to go form Tokyo-Hong Kong-Bangkok-Delhi-Athens-Frankfurt, but after departing Delhi the hijackers took control of the plane, they wanted to land in the Arabian desert somewhere in Jordan fortunately the pilot convince them the landing strip was to small so they landed in a tiny airport in Aden Yemen. Women and children where "release" but the men and crew where kept hostages in the plane rig with explosives. The German government paid $5M dollars, at the time the largest ransom ever paid for an aircraft, and the men and crew where release, later the hijackers surrender to the Yemeni authorities but were released without having been charged with any crime. AFTER Munich there was the Lufthansa Flight 615 hijacking in October 1972 where 2 armed men demanded the liberation of the three surviving perpetrators of the Munich massacre, 11 passengers and 7 crew where kept hostage. Authorities decided to comply with the demands of the hijackers, the German government release and escorted the prisoners who where flown to Zagreb Yugoslavia where they join the hijackers on Flight 615 and flew to Tripoli Libya, there the hostages where finally release and the hijackers where given refuge.

Ria Grix

It was a little more busy than usual I think, lots of pedestrianised streets which must have made the traffic all jam up somewhere else. That was last Friday so many of the athletes hadn’t already arrived. I was only there for the day to see an exhibition so didn’t see the venues, but I’ll see one next week when I go back for another day to see a bit of fencing at the Grand Palais which is a magnificent building already, so I’m excited to see what it looks like.

Clay F

Lincoln and Spies are awesome. So is Munich.

Chris Thom

I heard they're doing an event at Versailles. Not sure which. That should be awesome.

Chris Thom

That opening ceremony was really interesting yesterday. Celine really nailed it. Whole thing was pretty surreal...including the pulsing rave mdma trip that was the Eiffel Tower.

Author Travis Adams Irish

This film was the first time I remember learning that beautiful women can be wicked. I didn't learn my lesson though, because I was poisoned by one a few years ago. The last scene where he's making love to his wife, and can't enjoy himself because he's world weary, hits home strongly. The winter of 2021 put me in that headspace, and I'm sure a lot of people felt that way. But, certainly the theme of this film is that an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. I remember when I was chronically ill for 7 years in my late twenties: it changes how you see the world - how the world sees you. Wow, you need some happy movies, you're reminding me of some dark times. Haha. It's good to reflect, but more happy movies for a while please.