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Val Kilmer Poll (Patreon)

Published:
2025-04-08 14:41:38
Imported:
2026-06

Poll

Val Kilmer Poll

  • Willow (1988) 321
  • The Saint (1997) 139
  • Real Genius (2006) 305
  • The Doors (2001) 151
  • Thunderheart (1997) 43
  • Spartan (2004) 28
  • At First Sight (1999) 14
  • Top Secret (1984) 173
  • 2025-04-08
  • —2025-04-12
  • 1174 votes
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Content

Rewriting what I wrote in my update post about Val Kilmer:

I was so sad to hear about Val Kilmers passing yesterday. I hope he is no longer in pain and his family has peace. I first met him in Topgun as Iceman, fell in love with him as Doc Holladay in Tombstone, feared him properly in Heat, wanted to marry him in The Ghost and the Darkness and sealed my adoration for him in Kiss Kiss Bang. Gay Perry forever! What am I missing from his filmography? Rip Doc ❤️❤️❤️

Here are a list of some of his other great movies you all suggested.

Ps-I did not put Batman on the poll because I will be watching that at some point in order with the other batmans!

Comments

Rudy Hernandez

Real Genius & The Doors. Maybe you can watch two. 😎

Choof

Rooting hard for Real Genius

Arthur Bach

Real Genius came out in 1985

Devon Caitlin

Oh man, you're gonna have to end up watching all of these Cassie. You will absolutely love At First Sight, that's definitely a Cass and Carly viewing for sure!

Jay Jay Reyes

Real Genius will be the eventual winner but the Saint shows his versatility. All great movies.

JPDotCom23

Ugh, really hoping for ‘Thunderheart’ but there’s some great titles here, I fear some vote splitting

deskmerc

Yes, Real Genius@

Shehab Dawoud

Just watched The Saint because Bill Simmons did it on The Rewatchables podcast. So I’m going with The Doors. I think that’s his best performance ever. He became Jim Morrison.

Michael King

Close call for me between The Saint and Real Genius

Walter Crockett

Cassie, I believe I sent you a DVD copy of Too Secret 👍

Michael

Theres better choices but Top Secret is my favorite

Justin S.

Several great films here. I voted The Doors. One underrated film not here is the one Val did with his ex-wife, Kill Me Again (1989). It's pretty good and worth a watch.

Henry Graham

"In the city always a reflection, in the woods always a sound." "What about the desert?" "You don't wanna go in the desert." I doubt it will ever come close to winning a poll, but Spartan is SO GOOD!

Todzilla

I voted Willow because we need more George Lucas!

Joe J

Too many good films here will just split the votes. Hope Cassie watches the top 3.

Geoman

The Doors 1991 I was in high school here in Scotland and this movie introduced an entire new generation to Jim Morrison and the Doors..Val was brilliant in his portrayal of Morrison.👏

Patrick

'Wonderland' (2003)

BEV

It's The Saint for me every time. The range of characters and disguises that Val pulls off in one movie is brilliant. Plus it's a great story anyway.

Brent Petty

Spartan is a really good film. David Mamet script.

bgb1975 (Brian)

I was just looking through his filmography. I've heard that "Kill the Irishman" (2011) is a really good one. I haven't seen it yet, and I'm not sure how big Val Kilmer's part was. That one is on my to see list.

Tinker

The Saint!! Please :)

Stranger2Reality

I'm excited for Cassie to watch the 2006 remake which doesn't exist 😂

Zane From Canada

I just got my DVD copy of Real Genius in the mail yesterday. 😁 I saw Willow as a kid. Scared me a little bit. I didn't even know Val Kilmer was in it until many years later. The Saint is a fantastic film. Right up Cassie's alley. The Doors. Val Kilmer was Jim Morrison. So much so that members of The Doors couldn't tell the difference between the recordings of Val singing and Jim Morrison singing. Spartan is a great underrated gem of a movie. Conspiracy, kidnapping, power & corruption, and every character just playing the game. David Mamet wrote and directed it so the dialog 11/10.

Stranger2Reality

To be fair, she already watched Howard the Duck, so there's definitely been some George Lucas here 😂

Wes

I think Cassie would like the Saint or Willow the best

Michael Siegel

Several of these are worth your time, but I'm going to make the case for Real Genius. I did a science reaction a while back and was surprised at how well it has held up, unlike some other 80's comedies I won't name. One of the most quotable movies ever with really likable characters. And Val is fantastic in it. I think you'd like it quite a bit.

James M

"The Doors" was released in 1991. I haven't seen any of these except Willow. I've heard a lot of good about his performance as Jim Morrison so I'm leaning that way.

Rose

“The Prince of Egypt” (1998) - you don’t see Val Kilmer but this animated movie from DreamWorks is one of my favorites to watch during Easter. btw … I’m checking out the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibit at the Reagan Library in Simi this month to see the rare display of a Ten Commandments Scroll. Get your tickets - special exhibit for the Ten Commandments Scroll starts April 11th - April 24th.

Shehab Dawoud

The Island of Dr. Moreau could also have made this list as a "it's so bad that it's actually kinda good" option. There is room for those types of movies too.

Justin S.

Definitely agree about all, especially Spartan. It's a very good mystery and suspense thriller. Also, Kill Me Again (1989) is underrated. His ex-wife, Joanne Whalley is in that film.

Patrick Flanagan

Who types these in, three of them have the wrong year listed [shakes fist like the old grump he is]

Zane From Canada

Top Secret! is a top notch parody. 👌 Serious actors playing it serious while the crazy and absurd events are happening around them. Like Airplane!, Hot Shots, The Naked Gun, National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon, Jane Austen's Mafia. 😁

Rose

Initial YT release of “Top Gun” was how I discovered PiB. Can’t believe Iceman is gone RIP P.S. - if you’re ever in Oceanside, CA - must-see is The Top Gun House (aka historic Graves House). It was used for filming Charlie’s oceanfront home. Now called HIGH-PIE - it’s been turned into a retro pie restaurant with Top Gun memorabilia and replica Kawasaki Ninja. From The Top Gun House, it’s a 3 min drive to the charming California Surf Museum. As a big fan of the 1959 classic “Gidget” I always stop by The California Surf Museum. It’s the ultimate to-do list while in Oceanside. You can also see some Navy SEAL BUD/s training, too, because their primary training ground in Coronado has become toxic due to Mexico’s sewage dumping into the Tijuana River that has been flowing into SoCal.

Dan M

There was no question in my mind which movie I was voting for when I saw this poll, even before I opened it up. Real Genius is an hysterical 80s comedy, and Val Kilmer just eats up every second he’s on the screen. You’ve seen him in some great dramatic and action roles. It’s time to see his comedic genius…in Real Genius.

Zane From Canada

I've heard of that one. Never seen it. It looks like an erotic thriller from the late 80's early 90's like Unlawful Entry or Shattered or Consenting Adults. I'll definitely be checking it out.

zynjams

the Doors and Willow. Val Kilmer had great range as an actor.

Brodie Vickers

Have recently heard that if you want to watch something that's fun which commemorates the life of Val Kilmer, Top Secret is it. Shame that Batman Forever isn't on here, but I'm happy to get it later on "OH NO!! ITS BOILING ACID!" 😂

Clay F

+1 for The Doors (1991)

Richard Maurer

I voted for Top Secret! first but I switched to Real Genius because I can already see how this is going. We need to rally around RG to keep Willow from winning.

Joe J

Cassie, please correct the release dates on the films.

Richard Maurer

Why are we watching Lucas’s worst movies?

Richard Maurer

Happy Hanukkah will agree with you, not sure if anyone else will.

Matt Rose

REAL GENIUS all the way.

Kent

Maybe she can do a winner and runner-up double feature :)

Brian Wood

Always loved The Saint. Great action/thriller.

K

I feel like At First Sight is a film Cassie would like. It even has Kelly McGillis (Charlie from Top Gun among other roles) in it

Mario C

Nice poll. Real Genius or The Saint would be the ones best enjoyed, but Real Genius for being one of the best 80’s movies (1985). Lot of people critized the Doors but was a big fan if their music and Val Kilmer was Jim Morrison!

Richard Maurer

Cassie you could watch Batman Returns (if you must) but please don’t subject yourself (and us) to the awful Joel Schumacher Batman movies. They are the epitome of bad money-grab sequels.

Andrew Heller

Ive been begging for willow since the lord of the rings reactions

Richard Maurer

Only if Real Genius comes in second, if Willow comes in second, don’t bother.

Joe J

Willow is a fever dream for some...but a nightmare to others, lol.

Jay Davis

Think y'all know what I voted. It's a moral imperative. (Though I struggled NOT to vote for Spartan... the dialogue. *chef's kiss*)

Clay F

I voted Real Genius (1985). I think Cassie would like Thunderheart (1992) the best.

Chris B.

Impossible poll for me, really can’t go wrong with ANY of Val’s movies here. I voted The Saint because I wish that movie got more love, but they’re all winners here.

R F.

So many good choices. But for now, I'm voting for "Real Genius" cause I'd like to laugh in his memory. "Top Secret" being my close second for absolute silliness.

Blake Evans

Have to go with The Saint on this one just to show off Val Kilmer's extended range in a single film. But At First Sight is one that has really stuck with me after all these years.

Bill Maurer

"Wonderland" - good movie, great cast. Very brutal and hard to watch. But Kilmer is great in it ... as always

thansen

Definitely Top Secret.

Richard Maurer

It’s George Lucas’s attempt to make LotR without buying the rights. In that context, one of a kind

Joe J

What other Batman films is Cassie referring to? She's not going back to the Burton films. She's seen the Nolan films and the newer Batman film with Patterson. Has she seen Batman vs. Superman?

mikethemotormouth

The Doors has my vote until Willow needs my help to stay in 1st

Shehab Dawoud

Well, I like being in the minority anyway.

Story Archer

The Doors is probably the best movie he ever did, certainly his best acting job in my opinion... Willow probably has the greatest cache of nostalgia, though I don't feel as if it has aged particularly well. I'm a little saddened not to see one of my favorites - The Real McCoy, with Kim Basinger - but admittedly, that one is a bit obscure.

Richard Maurer

^ This sentence is inexplicable to me.

djKENTO

Not enough people have seen Spartan to know it’s one of his 3 best performances.

justin swan

Shame Thunderheart is doing so bad ... Not surprised Willow is doing so good though ... Im sure it has such a low vote count due to no one having seen it before ... such a good movie

Bill W

I'm thinking all that's left is Batman Forever (Kilmer) and Batman & Robin (Clooney).

Ian Hunter (NewbieInOttawa)

RIP Val, he always an entertaining actor to watch. Had to look up Thunderheart, that was 1992; I can recall seeing it, inspired by real events, and produced by De Niro iirc. Pretty certain Real Genius was in the '80s as well? Some good pics/picks on this list for sure. Always liked his performance in Heat too.

Above Average Dave

REAL GENIUS is so quotable, I still use many of them today (even when I am the only one in on the joke). I also thought it showed tremendous range and comic timing for a young Val Kimer. He carries the movie and it announces him as a star.

Mike Lemon

At First Sight made the poll?! It's a miracle! It is the one I'm voting for and it is the most "Cassie (and Carly) movie" on the list, but it doesn't stand a chance.

Lucien

The Saint is way under rated. Super fun movie that's really a romantic film at heart. The great thing about Willow is the dynamic between Madmartigan and Sorsha. If it wasn't for that I don't think Willow would be so fondly remembered.

Clay F

Currently tied for last place.

Above Average Dave

I am one of the people who went through exactly the same thought process on this. One day I hope to be two of them,

Clay F

Thunderheart is my No. 1 choice but doesn't stand a chance, so I voted Real Genius.

Clay F

Yep, Thunderheart is the best movie. And she would like the most. I knew that Willow would do strong -- but I'm not a fan.

Michael O'Connor

Willow!!!!! Madmartigan is doc holiday crossed with Aragorn knee deep in Hobbits. Greatest film swordsman ever and that includes the one from The Princesses Bride. A swashbuckling good time and a must watch for all Val Kilmer fans! Hilarious to boot! George Lucas written and Ron Howard directed!!!! Need I say more?!!

Richard Maurer

I’ve come to expect it myself. But sometimes the majority is right and agrees with me ;-)

Clay F

Yep, the only movie I walked out of the theater before the movie ended. One of a kind.

Above Average Dave

WILLOW had so much opportunity and did an amazingly incomprehensible job of letting every single bit of it slip through its metaphorical fingers. Lucas hubris that would not be matched until the horror that was, is and always will be Jar Jar Binks.

Clay F

My personal ranking (starting with the best) of the poll choices: 1. Thunderheart (1992) 2. The Doors (1991) 3. Real Genius (1985) 4. Top Secret! (1984) 5. Spartan (2004) 6. The Saint (1997) 7. Willow (1988) 8. At First Sight (1999)

Lastboyscout73

Real Genius came out in 1985...not 2006, great movie though

Mark Vaderr

Ugh! That movie is awful.

Mark Vaderr

Still waiting for American Graffiti.

Mark Vaderr

I forgot about that movie. Which is probably a good thing. 😁

Mark Vaderr

Could be worse. She could subject us to the Twilight series. I agree with you though, the Schumacher Batman movies are bad, and I actually enjoyed them at first. Then when I re-watched them.....what was I thinking? Although I did think that Val Kilmer was pretty good as Batman.

Mark Vaderr

Cassie has not ruled out watching Batman Returns.

Miles E Coburn

With "Willow" it's also the movie where Val Kilmer met his wife-to-be, Joanne Whalley (it was her first Hollywood movie). So the chemistry was real. I think "The Saint" didn't make the mark they were hoping because so many people thought it would be like the TV series (1962-1969) starring Roger Moore.

Just Plain Bob

I have it on good authority that Val Kilmer, moments before he passed away, said “Please God, round up every copy of ‘Willow’ and destroy it so no one ever has to watch it again.”

Big Lazy Dragon

Interesting fact: Val Kilmer & co-star Joanne Whalley started dating while filming the movie 'Willow' & married that same year. They had 2 kids together, but would divorce in 1996.

David Freese

I do believe she's going to try Batman Returns and Batman And Robin one because everyone keeps saying its better than Batman 89 and B&R because of Val

Big Lazy Dragon

I was torn between 'Willow' & 'Real Genius' because I loved both movies. Went with 'Willow' because it's the first movie I ever saw him in.

Ted Whalen

I was hoping for The Doors to be the winner (oh well). This made me wonder if Cassie has done a Music Biopics (and/or music movie) poll? I think there are a lot of good options (The Doors, Walk the Line, Ray, The Commitments, Purple Rain) that fall into this category.

Vlad D

It was a toss up between Real Genius and Top Secret for me. But I think Real Genius edges out. You should watch Top Secret though. It's like Airplane comedy. How about reacting to the top three

Ike

Agree. Both of those would be my pick because I prefer to remember him smiling. “Real Genius” was my introduction to Kilmer (before he was “Iceman”).

Michael O'Connor

The doors was cool because Val learned to sing like 50 Doors songs and the actual members of the doors couldn't tell the difference when Val was singing. What a compliment!

Patrick Switzer

I voted for Real Genius but I did see Willow

OddThomas

I hope 'at some point' means this weekend, lol

Ike

“REAL GENIUS” it is! Thankfully, and somewhat sadly, I am pleased that “Batman Forever” isn’t on this list. He was good in Batman Forever, but everyone else in that movie ruined it. P.S. The title of worst Batman goes to George Clooney.

D. T. Nelson

Well... It's Bob Dolman written. George came up with the story, but Bob Dolman wrote the script. I don't think the movie would have been as good if Lucas had written the script. He is a great producer (and thankfully produced Willow), but he's not so good at directing, and pretty bad at writing (especially dialog and with the habit of always telling rather than showing).

Walter

I had to go with Top Secret. I’m not saying it’s his best, but it is an overlooked film and one of my favorite spoof/slapstick comedy. I see Willow is pulling in the votes, which makes me sad. I liked it as a kid, but rewatching it as an adult was painful. Spartan is another underrated film. And who doesn’t like Real Genius? Nobody I want to know.

Canadianant

Wow I'm shocked at how poorly the doors is doing especially with vals exceptional performance as Jim Morrison as well as Cassie having just watched Oliver Stone's JFK and here's another Oliver Stone movie. Also no votes for thunder heart which is not the most well-known Val Kilmer movie but I always thought it was pretty good? I also thought there might be more love for the saint as it to me that's the definition of a popcorn film. To be fair literally Cassie could watch any of these movies on here and they're all pretty good valve was pretty great in almost everything he was in.

Walter

Fantastic movie

Stephen Dias

He had many good movies; it’s really hard to pick just one. His performance in “The Doors” is great, especially considering he did his own singing. Everyone should check it out. It’s, unfortunately, not a feel-good story.

Melanie

Oooo- I love Thunderheart!!!

Farbod

Can’t go wrong with any of these. I voted for Willow. The Saint is also extremely underrated. I think you’d love it.

Chris B

Torn between Willow and Real Genius

Jens Kristensen

"Willow" by far, but "The Doors" is really worth watching because of Val's performance...

Larry Darrell

They already did that with the Willow Disney series.

Philip Alan

The Island Of Dr Moreau! Duh!

Simmeland

While the movie isn't necessarily that good, his performance in The Doors(1991 not 2001) is one of his best, and therefore a must But at some point i think you should watch all of these.

Dan M

I think Real Genius is a better tribute to Val for this particular poll. He’s definitely got more screen time, and he steals every scene that he’s in.

2-Can

I think you kind of ‘owe’ the man more than one movie in memoriam b/c, somewhat surprisingly I now realize, he played a LOT of truly distinctive characters. Just sayin’. I think Top Secret and The Saint show a guy who really enjoys his work.

Dan M

If Real Genius wasn’t on this list, I would have voted for Top Secret. It’s just pure 80s gold, and Val Kilmer’s performance is hysterical and, well…genius!

Dan M

I can go for a Val Kilmer themed week.

Dan M

Nice list of music bio-pics. I think Cassie has seen Walk the Line. I’d also like to submit Jersey Boys, The Temptations, and La Bamba to that list of music bio-pics.

Dan M

Pretty please with popcorn on top!

Clay F

In Willow, Val Kilmer is prominent but not a lead character.

Dan M

I suggested At First Sight on the last live Mike. It’s a fantastic movie, but I didn’t think it would do well in a poll. So now I’m hoping maybe Cassie will pick it as one of her Popcorn Picks of the Month.

Dan M

The scene where the students are studying for exams still brings me to tears.

Clay F

I think she would like Thunderheart the best.

Brian McGovern

How can Top Secret be doing so poorly?

Dan M

Same. Watching Real Genius was a weekly ritual for me and my buddies in college.

shaneth138

You should check out his documentary called Val. It’s amazing!

Michael O'Connor

I agree with all that you said about George Lucas. The Star Wars original trilogy magic was George Lucas, Marsha Lucas and Gary Kurtz. That is why from my perspective the other Star Wars attempts never reached the same high bar as TOT. However, having George Lucas on board comes in very handy when you're doing special effects. ; )

Clay F

Yep, Willow = painful. Avoid.

Kris

THE SAINT needs some more love in this poll.

Labcurmudgeon79

Real Genius is from the 80s not 2006. Make sure you have right one if it wins.

Clay F

Willow = "For easy-to-please five-year-olds of all ages."

Art of Free Speech

I usually have very little problem choosing in these polls, but there are just so many good choices here. I wasn't thrilled with Willow and Willow was hardly a standout performance by Kilmer, but Real Genius, The Saint, The Doors, and Top Secret are all solid choices. I chose The Doors simply because I think it's Kilmer's best work.

Daniel Allen

Spartan is a super underrated film and one of Val Kilmer's last truly great roles. And, although not in the same league as Spartan, Red Planet should be included in this poll because it's underrated too and is just a fun sci-fi movie that I have a lot of fondness for.

Wes

I love that movie. Hopefully she eventually watches it but it’s such an under the radar movie I don’t think she’ll get to it in a long while.

Richard Maurer

Howard the Duck begs to differ. Nothing matches that monstrosity.

John

He was impressive in Top Secret, considering it was his first movie. That and Real Genius are just pure fun.

Michael G

If you have not yet cast your vote, and are looking to be swayed, in the fight of the two leaders, might i suggest.... Real Genius. It is a Val Kilmer lead movie. Willow, he is only a supporting role. I get the childhood nostalgia for Willow, but as a full highlight of him as an actor then I encourage you to cast your vote for Real Genius. A Comedy, and Val getting to play around and have some fun.

John

The other members of the Doors were impressed with him; they said they couldn't tell any difference between his voice and Morissons.

John

He was ok, but the story in it needed more work I thought.

Richard Maurer

Val Kilmer and George Clooney weren’t the problem with those movies. Schumacher and the writers were.

Evil Darth Carl

The Doors should be watched if only for Kilmer’s performance and portrayal of frontman Jim Morrison. So accurate was the performance even the band stated they could hear little difference in the songs performed (Kilmer did all his own vocals-no dubs) and Kilmer was so precise in mimicking Morrison’s mannerisms that a former manager (whose name escapes me at the moment) said it was almost eerie. Plus The Doors is probably the strongest movie on the list in other values; production etc…though I will say Willow and Real Genius hold a certain nostalgia and are more fun.

YodatheHobbit

Honestly, I've never heard of it until his death and suddenly everyone's recommending it. I don't even remember it being mentioned in Val.

Richard Maurer

I’d vote for it if it still had a chance of winning, but it doesn’t.

Brian McGovern

If you like Airplane, Hot Shots, Naked Gun, do yourself a favour. Same guys.

Richard Maurer

I agree, it doesn’t stand a chance.

Richard Maurer

“George came up with the story”? Did he really? I think JRR Tolkien might have had a bit of a influence on Lucas’s “story”

Richard Maurer

I saw Willow too, which is why I didn’t vote for it.

Keven Powell

Wonderland was a good movie. He played a person caught up in a grisly murder. Based on a true story.

Scott

I certainly hope Top Secret gets more votes...I find that movie even funnier than Airplane!

Richard Maurer

The nostalgia goggles for Willow have inch thick perpetually foggy lens.

Bill W

My bad, I thought she already did Returns. First time I've ever heard of Returns being considered better than '89.

Jason Henderson

This is so hard to keep seeing over and over, Such a brilliant actor, such a beautiful person. Cassie I am grateful and appreciative for this poll. If you go on tik tok there is a few montages of a interview he did , his last instagram post and his last public appearance before his passing.. If you want I could send them to your tik tok if you want. They are very powerful and meaningful. We have so many great movie memories to share and cherish and that makes it more bearable. Thank you for the platform. 🍿🙏🏻 My apologies, Cassie they are their to see if you want. Was just emotional Just wanting to share with others!

Bill W

I'd be happy to see Thunderheart, Spartan and The Doors...pretty much all but the 3 leading the poll.

Richard Maurer

‘Kids, I looked for LotR at the Dollar Store but all they had was Willow’.

David

No idea how you could vote willow over the doors.

Jasbro

There should be an all of the above selection, but i have to go with my personal classic movie of his Willow, i believe that is the only fantasy based movie hes been in as well.

2-Can

Haven’t read the other posts, but FYI - it’s Doc “Holiday” (who doesn’t love a holiday?). There was a ball player named Roy Halladay, his nickname was Doc.

Allen W. McDonnell

Wow, I can't believe Thunderheart is getting suh little respect!

John Burns

Val performed 50 songs for The Doors, members of the Doors came by and couldn’t tell if it was Jim or not who was singing.

Michael Enos

Just about how I predicted it.. Willow and Real Genius leading the pack. Not mad about it. :)

jdj830

To me it seems that The Doors is the obvious choice in terms of paying tribute to Kilmer’s talent. It’s powerful and not like anything else he ever did (or anything Cassie has seen on the channel) and we know from her reaction to JFK that Cassie appreciates Oliver Stone’s filmmaking. Real Genius has not aged well and she’s already seen many examples of that kind of 80s comedy. Willow is only meaningful to a very specific age group and demographic - the same one that forced Cassie to watch Howard the Duck, and we saw how that turned out. Top Secret is the movie that really put Kilmer on the map and is one of the best films from the Airplane! team, so that would also be a solid choice.

TheSingulatarian

Ugh. "Real Genius" is the most mid movie ever. A total mediocrity. "Williow", it's OK but "Top Secret" is work of genius.

Jon

You're kind of right about Willow, but it's a way better movie than Howard the Duck.

Kris

I've personally always thought this was an underrated film. I love Kilmer's performance in it getting to play multiple "characters". And hands down this movie I think Cassie will enjoy the most on this list.

TheSingulatarian

It is a good movie but very few people saw it.

Johnny

I really want Top Secret to win.

TheSingulatarian

The movie where he was in a contest with Marlon Brando on who could be the biggest douchebag?

aarswft

Lol Willow. What even is his group of people?

TheSingulatarian

George Lucas writing is a bug not a feature.

TheSingulatarian

I am a believer in the Leigh Bracket wrote Star Wars conspiracy theory.

TheSingulatarian

If she wants good quality Star Wars Cassie needs to watch "Andor". 2nd and final season premiering this month. Actually, enhances the original trilogy. An examination on the banality of evil. Best Star Wars since the original trilogy.

Richard Maurer

It’s better than HtD, way better is a slight exaggeration.

WackyJacky

Top secret made me wet my pants

LukeG84

I can only assume that Cassie has already seen all of his good movies.

TheSingulatarian

If she watches "Great Balls of Fire" and "Ray" can then watch "Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story" which is a top contender for the funniest movie ever made.

Rick Rodriguez

No way, man. Real Genius is is charm city.

Steve Mercier

Real Genius and Top Secret are two of my all-time favorite 80's comedies, and despite the terrible special effects--yeah, that's right, I said it--I have a soft spot for Willow. But think I have to go with Real Genius here.

David Collins

Willow is the first movie I remember seeing Val Kilmer in and he was fantastic. It will be a terrible shame if it doesn't win this poll.

Rick Rodriguez

Went Thunderheart to show love. But Real Genius, Doors, or Top Secret winning would be great. Willow is a great showcase for Val's dashing/heroic performance abilities.

Jason Mangen

Michael Beihn was asked how he liked acting with Val Kilmer. Michael says" Never worked with ValKilmer but I have worked with Doc Holliday."

Just Plain Bob

If my folks came home with “Willow” instead of “LotR”, I think I’d have to wait until bedtime and go full Menendez brothers on them.

TheSingulatarian

To each their own. I will agree this is in fact a movie. Competently filmed. The jokes fall flat.

Paul Stelter

Normally this would be a tough choice, but I'm picking REAL GENIUS because TOP SECRET! is so AIRPLANE-y it's likely to be a monthly pick in the future.

Paul Stelter

Worth it just for the ending (no details). Bonus trivia: directed by a woman; not the norm in 1985. She also directed VALLEY GIRL which needs to be on some Nicolas Cage poll.

Javier Hernandez

I'm going with Real Genius because who doesn't love a bunch of nerds sticking it to the Man. As for the rest of the list: 2 At First Sight (Flowers for Algernon, anyone?) 3 Spartan (spy thrillers are fun) 4 The Saint (good thing he looks like Roger Moore) 5 Willow (What if Lord of the Rings and the Conan movies had a baby?) 10 Thunder Heart (1/4 Sioux Native American, 3/4 BS) 11 Top Secret (answers the question, How silly can we get?) 12 The Doors (explosion at the wig factory!)

Jacob King

Voting for Spartan. Very cool, very intense. I get that most people haven’t seen it but it’s an incredible performance.

Clay F

The only 2 that have a chance of winning are Real Genius and Willow. Many voting patrons watched Willow as a kid and thus have that hardcore nostagia going. Some now rewatching Willow decades later realize that Willow has not aged well for them and is a painful watch. But some hang on. My top choice is Thunderheart, but doesn't stand a chance. I voted Real Genius because I prefer Real Genius over Willow. Val Kilmer is prominent but not even a lead character in Willow. Willow = slow pace and generic story. Exaggerated, artificial, empty, and relentlessly predictable. While children may "be enthralled by the spectacles, even they might notice the weak story."

Jacob King

It’s a necessary watch if only so you can then watch the Lost Soul documentary about the making of.

Philip Alan

I have not seen that! I’m probably too scared to watch it. I’ve heard the stories.

Craig Carriere

The Saint and Spartan are tremendous movies of his

Clay F

Very good point.

Tim Weaver

While Willow is a personal favourite, idk if it can be appreciated by those that had the benefit of Peter Jackson's LOTR. It may come across as a rip off. I went Top Secret because laughter is the best medicine plus I figured the Doors would be on a biography pill down the road.

Clay F

My top choice is Thunderheart, but doesn't stand a chance. The only 2 that have a chance of winning are Real Genius and Willow. I voted Real Genius because I prefer Real Genius over Willow. In Willow, Val Kilmer is prominent but not a lead character. Willow = slow pace and generic story. Exaggerated, artificial, empty, and relentlessly predictable. While children may "be enthralled by the spectacles, even they might notice the weak story." Many watched Willow as a kid and thus have that hardcore nostagia going = "This film was a staple of my pre-teen years," or "One of my favorites from when I was a kid." Some now rewatching Willow decades later realize that Willow has not aged well and is a painful watch = "A childhood classic for me. .... On re-watching, some pretty glaring flaws ," or "As a kid it was great but man it's beyond bad as an adult, even annoying."

Mike Lemon

I love that nobody can just like a movie. They always have to be too stupid to understand how bad it is. If only people would listen to their betters, am I right. /s

Clay F

Mike, you have zero credibility. You have made some of the most ridiculous comments the last several months. Here, you said that the worst choice (At First Sight) in last place with 1% is what you voted for and is the most "Cassie (and Carly) movie." If only people would listen to their betters. /s Cassie and Carly would be bored out of their mind with At First Sight.

Tara ✨💫

I hope Cassie watches The Saint even though it's currently in 3rd. I love seeing all the different "things" Val does in this movie. He's very versatile and his leading lady, Elisabeth Shue from The Karate Kid and Adventures in Babysitting. I'm not sure if Real Genuis is Cassie's type of comedy. I've seen Willow once when it first came out , but I don't remember anything but the other actor, Warwick Davis, who played Princess Leia's ewok in Return of the Jedi and in one of the new movies as well as a few characters in Harry Potter. Griphook the bank goblin, Professor Flintwick and /i believe one other professor from the first movie right after Seamus blows up his levatating feather

Stephen Last

I was watching Real Genius for the first time. I recognized a couple of actors aside from Val Kilmer, like William Atherton. One person I know by name but didn't recognize until I looked up the cast was Dean Devlin. He played Milton. He is a famous producer/writer that has collaborated a lot with Rolland Emmerich. Stargate, Independence Day, The Patriot, etc.

Richard Maurer

Lucas is a fan of LotR, and said it was a big inspiration for Star Wars. So anyone who sees Willow as a rip-off of LotR is on to something.

Richard Maurer

Someday, somewhere, some reactor is going to see yet another ‘watch all of them’ comment and say, “why not?” But don’t hold your breath.

Tim Weaver

Bro it obviously borrows themes. It's a Hobbit story at a time where it was believed the best lotr flick was animated. I love the movie..and considering the year it came out the FX are quite good. I'd say Willow was an homage to LOTR. I don't see the star wars comparison at all. Star Wars has more in Common with Kurosawa & Joseph Campbell hero journey personally, but neat that Lucas was inspired by LOTR. Learn something new every day. Ty!

Richard Maurer

Well they’re not Hobbits, definitely not Hobbits, in case the Tolkien estate is watching.

JohnnyUtah

Poor thunderheart. I gotta see if I can even find it on physical media. She should do a Wind River Thunderheart double feature!

Clay F

I rewatched Thunderheart streaming on Amazon Prime last week.

TheSingulatarian

Hey, she still hasn't watched "Radioland Murders".

TheSingulatarian

That movie was made in the alternate universe that I came from where the little busty, blond girl that Jaws falls in love with has braces.

Josie Lawson

The Saint, and At First Sight are two of my absolute favorite movies

Todzilla

Let's not forget "Red Tails" and "THX1138"!

Choof

Oh this is gonna be a tight one. Real Genius was my pib pick a flick choice in February so I sure hope it wins

David Livingston

I really do like "Willow", but my pick here was "Real Genius" - it is a GREAT movie and shouldn't be missed, EVER!! (just saying, LOL) But, though it isn't getting many votes, "The Saint" is good and (in my opinion) underrated and often overlooked. I recommend it as well. I know you may watch it eventually and think fondly of our dear departed Val Kilmer. 🙂🙂🙂🙂

Anthony V Petty

Many folks don’t know about Spartan but it’s one of his best performances. I totally understand The Doors but it’s a good watch.

Chris Retzlaff

I know...Willow....but let's celebrate Val with Real Genius.....it's a real Popcorn in Bed movie...maybe the most.

Chris Retzlaff

I'm going to say......at one point t she will feel right at home as Popcorn in bed....

Chris Retzlaff

Let's all be fair, the look on her face at the climax of Real Genius will go down in infamy at Popcorn in Bed

Chris Retzlaff

Can't wait till you watch Batman Forever.....He was a great Bruce Wayne

Tyler Foster

Proud to be one of the few people making sure the terribly underrated Spartan, which is up there with KKBB in the top three greatest late-career Val performances, is not in dead last

Chris Retzlaff

Real Genius is a corky college movie with a fantastic ending made for popcorn in bed!!! The Doors will be in a biopic poll for sure....

Chris Retzlaff

Let's take it down a notch brother Clay....this isn't about creditbility.....its like our opinions, man

Stormseeker Gaming

That was the fastest poll pick I have ever done. It literally (yes, I am using the word properly) took me less than three seconds to choose and click. Val Kilmer made some great movies, but Real Genius has always been one of my favorite films. It is an 80's classic that really gives you the feel for that decade. Speaking of decade, the poll has the film coming out in 2006. It came out in the summer of 1985. I watched it the first week it was out at the movie theater. I bought the VHS tape when it came out and worn out that tape. Whichever one wins, I will be happy (even Top Secret). I just hope that Cassie and Carly (she would like it) get to react to Real Genius sometime soon.

Doug Fisher

I was about to say we can finally agree on something Clay... "Thunderheart" is a fantastic movie, one of Val's best... but then you said you voted for "Real Genius" due to popularity. Way to stick by your convictions. I am shocked, shocked... well, not that shocked.

Doug Fisher

I voted for "Thunderheart" as it is a great film, with fantastic performances from Val and Graham. Also Cass would love the investigative nature of it. Oh Well.

Doug Fisher

Whether your movie pick wins or not I think it is important to always go with your preferred choice. I think more polls would turn out different if people voted as you and I did. P.S. I voted 'Thunderheart" as well, great movie.

Doug Fisher

Probably his best performance... and that is saying something.

Doug Fisher

That is the downside to polls. "Thunderheart" was my choice also.

Doug Fisher

Welcome to the shyte show of polls. (Not that you needed me to tell you that...)

Doug Fisher

I get where you are coming from but I vote for the movie I want reacted to the most. Whether it comes in first or last doesn't matter to me. I voted "Thunderheart".

Doug Fisher

I have to agree with you on "The Doors" being his best work.

Doug Fisher

Me too! Val and Graham turned in such good performances.

MAV293 (MARK)

I picked "The Doors" but "The Saint" is a grossly underrated film where Val puts in several great acting performances!! If you have seen the movie, you know what I am talking about lol.

Doug Fisher

@Mike What... you're surprised that Clay did not pass up an opportunity to be the self appointed commentary bigwig?! ;)

Doug Fisher

Well Bill, I guess it all depends one what criteria you use to determine "better". The script is tighter but that has more to do with '89 being produced during a writer strike. The love story is better in "Returns". So for Cass (and Carly) "Returns" is the "better" movie.

Bill W

At First Sight is way more Cassie/Carly than Real Genius. (Can't speak for Willow because I've never seen it.)

Clay F

Bill, first let me say, I am not a huge fan of Real Genius but is better than Willow. Second, I would agree that the romance/sight premise of the mediocre At First Sight would typically make it a Cassie/Carly movie if it were not so bad that they would lose interest. A romance with no sizzle. A romance without a spark of excitement. As perceptive as Cassie, she would not believe. Kilmer = little emotion. Plus, a plodding pace. IMDb 6.0, RT 32%, RT Audience 46% = At First Sight IMDb 6.9, RT 77%, RT Audience 83% = Real Genius Thunderheart is a definite Cassie movie. Redemption. Villains to dislike. Correcting injustice. One of the best films Val Kilmer has done. She would like Thunderheart more than any of the poll choices including At First Sight.

David

Cassie - You are a Daisy !!!

Wesley White

My vote is "Willow"! That is one of my all time favorite fantasy movies growing up as a kid, and I rank it as #9 in my top 10 favorite movies of all time! It's such a charming fantasy movie that deserves more love! George Lucas producing and Ron Howard directing, they did a wonderful job! Val Kilmer is also well casted in this movie and his camaraderie with fellow actor Warwick Davis is just spot on! In my opinion that movie holds up pretty well to this day, I so hope it wins! Love and support🥰😇🙏😁🤗😉✌👍🌹

Bill W

Since it looks like Willow is a winner. Cassie should also watch Life's Too Short (BBC 2011, 7 - 30m episodes) Warwick Davis.

Richard Maurer

Come on, people who are voting for movies other than Real Genius, do you really want dollar store brand LotR to win? Switch your votes before it’s too late. The films you’re voting for now have zero chance of winning anyway.

Richard Maurer

Well the obvious parallel between Gandalf and Obi-Wan (especially their “fates”) for one, but in general the influence of both LotR. and to a lesser extent Dune, is there - mostly in A New Hope.

Nolofinwe

Real genius is the most fun, the Saint is a spy romcom right up your alley, Thunder heart has Indian Mysticism quality, Spartan is a taught thriller great, the Doors An Academy arward performance . Tough vote !

Carol Rocha

Thunderheart is still AMAZING! ❤️

VirtuallyVeronicka

Let’s go Willow! The score is so beautiful and magical. ✨

Variable38

Did the movie Willow kill your parents or something? Give it a rest.

Richard Maurer

How dare you bring that incident up? Have you no feelings?

TheSingulatarian

Show us on the doll where Warwick Davis touched you.

JohnnyUtah

I agree with the pacing being slow watching it back as an adult, but the score is great and I'm a sucker for a good score.

Clay F

+1 for Thunderheart.

Clay F

Richard makes a good point. A vote for anything other than Real Genius is a vote for Willow.

Chris Thom

I thought Real Genius was an 80's movie he did when he was young?

Just Plain Bob

It is and he was (young). His character is 21-22 and I’d guess he was that age or very near it. I love the movie and am hoping it stages a comeback to get a reaction.

Eric Parpart

Willow is a classic and Cassie will enjoy.

Clint Patac

I love Willow, but if you wanna see one of, if not his first lead role, Top Secret would be the one. It’s hilarious because it’s done by the Zucker Brothers, who are responsible for Airplane and the Naked Gun films. Please at least make it in your top 3.

Dan M

There’s still a shot for Real Genius to pull ahead is everyone who didn’t vote for Real Genius or Willow follows your lead 🤞

T.L.A

W I L L O W " You Are Great!"

Joe J

I switched over to Real Genius since my pick has no chance. She'll probably just watch the top 2 anyways if close.

Richard Maurer

Joe J - True, but the closer it is the more likely she is to watch the runner-up……..unless the that runner-up is The Fly ;-)

ArtemusPrime137

This was a tough one. I went with real genius because I knew some guys like that in college. Also Real Genius released in 1985.

Andrew Heller

Johnny depp scene with him and rick is hilarious

Bill W

What do we vote for if we don't like either one?

Bill W

I posted 2 of the scenes with Warwick and Val on Discord. I re-watched the scene where Warwick is checking out apartments and he gets locked in the bathroom because he can't reach the doorknob... I was out of breath from laughing.

Richard Maurer

Bill W - well since a vote for any besides these 2 isn’t going to change anything, you can either not vote or vote for the one you dislike the least.

Clay F

Bill -- vote Real Genius if you dislike Real Genius less than you dislike Willow.

Kal Zakath

Almost all of the ones on the list are really good movies for what they are... Crazy comedies, fantasy, biographies, remakes of old TV shows.. Only one I see a difficulty with would be The Doors because of copyright issues for YouTube, but it is a great movie.

TheSingulatarian

We can still save Top Secret. All the other losers have to change their vote to Top Secret and we will win.

Padraig Glennon

Its got to be TOP SECRET!!!! Val Kilmer as Nick Rivers. One of the funniest / silliest movies. So many Quotes!! "I know a little german, ...hes sitting over there". 🎵🎶SEEK-SURFIN'!!!!!!!!!🎵🎶SEEK SURFIN'!!!!!!🎵🎶😂😂😂 I wish they all could be double barreled

Padraig Glennon

Souvenirs, Novelties, Party Tricks 😂😂😂😂

Chris Thom

I don't know if I can be objective about Willow because it's a pure nostalgia kind of thing. But I'm kind of glad it won.

Chris Thom

I haven't seen it yet. Is it a John Hughes movie?

JarHead0351

I wasn't a big fan of Willow and don't know what people saw in it, but I ain't them - lol I just pick one myself - The Saint

JPDotCom23

Same, it’s just silly

Mannygogou

I voted for The Saint... just because I haven't seen it in a while 🙂

Brad Enervold

I know the poll ended but I beg you to also watch Real Genius. I never understood the big attraction with Willow. But I think Val Kilmer as Chris Knight in REAL GENIUS was his best and funniest roles. Please Please Please watch it. I guarantee you will love it. :)

Ryan Towell

as for charm and/or acting chops You gotta watch The Saint, the Doors, & Real Genius