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“What the F is wrong with Seattle?!” Wowee we’re really getting into some stuff in this episode, I miss Jackson and Joel but definitely amazing sets and scenes this episode!

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The Last of Us (S2:E4) - Full Reaction - Popcorn In Bed

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K, Zachary

The scene between Ellie and Dina when they are in the theater was ummm passionate and was very good acting because when we were watching this on Sunday night both are jaws dropped. However I was reminded by my wild love that I need to be respectful of other people's beliefs. Just because we believe one thing doesn't mean everyone feels like that. I was also warned very clearly when she texted me this afternoon to show kindness towards your fellow man and always take the high road.

AdrianF

Sound is goosed in this one?

AdrianF

Oh, great. You're like that...

Shad Kanyak

"Why do we have to fight each other in the apocalypse?" When did we ever stop? Resources, land, ego, power. It's a vicious infinite cycle.

OddThomas

I always skip the 'coming next' stuff. Why spoil it?

Clarence Newman

I'm officially struggling with this series now. The number of times I was mad at Ellie and Dina for making stoopid decisions here. It just isn't the same without Joel.

TechJJ

It's to give some excitement and incentive to keep watching.

TechJJ

That is the point - and more realistic. Character growth require mistakes. Remember Ellie wrote in her diary about the "Bearbque" and then "Don't F*k Up!" 2-3 times? It also an emphasis on Ellie is the "hot head" one and Dina is the thinker/planner type.

AdrianF

Best game ever. Boo hoo tho, Clay.

Clarence Newman

Yeah, I get that, but some of the things they were doing were as if they'd just turned up at the party. Ellie in particular has been through an entire season of crap, then 5 years more, then the 3 episodes of this season, and thus should really have a bit more common sense (hothead or not!) Examples would be plodding down the centre of the Seattle streets in plain view when common sense would tell you that there could be lookouts everywhere. Sleeping in the middle of that big room, too far from cover, when anyone or anything could sneak in and catch them. Common sense would make a hardened veteran (which Ellie is) pick a corner behind some kind of barrier. By the time they burst out on to the roof with no regard for the possibility of someone either being there or seeing them (not so much as a half-crouch), I was pretty bugged. Granted, there's a bias because I hate the fact that they killed Joel, but Ellie really needs to wise up. Otherwise, the only thing keeping her alive is the script.

AdrianF

Those that finished the game know. The show will follow it. The players that stopped are the same as all the moaners here. Tiny minds that couldn't exit their tiny mind bubble. It's not the same without the mass murderer. Or something.

Joe J

Don't insult others opinions.

Milton Reduxed

These are the top 7 rated movies from Popcorn Requests we could have watched instead of The Last of Us Season 2. Just sayin' • Beverly Hills Cop • WarGames • Who Framed Roger Rabbit? • The Blues Brothers • City Slickers • Jack Reacher • Children of Men

Joe J

"What if's" can drive you crazy around here, Lol.

Mike Lemon

Now do Trek. Then do all the franchises/series longer than a "trilogy".

Carlos Molina

I’m wondering if we’re going to see how the scars do their interrogations. Isaac interrogation was very brutal, and dark, just like the video game.

Canadianant

You can count me in as one who misses Joel but there was some great action and excitement in this one and I enjoyed it. I'm glad your still watching this. I like to have weekly story to look forward to. I agree with you how was there not a million questions asked after the big reveal. There's a whole herd of elephants in the room but no answers. I'm further curious where the story goes.but we are more than halfwau through the season already

Canadianant

There's time for that as well guys and this is coming from someone who loves your whole list.

Clay F

The Last of Us S2 (7 episodes) runtime equivalent to THREE 2-hour movies. Her reactions to S2 episodes have been great so far. I am glad she reacting to LoU S2. Of the movies you list, only Children of Men and The Blues Brothers are of interest to me. But that is a moot. Because the 3 movies (equivalent in run time to LoU S2) we would have got instead of LoU S2 could have likely been on the level of Willow or Double Jeopardy. S2E2 was one of the best production quality of any TV episode in history. I am reserving judgment of S2 until end of S2. She may decide not to react to LoU S3 but reacting to LoU S2 was a given. I am glad we getting GoT. Maybe after GoT, she will react to another iconic TV show such as The Wire, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, etc.

Milton Reduxed

@ Clay, but they are taking 7 slots, equivalent to 7 movie reactions I think those 7 films would be both a richer viewing experience and get more views on youtube. Just offering an alternate point of view

Mike Lemon

@Milton- I'm sarcastically pointing out mod behavior, I don't really see much wrong with the original comment. See- Extra Butter Live Hangout on Patreon Tonight - for context. This will likely be the only time I point out their behavior, but I'll be thinking it every time.

TechJJ

Why do you think The Last of US is NOT a top request?!? I can only speak for me. I subscribed to Cassie's channel because she was reacting to S1 (and become (long term) paid Patreon member here when she decided to do Star Trek). Part II game (S2 and S3) is a real masterpiece like Part I but in a different way. Unlike Part I game (S1) that is gripping along the way, this one gets people mostly after the story is told in completion and think and re-think way after the story is over. But, before that happens, it does test your patience. And it tests your sympathy. For the gamers, the game is highly playable along with beautiful sceneries and carrying Ellie's vengeance. I'm not liking that show-only viewers have to wait for two more years for S3 for the complete story, which maybe tough to "want-to-appreciate" by that time. Don't get me wrong. I LOVE Beverly Hills Cop I, II, and even III and the Netflix's latest AxelF. I also love War Games. But I wouldn't trade them for The Last of Us reactions.

Clay F

Milton, you have a valid alternate point of view. My reply is that 7 movies is a bigger commitment than 7 episodes of Last of Us. A 53 minute episode is easier for her than a 2-hr movie. Watching the episodes with her essentially as the episodes are aired is a cool experience and enhances the channel. My guess has brought in some Patreon $10 memberships. As for the YT edits, I agree that Children of Men and The Blues Brothers would likely get more views. Also maybe Who Framed Roger Rabbit? which I might skip that reaction. She indicated she is saving Beverly Hills Cop. I know there are vocal haters of both LoU S2 and LoU game Part II , but LoU S2 has been a rich viewing experience for many. My son liked Part II of the game more than Part I. I will decide at the conclusion of S2 if I will watch S3. The bottom line is that after how much she liked S1, then S2 was essentially a given for her.

Clay F

The 'coming next' stuff has been enticing for me. Piques my interest without being much of a spoiler.

Clay F

There were homophobes who didn't like S1E3

Barbie Pootsky

None of that really bothered me. Joel often rode down the middle of streets and all survival she would have learned from Joel before 5 years of relatively (for their world) cushy life. The falling asleep in the middle of the room can be attributed to passion and also the fact that Ellie is a survivor but has never been seen to be a strategist. And running up the stairs and busting out to the roof is the obsession of getting Joels killers taking over which I think we'll see a lot more of next episode

Clay F

Great reaction. You were jumpy but into it -- seemingly big time invested. Invested at minute one of the episode, which is an advantage of reacting to a TV show. Agree that the sets are so well done, and that Dina and Isaac = good acting. As you may recall, Jeffrey Wright (excellent actor) who plays Isaac was also in Daniel Craig Bond movies. Ellie and Dina should definitely turn around and go back to Jackson. I had to suspend disbelief a little when Ellie manhandled that trained WLF guy twice her size. I am not a prude, but the detailed male nudity was a little much for me. I am glad you are reacting to S2. Your reaction has been great in each of the 4 episodes so far. As you know, only 3 episodes remaining for S2. I like that you are reacting to the episodes as they air. Fresh. There is a sense of an empty spot in the show because Joel is no longer, but the show is nevertheless engaging. I do have the same question as you = where are the Joel flashbacks?

TechJJ

Ellie killing the WLF soldier is very much her signature kill in the game. It's sneaking up, or somehow climb from behind in choking position, but can only effective kill with her shiv stabbing at the neck. She's too small and not strong enough to "manhandle". Regarding Joel flashbacks, there was a authoritative mention (don't know the source) that all relevant flashbacks will be consolidated into one episode. Those that played the game and know the story structure inside out are guessing that will be episode 6. It's just a (calculated/educated) guess by the gamers. In the game, flashbacks are everywhere - some players complained too much. The dance scene was a flashback near the end of the game story but made "inline" in the show's S2E1. Not much of spoiler since that dance scene was also revealed as a 3rd trailer for 2018 E3 event - 2 years before the game release, if my memory serves.

Clay F

No matter her signature move in the game, when I see a tiny girl (no matter how well trained) with no real strength jump on a trained big guy's back, I think what is realistic is the trained big guy would immediately discard her across the room or slam her down on the floor. That seemed crystal clear to me. The TV show adaptation of the game depicted the tiny girl Ellie manhandling the guy (twice her size) from behind = not realistic. It looked absolutely ridiculous seeing her tiny frame with little body mass and little strength 'manhandle' him from behind, e.g., in wrapping her puny arm around his strong neck attached to his strong upper body -- ludicrous, absurd. But I am more than willing to suspend disbelief to enjoy the show. I hope the TV show has Joel flashbacks, as in the game.

Gábor Árki

But Clay, what is the point in sacrificing 7 full reaction slots for just 1-1 hour long episodes? These could have been easily grouped to at most 4 reaction slots. And that would have given us time to at least 3 movies instead, for those, who are not interested in this series.

Clarence Newman

Given the many discussions about Joel's death and the series staying true to the game, I have a question for the gamers. With the exception of the original Driver (at which I was a legend in my own bedroom) the last games I played on a computer were the old Tomb Raider/Bloodrayne/Cate Archer adventures on pc. That being the case, my understanding of this sort of game is that you play a certain character (of which there may be several) and then have to navigate through a series of adventures and scenarios - often perilous to your health. You die, you reappear, your lives diminish, but you always get the chance to rectify your mistakes. Here's my problem with The Last of Us and the insistence that the series had to stay true to the game. As Lara Croft, I often turned a corner and fell into a pit full of spikes, or was ambushed by an army, or missed my jump and fell to my death - but as in Jumanji, the game would then reset, my character would reappear at an earlier stage of the game (minus one life) and on I would go again. One thing's for sure, I never accidentally fell into that pit twice, I never advanced into the area I was ambushed before without foreknowledge and a different strategy, and if I had been playing Joel in The Last of Us, I would never have let Abbie trick me TWICE into saving her or taking her back to her safe house. Second time around, I would've probably shot the veg-head who was attacking her AND THEN SHOT ABBIE HERSELF! Problem solved, move on to the next obstacle. I'm clearly missing something, which is why I'm asking. It just seems very strange to a casual 90s gamer that the character you're playing in a game (in this case The Last Of Us version of Lara Croft) can be killed and that's the end of the character. Where's the extra lives and scene reset, people?

Chris B.

Your read of how poorly things are written in Part 2 is exactly why many of us loved the first game and pretty much hate the second one. The minority of hardcore defenders for Part 2 will continue to try and poison the well like they always have by accusing us of bigotry and being “chuds” (I’ve already seen some of it in these very comments) but the truth is the story in part 2 was always poorly written and entirely contradictory to the character arcs of the first game. Because the show is staying pretty close to the games, we’ll see that whole reaction continue to play out all over again during the rest of the show, especially as viewership continues to drop off, audience reviews continue to grow in criticism, and defenders become more unglued and toxic in trying to defend the indefensible.

Clarence Newman

Understood Chris, but that's the toxic element. What I'm asking is why it's not possible, within this particular game, to learn from mistakes that "kill" your character, reset and do something different. Isn't the fun of a computer game like this to face difficult perils, work out how to get past them (even if it takes a dozen lives), and eventually come out victorious? In Tomb Raider, Lara Croft died a million times, but you were always able to reset and go again. If the outcome for your character is fixed, that strikes me as a movie, not an interactive game.

Clay F

Gabor - if she wasn’t watching the episodes as they aired, she would have likely grouped episodes as she has typically done for series. An advantage for her has been to ease her weekly commitment a bit.

Clarence Newman

OK, but unless Abbie is a complete idiot, she would have to know that SOMEONE (not necessarily the little girl they subdued in the kill-room) would be looking her up and she would therefore be on the lookout for that. Ellie should know that Abbie would know that and therefore should be more careful herself. I don't remember an instance where Joel and Ellie turned up in a town specifically looking to kill a member of that town's defence force. If they had, he may have kept them more in the shadows on approach. As for the rest, of course you're right - when emotions run high, the mind turns to peanut butter. All I'm saying is that in the real world, those kind of lapses would get her killed.

Chris B.

To be fair, both Last of Us part 1 and 2 could already be considered half movie/half game essentially, with the actual gameplay segments only in place to move the characters from one fixed scene to the next, never having player choice, never impacting any of the story and world they have in place. Tomb Raider and Driver are definitely more “pure” games where any story is mainly window dressing on the gameplay mechanics that are the meat of the game itself (like with tomb raider’s puzzles).

Clarence Newman

Sounds very unsatisfying, though several on here have confessed to loving the games so maybe not. When it comes to games like this, I'm a walk-off-into-the-sunset-with-the-big-diamond-and-the-pretty-girl-The-End kind of guy.

Clay F

My son loved the game, and he preferred Part II over Part I. The TV show is an 'adaptation' of the game. Thus, the TV show reality is not the game reality. Therefore, while discussions of the source material (the game) may be interesting, such discussion is not helpful in understanding the TV show. When construing the TV show, I suggest to completely ignore the game.

Clarence Newman

If only, Clay. My entire thought process here is based on both sides of the argument regarding Joel's death. Question from fans of the show: Why did they have to kill Joel? He WAS the show. Answer from fans of the game: Because Joel died in the game and they have to be true to the game. Therefore, while trying to get my head around the TV show, it's pretty hard to ignore the game.

Chris Thom

I haven't seen the show so I don't wuite know what this is about, but it's reminding of when Carl croaked on TWD. For years it was 'we do it for Carl...but maybe Carl, can...Caaaooorrrrlllll....Carl will live on...where is Carl???' Then he was just gone. The show went on just fine, but it was hard to ignore the massive Carl-sized hole in the plot and motivations. Same when Rick left. But it's always fascinating to see what a show will do to try and fill those gaps.

TechJJ

In S2E1 Ellie training wrestling with a big guy in the barn. The point of that was "don't get punched in the face but rest is good". I guess it failed to convince you or other folks. Maybe a waste of scene.

Mark White

I want all those movies Milton!😃

Mark White

I’m afraid I know nothing of this gaming world! The last game I played and was seriously addicted too, was the original “Command and Conquer” on the original PlayStation. I think it must be about 25 years ago now! 😮

AdrianF

It's not insulting when the other opinions are objectively incorrect. The reviews for the game on PC are massively positive, console not so much. It's immaturity married to the incapacity of logical thought.

AdrianF

I used to sub to a very big UK reactor that I stopped watching S1 after its 3rd episode. Life's too short.

AdrianF

What are you even talking about Milton?

Gray

Gotta say the set makers have done fantastic in getting eveything looking like the game, I'm still enjoying the show. It's a shame the comments are getting so toxic would hope people would just let things be if you not even watching the show at all or save that for someother internet forum.

Clay F

She is definitely releasing the reaction the same week the episode airs. I like her doing it that way.

Clay F

Yeah, that scene was also ridiculous. It’s a matter of strength and size (mass). Also agility to some extent. Might have helped if the TV show had cast someone different than such a tiny girl. Also, I can more readily believe a quick stab in the neck than that tiny frame manhandling a guy. Those two scenes look almost cartoonish.

TechJJ

She did a quick stab in the neck after Dina shoot the window.

R 🌀

I mean Ellie's been gay this whole time. Needing a reminder to show empathy to another person is a little embarrassing

K, Zachary

I never respond to other people on here because I get myself into trouble a lot. Thank you for taking the time to respond and I appreciate your feedback. I disagree because there are a small percentage of people on here who have no empathy for anyone. I don't want to label anyone but there used to be a subreddit on Reddit that got booted off because of there level of hate directed towards woman. Rather than label anyone I will leave you with this https://youtube.com/shorts/QorW_KJKWwQ?si=RnezVjemK5OJbwcN

kaiielle

@Clarence - the games of The Last of Us have a strict narrative. To your point of: "If I had been playing Joel in The Last of Us, I would never have let Abbie trick me TWICE into saving her or taking her back to her safe house. Second time around, I would've probably shot the veg-head who was attacking her AND THEN SHOT ABBIE HERSELF! Problem solved, move on to the next obstacle." - that's not possible in these games. Basically think of it like a movie that you are able to explore and fight enemies in, but the actual plot and story is out of your control. That is fixed.

Clarence Newman

Thank you Kaielle, I understand it now. It’s all a far cry from the good old days of Lara Croft and Duke Nukem.

R 🌀

What does a woman dating short men have to do with intolerance towards gay people

Damon

*insert laugh emoji*

kaiielle

Sorry I'm late to replying Clarence (these Patreon notifications are not reliable haha), but yeah the fixed narrative type of game is certainly not for everyone. I enjoy TLOU and think it's an amazing story, but I definitely prefer my game stories to allow me to make choices and especially give me consequences to those choices.

Paul Ark

That was definitely my favorite part of this reaction