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Based on a True Story: Survival, Sports & Heroism

  • Rescue Dawn (2006) 43
  • Eight Men Out (1988) 163
  • Invictus (2009) 99
  • Deepwater Horizon (2016) 248
  • Air (2023) 66
  • American Made (2017) 75
  • American Made (2017) 8
  • The Greatest Game Ever Played (2005) 57
  • Sleepers (1996) 190
  • Patriots Day (2016) 105
  • 2025-05-26
  • —2025-05-29
  • 1054 votes
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Okay, wow! I did not realize how many movies are technically “based on a true story.” Once I started putting a list together (and reading through all your amazing suggestions), it just kept growing! From survival stories tobiopics, courtroom and war; there’s honestly so much to choose from. I split them into four polls to keep it manageable, some may be a bit of a category stretch but I tried my best!

One vote per poll, I can't decide if the top winner from each poll should go in a final poll?

Ps-I have seen a lot of based on true stories throughout the channel and before (captain phillips, zero dark thirty, a beautiful mind, catch me if you can, the imitation game, social network, argo, the fighter, the kings speech etc!

pms-guys I really underestimated how busy it would be for wedding week/last week of school/full house of family staying here/kids puking and touched by a monster is going to be late. I am so sorry but great news-Carly had a beautiful wedding day yesterday and smiled the whole day. So excited for her next chapter!

Comments

Bill Maurer

American Made is listed twice

fish_thefilmcollector

Oh no, American Made twice. Was that meant to be something else?

Erik Locquiao

Had a hard time choosing between Rescue Dawn and Patriots Day…I’ll be happy with either

Marcelo

American Made us listed twice. how about "Society of the Snow"? I can't believe is not there!

Cliff Stephenson

Who’s voting for Sleepers?!? Cmon guys… know your audience.

Jake McNulty

Cassie you put "American Made" on here twice.

Rosario Cicero

I’m really pulling for Air. Ben Affleck is a highly skilled director

Cole Jennett

She loved A Time to Kill, I put it on par with that

WestBound

Heard great things about Air

Cliff Stephenson

A Time to Kill is a -scene- Sleepers stretched it into the whole plot.

Chris Thom

Haven't seen Sleepers in forever but I remember it being really good.

Anthony Carlson

Probably one of the greatest sports movies to not have a single scene of sports action.

Popcorn In Bed

double checked i didn’t miss one, just actually put twice

Gray

Christian Bale is great in Rescue Dawn but you can say that for all his films really.

Win

Was it meant for American Underdog

Robert Baldino

I kinda feel like Cassie will like Invictus the most.

LukeG84

I’m amazed Deepwater Horizon isn’t winning this poll by a landslide. It’s a fantastic movie, and I can just see Cassie’s (and hopefully Carly’s) reaction to it now. Their jaws would be on the floor. I really hope it wins. 🙏🏻

Richard Maurer

Which American Made should I vote for? ;-)

Jim

Congratulations and best wishes to Carly!

Art Vandalaay

American Made… So good they made it twice 😂

Jeff

Ok so I just voted for 4 movies in the 4 polls and it looks like none of them have a prayer of a chance based on the early voting. But, more importantly, great to hear Carly had a wonderful wedding day.

Rod Reavern

I voted for "American Made." My next choice would've been "The Greatest Game Ever Played" because it's the most entertaining golf movie I've ever seen, after "Happy Gilmore" of course. (Yes, that includes "Tin Cup" because my criteria is ENTERTAINMENT. The romance was boring and lame.) I don't think Cassie will enjoy the subject matter of "Sleepers."

Cole Jennett

This is the only poll of the 4 that my movie has a decent chance. So I kinda feel ya. Just have to hide our time😉

Christian R

Patriots Day and Deepwater Horizon are both incredible movies! Would love to see you watch both one day regardless of this poll outcome.

Ignis Rændl

not much love for "The Greatest Game Ever Played." one more vote anyways 😉

Dan M

It’s gotta be Eight Men Out. Based on a true story AND a sports movie! Double bonus! Oh, and by the way, a great cast led by John Cusack.

Tim Foppiano

I was disappointed to see that as we enter Memorial Day weekend we fail to see such films as “ The Last Full Measure “ A incredible true story of a Medal of Honor awardee in Viet Nam. These are the stories that I believe honor each and everyone of us. As we remember, especially during memorial. It is an incredible story of valor.

Brian McGovern

Curious to see Sleepers leading. Saw this when it came out and never saw it again. I seem to recall there was conjecture that this story was as true as Fargo.

JAKH

"Concussion" (2015) - Will Smith

Clay F

Every movie in this poll is good. My ranking in order of my most preferred: 1. Invictus (2009) 2. Air (2023) 3. Sleepers (1996) 4. Rescue Dawn (2006) I voted "Sleepers" because "Invictus" and especially "Air" apparently don't stand a chance. I think Cassie would prefer Invictus (2009).

JAKH

If we tell Cassie and Carly that it has Mark Wahlberg, Kurt Russell, and Kate Hudson in the same movie will that help?

JAKH

Part of the problem is that it is competing against "Patriots Day" (2016), also with Mark Wahlberg

GomezAddams

A great poll, but Rudy should be on there as I'm sure you'll love it. Always take care of your life first, and thanks for all you do and share. 🎥🧝‍♀️🍿👏🫶

LukeG84

As good a Patriots Day is, isn’t not even in the same league as Deepwater Horizon.

Cole Jennett

Sleepers has Kevin Bacon, Robert DeNiro, Minnie Driver, Dustin Hoffman, and oh yeah…Brad Pitt😉

Clay F

Yep, last place. I liked it.

MacGuffinStuff

Congratulations Carly btw, she deserves a beautiful wedding!

Cole Jennett

Because I still can’t talk to you on discord😉, if you find Eight Men Out falls out of contention, I’d appreciate if you would help a brother out with a vote swap. I’d owe you one. Sleepers has been near the top of my list for like 4 years now, lol

Dan M

Consider it done. No I.O.U necessary…4 years is a LONG time to wait. 👍

Cole Jennett

You should still make your way to discord. I have a lot of things I want to talk to you about😉

LukeG84

Lots of big names. Still not as good a DH.

WestBound

Would have been interesting to throw one of these polls on YT

Shawn Kildal

Didn't you have a full week of Robin Hood movies?

Clay F

Would be safe because no Howard the Duck quality movie in the poll.

djKENTO

Deep Water Horizon and Patriot’s Day double feature. Peter Berg knocks it out of hte park with both of them and he made them back to back, released in the same year. Deep Water Horizon changed the way I see the fossil fuel industry entirely.

Cole Jennett

The first thing we will do Dan is talk about Shawn Kildal behind his back😉. No Shawn, I may have helped plant the idea of a theme week, but Prince of Thieves was the only one I was pushing for.

zynjams

Patriots Day is one of my all time favorite movies, also please watch the documentary of patriots day to listen to the actual victims and the first responders.

Dan M

My daughter is home from college for the summer. I’ll ask her to help this tech doofus get on Discord.

Ike

AIR. Can I pay others to vote my way? Is that cheating? Anyone takes cash? (kidding)

Thoko

I'm struggling to choose between American Made (2017) and American Made (2017). They're both such different films

Thoko

The 2017 one ;-)

Cole Jennett

I think that’s where my vote would have gone if Sleepers wasn’t on this poll

Clay F

I changed my vote from Invictus to Sleepers.

Clay F

Agree.

Mark Vaderr

I don't really have a big dog in this race, so I'll just say, "Congratulations Carly!"

Clay F

Currently, Sleepers losing by only 2 votes. CURRENT VOTES Deepwater Horizon (2016) - 81 votes [20%] Sleepers (1996) - 79 votes [19%]

Art of Free Speech

Kind of sad to see McFarland USA wasn't on this list... and Dangerous Minds, Stand by Me get no love, either (on any of the polls). McFarland USA is even a Kevin Costner movie. I thought that would count for something.

Rick Rodriguez

Damn. These are all worth a reaction

Rick Rodriguez

Went with Patriots Day. But would love seeing Sleepers win.

Clarence Newman

Not a great set of polls for me, this one. Total films - 36 Films on my wishlist (185 total) - 1 However, I may have found the problem: Films I haven't seen - 26 Hard for me to get excited for any particular film here (World's Fastest Indian is still tying its shoelaces), but this channel has already given me some great little gems I've never seen before so fingers crossed for that.

Shawn Kildal

I remember Son in Law too. It's all good. I'm mostly messing with Cole. He is definitely an OG & deserves several influential suggestions for movies here and there for sure

Björn Karlsson

I know a gem you can see without Pib 😉😉

YodatheHobbit

Have you possibly already seen Thirteen Lives (2022)? I thought for sure it would make one of the polls. it's a Ron Howard Film starring Viggo and Collin Farrell as two of the guys who helped save the kids. The documentary about the same event is also really good.

Roger Banks

“Bat 21” Would have been a great option here. Gene Hackman at his peak.

Chris Thom

Think you might like Sleepers. It's got an incredible cast.

Chris Thom

I didn't know Dangerous Minds was based on a true story.

Chris Thom

Was that about an oil spill?

fastecp1

Sleepers is so good.

Richard Maurer

Clarence - I haven’t seen most of these either. The whole ‘based on a true story’ thing isn’t really my genre, generally speaking. So I’ve just been voting for the few I’ve seen (and liked). I’m not sure how Cassie is planning on watching these, I hope we don’t end up with a solid month of ‘based on’ films.

Clay F

The World’s Fastest Indian (2005) is in 6th place at 8% in the Biopics poll.

Clarence Newman

Pretty standard for me, Clay. I am truly a Jonah for my movies.

Clay F

CURRENT VOTES (difference of 19 votes) Deepwater Horizon (2016) -- 127 Sleepers (1996) -- 108 Maybe middle-aged patrons having nostalgia for Sleepers (1996) will vote this morning/afternoon for Sleepers, narrowing the gap. Both are good movies. *Sleepers (1996) [IMDb 7.5] . Nom 1 Oscar: Best Score (John Williams). *Deepwater Horizon (2016) [IMDb 7.1]. Nom 2 Oscars: Best Sound Editing, Best Visual Effects.

Larry Darrell

It was recommended a few times. Had some support. I guess it got missed… or it was meant for one of the double American Made spots. Whoops.

Larry Darrell

Thirteen Lives (2022)… Survival and Heroism

Bill Egan

I was hoping "Hoosiers" would be on this list. Hackman and Hopper are great in it.

Larry Darrell

Thirteen Lives (2022)… Survival and Heroism… please consider for next time.

Chris Thom

Her team watched it together when she played basketball in HS. And it's weird that I know that.

Clay F

Yep, she has seen Hoosiers.

Chris Thom

I didn't realize it had such a cult following. I honestly didn't think a movie about marketing would be that successful.

Cliff Endicott

"Sleepers" has my vote. Not always an easy watch, but a terrific movie. An incredible cast - Brad Pitt, Jason Patric, Robert DeNiro, Kevin Bacon, Minnie Driver and Dustin Hoffman. It's in second place, so I have a small hope that my vote in one of these polls has a chance to win.....

Clay F

As for this poll, I think you would like Invictus (2009). Matt Damon. Inspirational. Rugby. Morgan Freeman is Mandella. Also, hard not to like Air (2023).

Chris Thom

Totally forgot Minnie Driver was in it. Always thought she looked familiar when Good Will Hunting came out.

Clay F

CURRENT VOTES Deepwater Horizon (2016) -- 136 Sleepers (1996) -- 124 The gap narrowing. +19 votes for DH an hour ago to +12 votes for DH now.

Chris Thom

Oh interesting. I knew it was about a disaster of some kind.

Chris Thom

Peter Berg really becoming the auteur of true events drama.

Clay F

Minnie Driver is good in Sleepers. I like her.

Robert Jewell

Don't know any of these films so can't vote. Would have loved to have seen GENTLEMAN JIM (1942) though about world championship boxer James J. Corbett although it is certainly more a comedy of manners than a dramatic biopic, but it is a tremendous entertainment for hopefully another poll.

Chitown Livingston

Brian's Song? True story of Brian Piccolo and Gale Sayers. Not sure if you've seen Cinderella Man - James J. Braddock. I didn't vote... nothing jumps out.

bgb1975 (Brian)

Ouch! Four polls, and "Lean on Me" didn't make any of them! :_(

Andrew Heller

Thats such a good movie, never seen any reactions to it

Andrew Heller

Never knew how much i didnt like based on true events movies

Vincent

American Made

Clay F

She and Carly together reacted to Cinderella Man.

Chris Thom

Not exactly my favorite genre either. But the good ones are very good.

Clay F

Great job with all 4 polls. Good choices in all 4 polls. CURRENT VOTES for the 2 leaders in this poll: DH (2016) -- 159 Sleepers (1996) -- 137 3 days left in the poll. I suspect maybe at least 400 more patrons will vote. Sleepers still has a chance, especially with the possible nostalgia for Sleepers among middle-aged voting patrons.

Joe J

No 80s movies included on any of the polls, what the actual? Born on the Fourth of July (1989) Mississippi Burning (1988) Empire of the Sun (1987) The Last Emperor (1987) Gandhi (1982)

Jake Pommerer

Greatest game ever plays is one you’d love

Gábor Árki

Well, it seems none of these polls go in the direction of the movies I would like to see. By the way, does Sleepers even count in this category? Based on a quick look, it seems like another Fargo situation. Although the writer claims it is a fictionalized story based on true events, but there is no evidence to back that up, not even after several journalists tried to dig into it.

Gábor Árki

No, she has not. I believe it was on a disasters movie poll 1-2 years ago, but didn't get many votes. Even though it is a great movie and would make for a really great reaction.

Gábor Árki

I'm trying to make that reaction happen for 4 years now.

Nolofinwe

Patton is the only choice , the rest are preachy . the first season of Queen is Amazing "Charles wilsin war" give me a break no more Tom Hanls unless its film of him on Epsteins Island its hollywoods version of what history is "the Aviator is leading good choice

bgb1975 (Brian)

Forgot about "Mississippi Burning". Between that and "Lean on Me", borderline criminal that neither made any of the polls!

bknsty14

Sleepers and Eight Men Out in the same poll. Have to go with Sleepers since I’ve been requesting it for years, but as a White Sox and baseball fan in general, I’d love to see Eight Men Out as well.

Cole Jennett

You are playing with fire with your Fantasy Football status Shawn😂. JK, JK

Cole Jennett

The main character is based off the writer’s experiences. It’s not hard to imagine that the evidence to corroborate would have been buried. I have never dug into it myself, I just think it is an excellent story, with an all-time great cast. I should add that Braveheart is probably my vote for best movie ever made so that might say something, lol

Cole Jennett

Minnie had quite a run between Sleepers, Grosse Point Blank, and Good Will Hunting all within a couple years, and all amongst my favourite movies.

Clay F

The Queen (my top choice in that poll) is a movie, not The Crown TV series which I do love the first season -- some of the best TV out there.

Joe J

Cassie team left off many essential films IMO....no 80s films were included at all.

Clay F

I like the 4 polls you suggested. Both your 4 polls and these 4 polls have glaring omissions. Impossible to avoid. I am happy here because really no bad movies in these 4 polls.

djKENTO

Oil spill is such a polite term for what happened. It’s bananas. It’s terrifying.

Timothy Burrows

Sleepers is the best film here. Just we warned there are some distubring scenes.

Sean

Congrats to Carly 🎉🎉

Sean

American Made (2017) is listed twice 🤔

Richard Maurer

The very first post here pointed that out, along with many others.

Clay F

Sleepers is based on a true story, though fictionalized to extent. The book "Sleepers" by Lorenzo Carcaterra, on which the film is based, has been described as a true story, but with names and dates altered. While Carcaterra himself acknowledged that details were fictionalized, he maintained that the core events of the book did actually occur. Carcaterra said the book is true in its essence, even though details are fictionalized. The director, Barry Levinson, also said that he felt the book was accurate, with a core truth that transcends specific details. Yet, the accuracy of the book has been debated, with some questioning specifics. The book's main themes, such as the way juveniles are treated within the criminal justice system, have also been debated. The movies in these polls are each an adaptation, not a documentary. Even the much-touted Patton (1970) has many inaccuracies. The issue with Sleepers is that much may not be confirmable.

Apollo838

Really sad ‘the greatest game ever played’ is so low. Seriously underrated golf movie

Chris Thom

People complain about artistic license...but God bless it.

Chris Thom

Do you mean The Crown? On Netflix?

Clay F

I respctfully disagree. Movies based on extraordinary true events are fascinating and entertaining.

Jacob Colson

Plus, the late John Mahoney!

Clay F

Joe -- that is 5 stellar movies. I have suggested all 5. The problem is there is not enough slots in the polls. Born on the Fourth of July (1989) [RT=84%, RT Audience = 76%] Mississippi Burning (1988) [RT=79%, RT Audience = 90%] Empire of the Sun (1987) [RT=77%, RT Audience = 90%] The Last Emperor (1987) [RT=86%, RT Audience = 84%] Gandhi (1982) [RT=89%, RT Audience = 92%] I remember Lean on Me.

Troy Silvester

Thought Invictus would be the hand down choice. Certainly mine.

Keith Jacobsen

Damn, she REALLY wants us to pick American Made...

Chris Thom

Tom Cruise promised her a ticket to the premiere...

Clarence Newman

I just voted for the second American Made because it was looking unloved. Might change my vote later.

bknsty14

Chicago “native” John Mahoney. Legend. The whole cast is great and they all actually look like they can play baseball, unlike some of the baseball movies. Yes John Cusick, Charlie, Sheen, Michael Rooker, DB Sweeney., David Strathairn. Phenomenal cast.

Clay F

Are you talking about "Alive" (1993)? Or maybe "Society of the Snow" (2023)?

Clay F

My top choice

Clay F

Chris, thanks. I edited my reply. I am thinking he was confusing The Queen (2006) movie with "The Crown" Netflix TV series. I love Claire Foy in that.

John Cranberry

She has seen Sleepers? Invictus is the best one....but let us watch Marky Mark 😒

Clarence Newman

That's it, I can't stands n'more. As The World's Fastest Indian has been placed in the wrong poll (should be on this one) and is therefore, like Muhammad Ali when he tried to wrestle Gorilla Monsoon, being denied the chance to compete on a level paying field, I feel the need to step in and play my Buford T Justice "Hoooooool-DIT!" card. First things first. Like Richard said below, we don't want True events movies taking up an entire month. Top two's on a final poll, then Cassie watches the first two if she feels like doing the runner-up aswell. No problem there. BUT.....World's Fastest Indian should be watched aswell, even if she doesn't want to do it, because it's the only fair and equitable compensation for being heinously railroaded. Bear with me on this one. She wasn't enthused about watching Eddie The Eagle until we badgered her about it, and she ended up thoroughly enjoying it. World's Fastest Indian is exactly the same thing, but with Hannibal Lecter instead of Hugh Jackman, so how could she not? Basically, Cassie, it's a sports movie so tender even Gordon Ramsey would Popcorn pick it. I'm only thinking of you, and because of all the war movies on this poll, you need to get it watched before ze Germans get there. Oh, and one more thing. I have "Indian" as my Pick-a-Flick this month. If it happens to win and you've already watched it, I would like to change my pick to The Towering Inferno.

Mojo One Thousand

I have mentioned some based on real-life stuff in other comments, but I think I missed the boat with the main place the suggestions were made... my are pretty niche so they likely wouldn't have made the poll. For this category there would be: - "Wolf Creek" (2005) this seems a bit random, but it is a story about survival, and is based on some true crime stories that have happened in Australia. This will probably also get suggestion for October.

Clay F

Cassie -- please react to the 4 winners. No need to combine in a subsequent poll. Excellent movies based on fascinating true events. Great content for the channel. 1. "Charlie Wilson’s War" (2007). 5 Golden Globe noms = Best Picture, Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts, Philip Seymour Hoffman (also Oscar nom), Aaron Sorkin. --or alternatively “Bridge of Spies” (2015) if that wins. [Spielberg] [RT=91%]. Tom Hanks. Nom 6 Oscars incl. Best Picture. Stunning movie you would like I think. 2. “The Aviator” (2004). Nom 11 Oscars incl. Best Picture. Won 5 Oscars incl. Cate Blanchett. 3. “Deepwater Horizon” (2016). RT 82%. RT Audience 82%. Such a profound event. I work in that industry. 4. “Patton” (1970). Won 7 Oscars including Best Picture. THE PIANIST (2002) Also, please maintain consideration of THE PIANIST (inadvertently left out of the polls) as an automatic watch you mentioned. The Pianist is the ultimate. **“The Pianist” (2002). Adrien Brody won Best Actor Oscar. Nom 7 Oscars incl. Best Picture. IMDb 8.5, RT 95%, RT Audience 96%.

Joe J

Clay, she could do a run-off poll for the (4) 2nd place finishers. We haven't seen that before, but I like the idea. Get one more film too watch.

Clay F

Joe -- I like that. Get another excellent movie for a reaction. That would be 5 total -- or 6 if count an auto watch of The Pianist.

Chris Thom

Wolf Creek is a solid horror movie. Very effective. Freaked me out pretty bad.

Chris Thom

I don't think she's seen Sleepers yet.

Cole Jennett

It would make more sense to add The Pianist to the runoff poll than to give it an automatic watch, just because it was mistakenly omitted. It probably wouldn’t have won anyways. Might have, but likely not

Cole Jennett

She saw Sneakers?! She never saw Sleepers

Clay F

She said "maybe" will be automatically watched. Cassie: "crap-i forgot the pianist on this list." "i hate that you can’t edit polls-hmmm maybe because of my mistake it just has to be automatically watched." I hope she gives The Pianist an auto watch. It's that good (and important) imo. I have seen a lot of positive comments from varied patrons, though that is anecdotal. The Pianist could beat Sleepers in a runoff poll. I have never seen her mention a runoff poll?

Richard Maurer

I hope she does a combined poll with the four winners. 4 of these ‘based on’ movies being watched is a bit much for my taste.

Sahitya

The Grey should have been on this

Kiss the Librarian

At this point in my American life, the movie "Idiocracy" feels like it's both based on a true story and about survival.

Randy Schuh

Pride of the Yankees would have been a great one to see.

Dan M

Doesn’t look like Eight Men Out is gonna come from behind with a walk off win, so I just switched my vote to Sleepers. Good luck amigo!

Clarence Newman

Very true. There have been many other polls we'd have wanted that and have never got it, so 2 max has to be the limit here.

Clarence Newman

Can't agree with this one, I'm afraid. Top two from each poll should go to a final poll, then (as usual), the winner plus *maybe* the runner-up get watched. It's great to have these polls for True events movies, but it's important to get back to the broader stuff too.

Clay F

Clarence -- I appreciate your view -- but this is broader stuff. These movies are a wide breadth of content. Plus, all high quality movies. This is a great and rare opportunity for the channel to get 4-5 diverse and high quality movies. Plus, way too much work/effort in compiling these movies/polls to distill down to merely a single movie. Take advantage of having 4 polls (40 good movies total) to give 4 movies.

Clay F

The 4 winners will be a wide breadth of content. Plus, all high quality movies. This is a great and rare opportunity for the channel to get 4 diverse and high quality movies for reaction. Plus, way too much work/effort in compiling these movies/polls to distill down to merely 1-2 movies. Take advantage of having 4 polls (40 good movies total) to give 4 movies for reaction.

Clay F

We have 4 polls here giving very different winners -- all 4 great for reaction. No reason to slam those. Continue to push for the "many other polls" you have wanted.

Richard Maurer

Clay - Nobody is “slamming”these films. But 4 movies slots is a lot for ‘based on’ films to take up. Watching the top 2 seems like a fair compromise to me.

Clarence Newman

I can see you love this poll, Clay, and have a lot of skin in the game, so fair play to you. But when it comes to my personal and very selfish needs, I am eager to move on to other stuff and therefore only want 2. I wouldn't worry about it though. Whenever me and Richard agree on something, it's guaranteed never to happen.

Richard Maurer

We get it Clay, you like this type of movie. Not everyone does though. If she does watch The Pianist that’s 5 movies slots taken by based on movies, odds are that at least 2 of them won’t do particularly well on YouTube. Doing all of these at once just bogs down the channel in one genre for too long of a time. It’s not like they can only do this poll once.

Richard Maurer

Clarence - There’s a first time for everything. Or how about a second time, for a martial arts poll or classic horror poll? We’ve only had one each of those. But now we have 4 based on a True Story polls? And for some reason a winner from each, plus The Pianist, gets watched? Sorry, that’s too much of one thing that hasn’t even proven itself to be popular yet.

Clarence Newman

Yes, but Cassie hasn't committed to watching 4 (or 5) yet, it's merely speculation. We need to breathe.

Richard Maurer

Clay - the channel gets “high quality” movies all the time, it’s just that you personally don’t think they are. Which is fine, but that’s your subjective opinion, not an objective fact.

Richard Maurer

I’m breathing. I just want to make it known there isn’t a consensus on watching so many of these films, that not everyone is looking forward to it.

Clay F

The winners are different genres. Plus, doesn’t matter whether a movie is based on true events or not. The category could have been movies not based on true events. These are very different movies, except they all high quality movies.

Clay F

I would be ok with 2 if The Pianist were added to give 3. Hopefully, Patton (1970) would be 1 of the 2 deleted. These are all very different movies. The category “based on true events” is almost meaningless. Similar movies could have been made based on imagined events. To me, the actual true events is a mild interest but not that important. What is significant to me is ushered in critically acclaimed movies.

Richard Maurer

They’re all based on a true story movies, they may have different sub-genres but they’re all here for the true story part. Their quality is a subjective opinion. Not saying they’re bad movies (although a person could subjectively think they are), but I’m saying other people could prefer different movies to these and not be wrong.

Richard Maurer

The idea that these are all not in the same genre, whether that’s correct or not, isn’t really a issue, as the only reason they’re in these polls is the “true story” part. And critically acclaimed only means that many critics like them. It does not make them inherently better than other films.

Clay F

Richard - true. These are critically acclaimed and with a positive consensus among the audience. That is the type of movies I like with some exceptions.

Clay F

Based on true stories is not a genre. Agree that quality is subjective. These 4 winners are critically acclaimed and with a positive consensus among the audience — that is the type of movie I like. If you look at my Top 150, all are like that. Thus, Double Jeopardy ain’t there.

Cole Jennett

I don’t think she goes through the trouble of compiling 4 polls and in the end only watches 2 movies from them. More than 4 might be asking a lot, but polls are popularity contests and if that’s not an indicator of what could potentially do well for views, I’m not sure what is.

Clarence Newman

Yeah, but all of our poll discussions throw up 40 or 50 different film suggestions, Cole, almost without fail. I think the low-level beef here (only for those who aren't loving the poll content and fair play to those other guys) is that most ideas only get one poll of 8, with maybe the runner-up watched but not always. It's GREAT that Cassie has put so many films on here for us to pick and it matters not that I personally only care about one of them. But just like all other polls, it seems to me that the result should be consistent. The top 2 or 3 should be watched, and better luck next time for the rest. Having Cassie watch 4 or 5 or 6 or 8 just because of the number of films on the poll focuses too much on one area and niggles (correct word - upsets is too strong) those who are not invested. In the end, Cassie will do what she wants and I'll always go with her choices. But until those choices are made, our opinions will ensue.

Joe J

I'm okay with a run-off poll and just watch the top 2, or just watch the 4 winners. Next Pollception we'll get to choose something else. Cassie is watching the Mad Max movies and The Sum of All Fears...so I'm getting a few wins. Every month is like that.

Clarence Newman

Agreed, Joe, it's all healthy discussion. We big up what we like, we complain a bit about what we don't, and along the way we get wins and losses. Either way, we still get Cassie.

Joe J

And I can watch Bullitt and Cool Hand Luke on Jen's channel. More wins this month.

Richard Maurer

Clay - “this is the type of movie I like” - we get that. What we don’t get is 4 or 5 movies of the types we like all watched in a short span of time. And before anyone says anything about Halloween, I’m lucky if 2 films I like (actual horror films) are watched every Halloween.

Richard Maurer

I don’t put nearly as much stock in critics opinions as you do but other wise agree.

Joe J

I would very much like a martial arts poll. Enter the Dragon should win, so just watch 2nd place also.

Cole Jennett

Let’s not forget that this all started because “based on a true story” won its own poll first. It’s not what I wanted to win, but the people have spoken. Just because the loud voices (that have something to say about everything) don’t agree, it’s clearly popular. I have no idea what she will end up doing, and don’t care all that much if she does 2 or 4 or 6 of them

Clarence Newman

Nothing wrong with having an opinion, Cole, even if it is on everything. Not so long ago, folks were celebrating the fact that Pollception had over 700 comments on it. Like really successful movies, that comes from those who keep coming back, and we keep coming back because we love it here. Opinions make a channel like this popular, so long may it continue.

Richard Maurer

Cole - no one’s saying they’re not popular, lots of things here are popular. But they don’t all get four or five reaction slots. That’s all anybody here has said, that 2 slots seems reasonable to us. What I don’t understand is why you think we don’t have a right to voice our “loud” opinions (loud? No one’s been writing in caps) As you said Cassie will decide what to watch, but she will hopefully take the interests of all her patrons into consideration, not just the ones who are cheerleading these polls.

Bill W

It belonged on the courtroom portion of the poll anyway. Not sports/survival/heroism.

Bill W

Another movie with Wahlberg. Sigh.

Bill W

The Aviator, Charlie Wilson's War, Deepwater Horizon and Patton are four different films. Yes, they're all "based on true events"... but the events they are based on are different. Different actors, different directors.... Would you be ok with all of the films being watched if they were all fictional?

Richard Maurer

Bill - based true events is still the determining factor for these films to make the polls. If there were four sports movie polls, should they be split up by sport and one of each gets watched? Or are all of them just sports films? How about next Halloween we split the horror polls by each sub-genre of horror movie? I’d love that, we could have a dozen different horror movies watched, easy. The whole breaking polls into sub-genres is probably a rabbit hole we don’t want to go down.

Cole Jennett

It’s hard for her to know what poll they belonged on if she did it herself. She goes in fairly blind.

Nolofinwe

Deepwater Horizon another fire movie for god sakes. people out there should join fire departments LOL "Eight men Out " is a better movie it's topical with the baseball commissioner finally making Joe Jackson and Pete rose eligible for the Hall of Fame after all these years but ...... Somehow people like fires on oil rigs. Sleepers ? again with that hateful vulgar mouthed creep De Niro.

Clay F

"Eight men Out " a respectable 3rd place. De Niro is awesome.