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Dances With Wolves - Full Reaction (Patreon)

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Hey guys! Here's the full reaction to Dances With Wolves with Carly. This is the theatrical release, which is 181 minutes long. We have officially seen our dads favorite movie and cemented our crush on Kevin Costner (even with the moustache and mullet :) )!

Please grab some snacks (no really, please so you can hear your own chewing over mine) and watch this beautiful movie with us!

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The unfortunate reality is that the Native Americans were treated far worse then depicted in this movie.

Terry Yelmene

Discovering friends from enemies. This was one of the truly heart-felt PiB reactions. Great job Cassie and Carly.

JPDotCom23

Kevin Costner was originally offered the Jack Ryan role in 'The Hunt for Red October', but he turned it down because he was in pre-production for this movie. The role went to Alec Baldwin. Costner did join the Ryan-verse years later, with 'Jack Ryan: Shadown Recruit', as young Ryan's mentor (Chris Pine).

JPDotCom23

While shooting the buffalo hunt scenes, Costner fell off the horse, there is footage on this

JPDotCom23

I don't know if you've seen 'Sneakers' up to this point but the Robert Redford's love interest in that movie is Mary McDonnell; Stands With A Fist herself

JPDotCom23

There was a sequel novel to this book, 'The Holy Road', which was written in 2001. Michael Blake, the author of the original, was writing a screen adaptation for this novel in 2007, but Costner said, in an interview in 2008, he would never do a sequel. Blake was writing another book with the character of John Dunbar in 'The Great Mystery' was being planned, but Blake died in 2015.

Eddie Perkins

This is one of my favorite movies. A Perfect World (1993), The Untouchables (1987), and No Way Out (1987) are some more great Kevin Costner films.

Jon Johns

Feel better miss Cassie! It's going to be a great Sunday night!

Yaisu

Is this the theatrical version or the director's cut version?

MotoDork

I was a projectionist when this film came out. I remember it was 10 reels long which was the longest film I’ve ever built up. This is a fantastic film, but sadly I only own the extended edition.

Steven Ashford

Yay!! Have you discussed it with your Dad yet.?

Rich Campbell

If you are in the UK (and possibly elsewhere) you can see the 'Theatrical Cut' here for free. https://www.channel5.com/show/dances-with-wolves Available Until: 23 January 2022 It has been edited a bit by channel 5 for family suitable TV broadcast, so you may need to re-sync occasionally. But if you're struggling to find the Theatrical Cut and have no other options.

Joe Aschenbrener

If you want Costner in a romantic movie you should try "Message in a Bottle" and also "The Bodyguard" Enjoy

Michael Lynch

Yes! I've been waiting for this to drop all day. Here we go.

Sahitya

For anyone who doesn't know, the theatrical version is on Netflix

Pickupthepieces76

Sooo Cassie, Ford vs Costner, who gets to eat popcorn with you?

David RedEagle

I have never watched this, despite being told by some it portrays my people rather accurately for the time period. Maybe its finally time.

MotoDork
>>75351334

This film is sort of a love letter to native Americans. It’s quite good.

Björn Von Knorring

It’s so funny to see you two interact and how easily you get side-tracked😂

Tobias Eiken

Oh, ironies of ironies. Everyone said the reason for doing the theatrical version was that it was much easier to find. Not in Norway it isn't! I'll try to watch it with the extended and see how that goes.

Jon Johns

Cassie & Carly, The Eggs he was eating were pickled, they are hard-boiled, then preserved in brine. Fort Sedgwick was located in Colorado. It was filmed in Wyoming, and South Dakota. The idea of those half-crazy and weird people at the beginning was to show that this is the fringe of society, the literal wild west, and civilized society was still far off to the east. People who didn't make it in 'normal' society chose to journey west, or were 'assigned' there. Many chose to go west to find their fortune, discover what they could in the wild, or just get away from 'it all.' This is a pretty classic 'western' trope.

Brian McGovern

As you can tell by the comments, the extended version is a superior product. I recommend watching it at some point, just for your own benefit. It is a long movie but all the better for it. You see what happened at Fort Sedgewick before Dunbar arrived. The buffalo hunt is slightly extended. The guy who gave Dunbar his orders, his scene is extended and you see a character who comes back in at the end.

Kevin
>>75350563

I just checked from here in the US and I got a warning; "We're sorry, you must be located in the UK to view this content."

Greg McDaniel

If you like Kevin Costner, check out Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, or, for a newer film of his, check out "The Highwaymen".

Zach Greenleaf

Another US Civil War film that you should react to with Carly is "Glory" (1989). I'll bet that almost every person who loved watching you react to Dances with Wolves would love that as well, plus the two of you will love it! Mathew Broderick, Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman :)

Paul Murphy

Haven't seen this movie in twenty years so thoroughly enjoyed watching it again with you ladies. Nicely done.

Jon Johns
>>75352953

Cassie has wanted to watch Glory for a long time! Maybe now she'll be inspired!

Jon Johns

Cassie, I have a controversial opinion, that I'm sure will be debated. An available instruction about the Civil War is the Ken Burns Documentary "The Civil War." It is 9 episodes, 1 hour each. The series received more than forty major film and television awards. It has been criticized for many, many things, like inaccuracies, and propagating the Lost Cause of the Confederacy ideology. But I believe that if you watch it with this in mind, you can choose to study for yourself more about these inaccuracies, and learn more for yourself. For a Canadian, this series would give you some basics, and entertain you as well. Some might suggest some Films about the Civil War, such as "Gettysburg" or "Lincoln" which would be fine, but they are not as instructional, and they contain their own inaccuracies, and 'poetic license.' for entertainment purposes. Until someone makes a better, more accurate documentary about the Civil War, Ken Burns version is about all you have to watch. Again, you'll have to learn what about it is inaccurate, and educate yourself about the "Lost Cause" either before, or after in order to gain better insight.

Caelin Beaty

You’d LOVE The Untouchables! We must get them to watch it!

Chris Lüders

Well, I think I will watch it tomorrow, since here it's 2.30 am now. 😴 But if both of you like Kevin Costner, I can only recommend 'The Untouchables' (1987). 😊

Tobias Eiken

The reason she was bleeding when he found her is that for some tribes it was common for women to scar themselves when in mourning.

Planner
>>75354500

He's done a surprisingly large number of (in my opinion) above average movies. Off the top of my head I would say: The Bodyguard (1992) Waterworld (1995) The Postman (1997) For Love of the Game (1999) Mr. Brooks (2007) Draft Day (2014) Are all worth watching. Mr. Brooks would be the top of my list of Kevin Costner movies.

Steven Ashford

Here in Kentucky we are surrounded by civil was battlefields and forts. Not far drive any direction for us to visit. My youngest son loves civil war history. Also here in Kentucky part of Our roads were once Buffalo runs. Diary’s from people who settled in Kentucky noted that there were so many you could walk from one side of the county to the other ontheirbacks without touching the ground. Bayonet was the word you were looking for in the beginning. The “knife” that goes on the end of rifle.

MotoDork
>>75356339

Perryville of course has a battlefield and there was a battle in Cynthiana, though there is no historical site there like in Perryville.

FranciscoGios

One of the best cinematography film ever made. Thanks again ladies!

Steven Ashford
>>75353421

I’m always game for learning more civil war history. I think Cassie is all about learning. She might take it on

Joseph Tamburo

"They can't just hurt them" Oh my sweet summer child.

Doug R

Was good.

Bill Poulter

Another most enjoyable reaction from you, Cassie, and Carly. By the way, did you happen to recognize Stands With A Fist from another movie to which you reacted?? She is the same actress who played the First Lady in Independence Day....Mary McDonnell.

Doubting Thomas

If you don’t go back to 2 hour movies soon I’m never going to get any sleep!! Great reaction as always. 👍🏻 My cats are starting to wonder why I’m crying all the time. I somehow forgot about the horse and the wolf! Yeah, won’t be watching this one again any time soon…🥲

Michael Labs

I was a joy to watch your reaction; I think that "Open Range" might be enjoyable... more Costner and also Robert Duvall and Michael Jeter (Del from "The Green Mile")...

Mr Jordan

I'm glad you are going to rewatch Dances With Wolves, but the extended cut down the road. I saw it originally in theaters but fell in love with the extended version. It really adds to the overall story, doesn't feel tacked on and just gives you more of what you like about the movie. I also see a Kevin Costner bracket down the road as well.

Ed Garland

The theatrical version that Cassie watches here, is on Amazon Prime , if that is helpful for anyone trying to find where to watch.

Sahitya

This movie is good and all, but i just cant get over it robbing Best Picture from Goodfellas in 1990.

Kevin M. Pitts

This is in my top 5 favorite films. The father/son relationship that develops between Dances and Kicking Bird and his relationship with Winds in His Hair are my favorite parts of the film. The growth of Winds in His Hair from initially wanting to go to the fort to kill Dunbar to becoming his best friend, then having to see his best friend leave the Tribe (losing his 2nd best friend in a row), to re-enacting his first meeting with him at the end but proclaiming his friendship...that part makes me tear up every single time I've seen this and I've seen it more than a dozen times.

Caomhan84

Now I have to look up "Chocolate covered cinnamon bears." Never had them before. Thanks, Cassie & Carly!

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff

This is tied with "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" for my favorite movie. Not saying they're the best, just that these two movies get me. So much to love about this movie but I'll do my best to keep it short, like 3 or 4 observations: 1. In the opening sequence, when a Confederate sharpshooter is about to headshot Dunbar but gets headshot himself, the Union soldier you see in the next frame rising from knee down firing position is Kevin Costner's dad, he always wanted to be in a Civil War reenactment and since Kevin was the director, he finally got to. It was his dad's idea. 2. The actress who played the Sioux Chief's wife was Doris Leader Charge and she actually taught the rest of the cast to speak Lakota (Sioux), they are actually speaking Lakota even though many of the actors were from different tribes. 3. Wes Studi played "Toughest Pawnee" aka the bad guy, he also played Magua in the Last of the Mohicans. He more recently starred with Christian Bale and Rosemary Pike in "Hostiles" which I recommend. It's gruesome and complicated but so is all of history. Wes Studi is actually Cherokee, grew up in Oklahoma, and is apparently a really nice guy in real life. 4. If there is one criticism I have it's echoing Russell Means, who was the elder Indian father in Last of the Mohicans, the literal last of the Mohicans, but was also in real life a native American activist and member of the Lakota Sioux nation, he didn't agree with the way the film demonized the Pawnee, the facts are more complicated. The Pawnee were not especially vicious or evil the way they were depicted. I mean, would they have named so many town after them that Leslie Knope would have to be so specific about which Pawnee she was from if they were that horrible? 😂 That said, I love this movie and I'm glad Cassie said she'd watch the extended cut eventually, it really is for fans of the movie who want even more, and it's worth the extra time.

Doug Fisher

Hey Cass... I am not sure if you or Carly noticed but you have seen Mary McDonnell (Stands With A Fist) before... Independence Day... First Lady... :)

DerekJ

Fun Canadian fact: Tantoo Cardinal who played Black Shawl (Kicking Bird's wife) was a recipient of the governor general's award 2021 along-side Ryan Reynolds and Catherine O'Hara.

Sam R.

Love you guys so glad you finally got around to watching this , how could you not love it right ? this movie is always a little hard to watch for me being Native American but I remind myself that all things happen for a reason and God is always in control. and this movie shows not all people are savage no matter race or color. OH and please consider the 2010 remake of "True Grit" the acting is soooo much better . I wouldnt steer you wrong.😊

Alex Villarreal

John Barry's instrumental score is one of my favorite movie scores. I always have The John Dunbar Theme and Two Socks at Play on rotation: they're so calming that it helps clear my head sometimes. "Can you see that you will always be my friend?" is one of those movie lines that will always make me tear up. Just thinking about it. Gosh. Great movie. Kinda like that it's considered a Dad movie, since I first watched it with my Dad one Christmas when I was little.

Mike Lipke

Kevin Costner in Wyatt Earp is really good and so is Water world

Alex Villarreal

Also: this is the first time in any context that I've seen an enthusiastic cheer for a mustache being shaved off. :)

Katie Jackson

A little trivia: so there where 3,500 Buffalo on set for the herd scenes. Graham Greene who played Kicking Bird is a Canadian actor he also played in Twilight 1 & 2. You will also see him in Maverick. Dances With Wolves is a book and there is a sequel to the book(It's Not a happy ending) John Dunbar was a real person. He was a Christian Missionary who was talking with the Pawnee. He had a son John Dunbar Jr. Who fought in the Civil War. Ten Bears is also a real person. He was a great Comanche Chief. Also if the soldiers had found the tribe they may have very well murdered everyone. It happened many times. The soldiers would wait until just before dawn and attack while everyone was asleep. They killed men, women, children and babies and where never punished for it.

Allen Bond

Looks like hard boiled eggs and raw liver are off the menu boys!

G
>>75369500

To be honest, I prefer Wyatt Earp to Tombstone. Tombstone has fantastic cinematography and gunfights, but Wyatt Earp has a better script IMO.

G

Happy Birthday in advance, Carly!!!!

Shawn Kildal

Maybe I'm getting to be an old softy, but when Cisco and Two Socks were killed, I lost it! You two held up way better than I did. Then when Wind in His Hair was yelling I will always be your friend, the tears were non-stop. Quite a journey for John Dunbar after almost having his foot taken at the beginning.

Shawn Kildal

In the extended version you get to see what happens at fort before Dunbar first arrives, what happens with Stands With a Fist's first husband, and what was going on with that weird guy that gave Dunbar his orders to go to the Fort with an appearance with General that you both liked that was later killed as they rescued him at the river. Plus longer versions of other scenes. A lot of questions you were asking were mostly answered in this version. I do highly recommend. Thanks for the great reaction video!

DJ Harrison

YES! One of my favorite movies of all time

Shawn Kildal

BTW, John Barry's music score is a key contributor to the reason this movie is as epic as it is in my humble opinion.

Jon Johns
>>75368587

Sam, Cassie has seen the True Grit you speak of, (But not the John Wayne version)

Dirk Rheeder

Could not find this version in the UK. Amazon has the extended cut. The one I downloaded from "other sources", while 181 minutes, diverged from the version they were watching ( I thought I had gotten the theatrical version with the timing the way it was). Pity, I was semi looking forward to it. I'll just go watch the extended on Amazon then :) PS: No idea what Chocolate Covered Ginger Berries ? are ? Think that's what they were talking about :) :)

Jon Johns

The Native American tribes (I am NOT native American, so please correct me) had a long, and complex history of trade, war, and political/social relations with other tribes. They did go to war, and made treaties with other tribes. In California, at least, I believe they were also conservationists, and 'joined forces' with many tribes to perform controlled burns, and conserve natural resources across the state. I, personally, believe that Capitalism, Greed, General racism, and white supremacy are what eventually led to the genocide of the native American tribes. But I am just an old white man, what do I know?

Chris Lüders
>>75358393

Thanks! When I watched BSG for the first time nearly 20 years ago, I thought about it. Where did I see the actress, in which movie or series. Then I forgot about it since it Isn't important at all, but I remembered it now when you mentioned it. 😊

Tobias Eiken

The native scouts you see at the end were probably Crow/Absaroke, the long time enemy of the Sioux/Lakota. The size of buffalo herds in the early 1800 were enormous. It was reported by early hunters that som herds took a full day to pass them. It was decimated by hunting, and when the indian wars of the 1870's were at it's height they were also killed just to starve the enemy indians. Towards the 1870's it's estimated that between 2 000 and 10 000 were killed every day. In 1800 there were an estimated 60 million buffalo in North America in 1884 there were less than 100 left. A picture of buffalo skulls piled up by hunters. Shocking. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Bison_skull_pile-restored.jpg When tribes raided each other it was usually to steal horses and "counting coups" (touching an enemy while in battle to show bravery). Murderous attacks like the one from the Pawnees in the movie was less common.

JayF

The part when they attack him after he rides into their camp yelling, "Buffalo!" seemed to confuse you. They were in the middle of some sort of ceremony and only a handful of them had spent any time with him. So all they saw was a stranger charging into their camp and rudely interrupting their ceremony. That's why they starting attacking him until Kicking Bird could get to him to make them stop.

JayF
>>75371129

Greene was also in Thunderheart with Val Kilmer. An underrated movie IMO.

Mr Trick

I remember seeing this in the theater with my sister, who had already seen it once. When the film got close to a certain, very tragic late section, she started crying ahead of time. Probably one of the most powerful moviegoing experiences I’ve ever had. I’m not an easy cry and this one always gets me.

Popcorn In Bed
>>75352234

hmm maybe carly and i need to try pickled eggs on instagram haha! Ya could you tell we got ourselves a little confused with time and place 🙈

Steven Ashford
>>75378508

Glad you mentioned this. I knew original numbers were insane,and they almost wiped out completely. Fortunately they’ve been able to bring the herd back. Obviously not to the original numbers though.

Popcorn In Bed
>>75352497

Ok yes I really do want to watch the extended now, i wondered why they never explained what happened at the fort before he got there. Do they explain more how “Christine” ended up with then?

OkieBoomer

I think we often get an overly romanticized version of what native american lifestyles were like prior to the arrival of europeans. Think of the tribes as nations. What do nations often do? War. Native americans were hardly the peaceful hippies that we like to portray them as. This movie does show some of that and it's unusual for doing so, overall.

Andrew Hogan

I had to wait to see this, but it was worth it. You now must watch the rest of Costner’s films (not all, just the ones mentioned), they’re worth it.

Popcorn In Bed
>>75355580

ok i’m glad you explained that, i meant to look it up after, i was hoping she wasn’t trying to commit suicide :(

Rich Mcclure

Have you and Carly given each other Indian names? Munches with Might for you what would Carly's be.

Uncle 'Traveling' Matt

Wow, Amelie and then Dances with Wolves. What a combo. Keep up the great stuff! :)

Gábor Árki

This is probably my second favorite movie. And not behind Top Gun :D, but Almost Famous /extended/. Just finished watching, a great reaction as usual. I was really confident you would enjoy it and was very happy it got pulled from the case. So this was my first time watching the theatrical cut and despite the 3 hours it felt surprisingly short. I did see the extended probably 4 times, but it was at least 5 years since my last watch. It wasn't easy getting a decent HD version of the theatrical cut. As usual, this is not streaming in my part of the world. But even on my usual 'alternative' sources it is extended everywhere. Although it doesn't make a day and night difference I'm still saying the extended is the superior version but I'm biased having seen that the first time. Some of the main differences I spotted: - There are a few scenes showing the previous garrison of the fort and their struggle. Having these omitted also works creating a more ominous atmosphere about what could have happened with them. But seeing them failing to adapt and live on the frontier also makes a huge contrast with Dunbar. - I do remember several additional scenes with Stands With A Fist before she first meets with Dunbar. Also, there are some additional scenes where you can see their relationship building. It felt a bit sudden for me in the theatrical. - I also recall some scenes with Two Socks, for example bringing some prey to the fort and sharing it with Dunbar. - I think the majority of the added footage is showing us more of the life of the Sioux and spending some additional time with some characters there, mainly with Wind In His Hair, Smiles A Lot and Kicking Bird. I still definitely recommend everyone who enjoys this movie to take the time and watch the extended version. For me it is a similar case than Lord of the Rings. It gets you more immersed into the time period and story and is including some additional character nuances and explanations. I also do wonder, which cut is Dad's preferred version?

Marina

It's such a pleasure to watch this movie again. I'm so happy that you have seen it ladies. Now... On to your Mum's favourite movie... Australia!

Chris Lüders

A beautiful movie and in my opinion the movie shows the life of the native americans in a very sophisticated way, especially compared to a lot of other western, in which the native americans often are only shown as unsophisticated, uneducated and murdering savages. But it is a movie and not a documentary, so of course it has a storyline, love story and some twists etc. Nevertheless I remember, this movie was very special in 1990 because there were only few movies of this kind until then and most of them quite unknown, e.g. Little Big Man (1970). I for myself heard a long time after I had seen Dances with Wolves about it. So, very fine reaction, Cassy and Carly, and you're both very right, there is a lot to learn about history which doesn't fit to the descriptions in some history books. Furthermore there are a lot of aspects in this movie which can be transferred in today's life. First of all respect for other people, understanding of other people, especially strangers, respect of other's people culture, rites and mindset. Also not to hit or shoot first and ask later if there was a misunderstanding, and so many more things. So it's also a very thought-provoking film and I appreciate particularly that it speaks not once about different 'races', because there is only one human race on this planet, namely the homo sapiens. Well, I don't want to write too much and ramble more than I already have, but I have really liked your reaction to the movie. 😊

Philip Alan

I have seen this movie so many times, I can watch your reaction without my copy and know exactly what you're reacting to! Great reactions!

Alan Kobb

Seriously? It's your father's favorite movie and it's taken you THIS LONG to see it??? You couldn't have thrown good old Dad a bone one of these years and sat with him on father's day to watch this? Just 160 more shopping days until Father's Day 2022. That's June 19. Get your dad something good and tell him you were wrong to wait so long!

Stephen Aech

I’m one of the ones who has never seen this! I’ll be reacting right along with you… when I find four hours to do it.

Gideon James

Cassie I wouldn't feel too conflicted about the Native Americans killing the soldiers. It was the United States policy to wipe them out. We were the Nazis before there were Nazis.  "The Trail of Tears was part of the Indian removal, a series of forced displacements and ethnic cleansing of approximately 60,000 Native Americans of the Five Civilized Tribes between 1830 and 1850 by the United States government." 

Brother Who

FYI I don't stream any of those options, tried to Rent, but being in Australia I'm Geoblocked i.e. they would rather not accept payment than take payment in AU. Not your issue I know, just letting you know what seems like a wide array of rental options is only available in the US.

G

Cassie will see Kicking Bird (Graham Greene) again pretty soon. Kevin Costner goofed with the telescope scene in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves.

Catherine LW
>>75445279

People throwing the word “Nazi” around reduce the actual meaning of the word. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Stephen Aech

I see a lot of great Costner titles recommended in the comments, but am I the only one who loves his earlier stuff; specifically “Fandango”?

Ron K

Great reaction from you both. A long but great movie about the civil war is the movie Gettysburg. It covers what's considered the bloodiest battle of the war. Great cast. Amazing movie.

Steven Ashford
>>75463342

It’s a popular Easter candy in the states. Milk chocolate candy shaped like a miniature egg.

Galatron 117

Such a great movie. Enjoyed this reaction. I know you both like the chick flicks and one with Kevin Costner is MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE. It’s a Nicolas sparks story.

Daryl

This film never disappoints. I brought the Theatrical version on DVD to watch this, converting it in to the right frame rate so it would keep pace. Well worth the effort. I even burned in the subtitles for those moments of the much needed translation. (That thick southern accent) 🤣 Would love to see other films with Costner. The Untouchables Robin Hood Prince of Thieves Tin Cup Open Range Three Days to Kill A Perfect World Are the first that come to mind.

Marina
>>75449257

I had the same problem but then found it on sbs website. It's free but you get bloody ads. I just paused Cassie's end whenever the ads showed up.

Davis

Yes open range. It’s still the best opining to a gunfight ever

Matt Mabry

and for the ultimate, The Body Guard. Truly one of his best. He really did admire Whitney. And of course, For the Love of the Game.

Brother Who

Hmm something insightful you said "He's alone, shouldn't he be part of a pack?"

Jamie van Brewen

Thank you so much for reacting to this! I've been looking forward to it for a long time. I've read the novel by Michael Blake, which he wrote *after* writing the screenplay. There are a few things that I wish had made it into the final version of the movie that would have made some parts clearer. (Some of them were filmed but later cut.) One of them is the death of Stands-With-a-Fist's husband while on a war party. His body was not recovered. In a fit of sorrow, she tried to stab herself but was restrained. She then went off alone to mourn him. As she sang her song of mourning, she began cutting herself just to feel the something other than the pain of her heart. She began to cut deeper. Realizing she was now bleeding out, she resigned herself and was prepared to let the darkness take her. That was when John Dunbar came upon her. A few other things that some people might have already pointed out by now: The woman who played the wife of Ten Bears was an actress and activist named Doris Leader Charge. She was one of the very few people still living who could still speak the Lakota language and translated all the Lakota characters' lines for the movie. This proved slightly awkward later because it turns out Lakota has essentially different dialects for men and women, so all the male Lakota are talking like women! (I like to think Doris had a good laugh over that!) In the scene where the boys try to capture Cisco and the one boy is hurt, one of the other says when his father finds out "his bow will be across my back." My understanding (anyone who knows differently, feel free to say) is that the Lakota never used corporal punishment on their children, at least not until Europeans "civilized" [sarcasm] them. One thing I wish Kostner had done is to refer to the people as "Lakota," which is their actual name that they call themselves and that you can hear any time the subtitles say "Sioux." Of course, early on that's how he would have known them, but once he began learning the language, I wish he had switched to "Lakota." "Sioux" is an exonym imposed on a group of tribes, including the Lakota and Dakota, by Europeans. At some point, European explorers of fur traders or someone asked a neighboring people, the Ojibwe, who those people were and they told them "Nadouessioux" which I would guess means something like "strangers," "foreigners," or maybe something disparaging like "dogs." That seems to have happened a lot with regard to first encounters between First Nations and Europeans and it’s why in most cases the name by which we Europeans know a Nation is not the name they use for themselves. To be clear, I'm not anything like an expert on any First Nations language or culture, so I welcome correction from anyone who is.

Aaron

Cisco and Two Socks get me every time.

Tyler Foster
>>75622755

This is an interesting comment because I watched the movie for the first time a couple of weeks ago via the Shout! Factory Blu-ray, which is the most recent edition of the film, and the Native Americans are referred to as the Lakota, and watching the YouTube edit of DWW I saw references to the Sioux that I don't remember. It's possible that this newer disc went ahead and corrected the references to the tribe.

Biggman83

Need to get myself a copy of the theatrical cut. I only have access to the Extended version or a cut for TV version, which is missing too much of what your reacting too

Jamie van Brewen
>>75622755

Really? That IS interesting. I had it on VHS back in the 90s and the subtitles always said Sioux. That's great if they did change it. I'll have to find the Blu-ray version now. (Am I really going to get a whole new version just for one word? Hmmm... I just might.)

Jamie van Brewen
>>75378804

Yes. Such ceremonies were very important because they really believed that this was what caused things in nature to happen. It had to be done exactly right and any deviation from the formula could ruin the whole ritual. When Dunbar rode into the camp, from their point of view this already suspicious stranger had just crashed the party and polluted their entire ceremony.