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All the Presidents Men (1976) - Full Reaction (Patreon)

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Ookkk quick reminder-Canadian school system over here. We did learn American history but never had to memorize presidents or anything. Ok disclaimer over.... I love an investigative drama,  Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman were so good, I thought the storytelling was really well done. Great start to Popcorn Potus Week!

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Mark Vaderr

Julie has been very eager for you to watch this. Looking forward to it.

AC5555

What was it like in school when it comes to Canadian history?? What did you guys focus on in school?

djKENTO

I’m 40 and they never taught us about Nixon. At most they had us memorize all the presidents names in order in like 5th grade but it’s useless knowledge. They definitely didn’t teach us about watergate. Hell we barely learned about slavery. American education paints American history and the actions of our government in a hyper positive light. You never learn about controversy or racism or law breaking. It’s nuts.

Patrick Gibbs

Now you HAVE to watch “Dick” with Kirsten Dunst and Michelle Williams. Such a hilarious parody of this movie!!

Stick Figure Studios

For my money, this is the best film ever made about investigative journalism. A taut, top-notch, supremely well-crafted, intelligently writtena and visually stylish suspense-thriller about one of the most notorious crimes ever committed by a sitting president. Redford and Hoffman look more attractive than the real Woodward and Bernstein, but their performances are flawless. Watergate was certainly one of the most shocking scandals in the history of our country, but director Alan J. Pakula and screenwriter William Goldman also turn it into compelling drama. So many memorable characters (Deep Throat), memorable shots by the late great cinematographer Gordon Willis (that overheard angle in the library), memorable scenes and memorable lines ("Follow the money") from this movie. Truly one of the great American films of the 1970s. So glad you got a chance to see it. Can't wait to see your reaction.

Jason Chirevas
>>129828805

Speaking as a former journalist, ATPM, as much as I love it, is the second-best movie about investigative journalism. SPOTLIGHT is the best.

Jason Chirevas
>>129828216

Just to balance that out, I’m 49, went to public school in NY, and we learned about slavery, racism, the Holocaust, and other blights on history. Maybe it depends on where you are…?🤷‍♂️

Gábor Árki

I have never seen this movie but really looking forward to it. Sadly, I'm off for the weekend, so it will have to wait until the next week. Also, I would like to add that I'm glad to see some 70s movies got a reaction recently. This decade produced many brilliant films, but I feel they became very overlooked. They are too recent for including in the "classics" polls, yet too old to have a chance at winning a regular one against more recent entries.

Gary Giaimo

I've watched a ton of your reactions, and I have to say, this was the most entertaining and engaging one to date. I can't really put my finger on why, but a real highlight to watch along reactions, full stop. It might help that this is one of the greatest movies ever made, but who am I to say? Some recommendations based on your watch here. Three Days of the Condor, another government conspiracy movie starring Robert Redford. JFK. ANOTHER government conspiracy movie starring your boy Kevin Costner. And Kramer vs. Kramer, which has absolutely nothing to do with the government, but a real highlight in Dustin Hoffman's career. Anyway, great work here, ladies!

Steve Mercier

Still one of the best detective stories ever told.

Brian Harris

BRADLEE: I’d like to know more about Deep Throat. CASSIE: I’d like to know more as well! You and every single American for over thirty years 😂 It was one of the biggest mysteries in American politics for decades. Just before Deep Throat died, he revealed his real name and Woodward confirmed it. It was Mark Felt, and he was Deputy Director of the FBI. Very important and powerful person. But the speculation was bonkers for decades. My dad always thought it was Haldeman, which made zero sense but was a fun theory. Nixon was impeached, but he resigned before there could be a trial. Journalism is very different today. I think the scariest difference is that today, the bad guys are more brazen. They don’t care if they get caught. Nixon’s party turned on him when he was impeached. As we’ve discovered, it doesn’t work that way today.

Johnny Liu

this film is a masterpiece.

Clay F

I never get tired of watching that movie.

Jason Chirevas
>>129835407

Quick historical correction… President Nixon was not impeached. He resigned after GOP leaders told him he wouldn’t have support if he was impeached.

Jason Chirevas

Loved the reaction. Couple tidbits… Investigative journalism, properly done, is not that different today from what you saw here. The internet does play a big part, of course — in research, sourcing data, etc. — but there are still phone calls and face-to-face conversations, meetings where neither party will be seen, and connecting dots through multiple sources, documents, and confirmations. Carlie at one point asked why Woodward ID’d himself so quickly on the phone. That’s to make sure the person knows they’re talking to a reporter, which means anything they say will be “on the record,” or directly attributable to them. When Woodward tells DT anything he says will be on “deep background,” he’s saying DT’s info will be used to develop the story further rather than used directly in the story.

Dave Sees Movies

Yes! One of my top five movies! Thank you, Cassie! We had Bob Woodward speak at my journalism school. It was awesome (even if he's not my favorite investigative reporter, ha).

REDR58

Looking forward to watching the reaction later on today. Speaking of 1970s movies with Robert Redford, check out “Three Days of the Condor” from 1973. It’s an excellent spy thriller I think you might enjoy.

sharkey197

For years, the identiry of Deep Throat was a closely guarded secret. But it turned out to be Mark Felt, who was at the time the deputy director of the FBI! So, yes, someone who definitely knew what was going on. Woodward never revealed the name. Felt revealed it to his family on his deathbed.

Tara

Dave would be a good movie to watch with Carly

sharkey197

Wow you ladies did an excellent job of following this very complicated story! To add some background, Nixon resigned because his fellow party members told him he would be impeached and likely convicted in the senate and removed from office. He resigned to stave off that happening. Gerald Ford then pardoned Nixon because he felt the country had to move on from the whole scandal. Nixon was never convicted, although evidence showed that he was at the head of the whole conspiracy. The covert operations were not done to rig the election, but to discredit the Democrats in such a way that they would then be running against a weak candidate. Viet Nam was raging during this time and it was felt that Nixon needed an edge since the war was so unpopular. This was the biggest political scandal to have happened up to this time and these young reporters broke the story without internet, cell phones, and using manual typewriters! Pretty impressive. Of course, compared to what is going on with politics today, Watergate looks almost quaint. I guess we never do learn from history. By the way, Cassie, 13 Days is also based on a real life episode and it meticulously told in the movie. Dave, however, is fiction! Thank you for doing these films.

3dbadboy1

Nixon 'would' have been indicted and convicted but President Ford gave him a Presidential Pardon covering ALL illegal activities.

Just Plain Bob

Great film about a turbulent time in our nation’s history and a fantastic reaction. I thought the ladies’ ignorance of this chapter in American history was perfect for their reaction, since most of what was divulged was new to them. (I don’t mean the use of the word “ignorance” in a pejorative manner. I know almost nothing of Canadian history and understand why they aren’t fully versed in American history.) In my opinion, this movie (and the book on which it was based) captured the evolution of an investigation very well. It particularly reflected the difficulties of an investigation that is heavily reliant on witness testimony as opposed to other forms of evidence. For more than twenty years, I worked for my state’s Comptroller’s office conducting investigations of allegations of public corruption. Generally, we tended to categorize our investigations as either “shoe leather” investigations (heavily reliant on witness interviews/testimony) or “paper” investigations (heavily reliant on documents such as disbursements journals, payroll registers, cash receipts journals, etc). Of course, there was a great deal of overlap – every investigation I ever conducted involved both witness interviews and lots of paper. I always preferred the paper cases for the simple reason that the documents did not change (at least, they didn’t change once they were stored in our evidence room). And, if there was more than one version of a document, that was evidence in and of itself. But, with shoe leather cases, you never knew when a witness would recant or simply become reticent to recount what they knew. For that reason, any time we conducted an important interview (particularly an admission seeking interview), we would always make sure that two investigators were present. That way, if someone later changed their story, at least we had two people that could bear witness to what was said in the interview. Most difficult was when a person’s story evolved; which was not unusual. Frequently, they were intimidated or even scared. It took time to overcome their reluctance to tell the full truth. This often meant that we had to conduct several interviews of the same witnesses. Of course, that also afforded defense attorneys an opportunity to point out that those witnesses had changed their story over time, damaging their value as witnesses. One technique that I relied on was very well depicted in the film: pretending to know something that you only suspected. In this way, the person being interviewed believed they were off the hook in terms of “betraying the confidence” of people they probably considered friends. After all, you already knew what they had to say. It also broke down the walls of denial. They came to believe that you knew more than you did, which made them also believe that deception and obfuscation were useless.

Alex Gorell

I love this movie. It reminds us of how vital a free press is in a democracy. To be able to hold our representative accountable for their actions.

Mojo One Thousand

Enjoyed revisiting this, hadn't seen it in a long time. Enjoyed the reaction ladies! The feeling of suspense seemed quite palpable in PiB bed. However, I do feel sorry for Jack Warden, this is at least the 4th of his movies, but he is still "the other guy". He played "Harry", the Metro editor that had the boy's backs from the start. The other movie reactions are: 12 Angry Men, While You Were Sleeping, The Replacements. To be fair, the movies span from the '50s to the late '90s, so his change in age would a factor. One day, there will be a time when it goes from "the other guy" to maybe "the mean, old team owner from The Replacements" (or something similar)...

Julie
>>129827807

Yep! So happy to wake up and see this had dropped last night. I now know what I’m going to be doing tonight 😁

MikeLL

What riveting reaction. You ladies seemed engrossed throughout, as was I, even though this is a movie I just don't watch over and over again, I haven't seen it in a long time. I've been a political junkie all my life and disdain that I can't talk about politics in public anymore, it has all become so divisive. But as a young teenager in the '70's I watched some of the Watergate hearings live on TV and saw Nixon resign on that Thursday night. Despite all his failings and whatever missteps he made, he was undoubtedly one of the greatest Presidents of my lifetime ("Only Nixon could have gone to China": Star Trek VI), one of only a very few. He won 49 states in '72, a massive electorial landslide, and was gone just two short years later.

Popcorn In Bed
>>129840216

WOW!! I actually had that thought jump into my mind last night, i was like they never told us who deep throat was?!

Zane From Canada

To me, the scene that perfectly surmises the gravity of the whole movie is when Woodward and Bernstein are in the library. The camera slowly zooming out metaphorically showing just how small these two are in the grand scheme of things. And FYI, Pierre Elliot Trudeau was the Canadian Prime Minister in 1972. The father of our current PM, Justin Trudeau.

Ben Livingstone

The wrong Ms. Abbott is played by Allyn Ann Mclerie, who was "The Crazy Woman" in JEREMIAH JOHNSON. Plus, you've got two guys from TWELVE ANGRY MEN in the editorial staff!

Randolph Tirazona

I had forgotten about this movie. But here's one that popped into my head when I saw this one: "Paper Moon" (1973) Another Great Show!!!

Randolph Tirazona

😀Cassie?!?😀 So we know you love Rocky! So have you and "Him" watched it together?!? Back in the day we used to have a saying: "A Kodak Moment" - which is/was a moment in time for 'the perfect picture.' We also know that your mom apparently called you Adrian! 😀 That can mean only one thing that she too watched it and also loves Rocky! So have you two watched it?!? That'd be a Kodak Moment!

Bill Hayden

Gonna be a bunch of names to keep track of in this movie.

D. T. Nelson

Nixon resigned to avoid impeachment, which was pretty much a certainty by that point. A good follow-up movie to this one is Frost/Nixon.

Anthony Perez

Dig it...CASSIE, the Queen of Rom-Com, has turned into a courtroom and now investigate movie FAN girl. I love it. Far out. (that's how we used to talk in 1972). And as for Cassies question "who's not corrupt?"....POPCORN IN BED that's who.

Thomas Thompson

And that’s cinema! The Graduate, Dustin Hoffmans breakout role and Three Days Of The Condor 70s spy thriller starring Robert Redford. And for more advanced cinephiles Midnight Cowboy starring Dustin Hoffman.

Clay F

Ben Bradlee (1921-2014) was editor (1965-1991) of The Washington Post (WaPo). He became a public figure when the WaPo joined The NYT in publishing the Pentagon Papers, and when he gave the go-ahead for WaPo's extensive coverage of the Watergate scandal in the 1970s. He was born in Boston and went to Harvard. He served in the navy in WWII in the Pacific. As a reporter in the 1950s, Bradlee became close friends with then-senator John F. Kennedy, who had graduated from Harvard two years before Bradlee, and lived nearby. In recognition of his work as editor of the WaPo, Bradlee won the Walter Cronkite Award for Excellence in Journalism in 1998. Bradlee was named as a recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Barack Obama in 2013.

Zachary K. (Swiftie)

So if I RFK would have never been assassinated none of this would have ever happened. Often regarded as a America's lost president. Here he is announcing his candidacy on March 16, 1968. Shocking in it's clarity. Heartbreaking to know he would be dead three months later and Nixon would win the presidency. https://youtu.be/aePsa4sSTY8?si=Q-RgEvK7JB_uDfZf

REDR58

A little bit of trivia, the security guard that is seen early on finding the unlock door is played by a man named Frank Wills who is the actual guard who found the unlocked door that started this whole thing. Sadly, he did not have an easy life and died at the age of 52.

Jesus F Christ

Cassie, if you want to see a movie with both Robert Redford and Brad Pitt, you and Carly should watch Spy Game (2001). It is a good Cold War/Post-Cold War thriller with a love story and some humor, co-starring Redford and Pitt. Another Redford/Pitt movie is A River Runs Through It (1992), starring Pitt but directed by Redford, adapted from the semi-autobiographical novel of the same name. Here's a plot summary for both: A River Runs Through it: "Two sons of a stern minister - one reserved, one rebellious - grow up in rural 1920s Montana while devoted to fly-fishing. " Spy Game: "Retiring CIA agent Nathan Muir recalls his training of Tom Bishop while working against agency politics to help him"

Brian's Dog

Those two guys worked like twenty times harder than I do at my job.

REDR58

Another good Redford movie is “All is Lost” from 2013.

REDR58

I don’t expect people from other countries to know a thing about Nixon or Watergate, but it is a travesty that it’s not taught in all US high schools.

Larry Darrell
>>129829871

A Great reason why I have recommended having films put into polls by decades or at most two decades per poll. Especially for the Pre-1970s. In all Fairness for all Films.

DAVID COSTELLO

The Post is also a good reporting movie involving Nixon.

Tom Moore

A Redford movie that would hit most of your hotspots is “The Way We Were” with Barbra Streisand.

Carol_White

Jason Robards is the fucking man.

Robert da Spruce

Nice reaction ladies! I like the new set! Lighting looks better. You and CarI don’t look sunburned anymore. I think you can go ahead and start bringing in the decorations to personalize the space. But it’s looking good so far! 👍 I had never watched this film before. Of course I mostly knew the story from growing up in the U.S. But the film really brought it to life. I don’t know how accurate everything is, but I enjoyed the movie.

Larry Darrell

I knew that typing in the beginning was going to get ya'll. I always forget to lower my volume, and it always comes as a surprise because you don't know when it's going to hit. All the President's Men (1976)... nominated for 8 Academy Awards, including Best Picture. Winning 4, including Best Supporting Actor to Jason Robards and Best Writing to William Goldman. One of those films you watch at least once a year. The director of this film, Alan J. Pakula, is one the greatest from his generation. David Fincher has even noted him as an influence, and that fact is evidential when you watch their films. Even Carly noted how much this film reminded her of Zodiac (2007). some other Alan J. Pakula films... Klute (1971)... an Investigative Thriller starring Jane Fonda and Donald Sutherland. Fonda won an Oscar for Best Actress. Ya'll may remember this film being personally recommended to you by Christopher McQuarrie at the Mission Impossible Premiere. The Parallax View (1974)... another Investigative Thriller starring Warren Beatty, Hume Cronyn and William Daniels. This is one of my favorites. A Must Watch. Presumed Innocent (1990)... and another Investigative Thriller. This time with a Courtroom setting... starring Harrison Ford, Raul Julia and Bonnie Bedelia. This one has been on a Poll a time or two, I believe. The Pelican Brief (1993)... and yet another Investigative Thriller (Pakula does them well)... starring Julia Roberts, Denzel Washington and Sam Shepard. Based on a book written by John Grisham, who also wrote the novels The Firm, The Client (not seen), A Time to Kill, The Rainmaker (not seen) and Runaway Jury. Pakula also does Romances pretty dern well, too. Ranging from Comedic to Very Dramatic... (I won't tell which is which ;-) Love and Pain and the Whole Damn Thing (1973)... starring Maggie Smith and Timothy Bottoms. Comes a Horseman (1978)... a Western starring Jane Fonda, James Caan, Jason Robards and Richard Farnsworth, which of whom was nominated for a Best Supporting Actor Oscar. Starting Over (1979)... starring Burt Reynolds, Jill Clayburgh and Candice Bergen. Both Actresses were nominated for Best Acting Oscars... Actress and Supporting Actress respectively. Sophie's Choice (1982)... starring Meryl Streep, Kevin Kline and Peter MacNicol. Nominated for 5 Academy Awards, with Streep winning Best Actress. This is an Absolute Must... Must See. And One Last film of Pakula's to note, because it may be of interest to you, Cassie... The Devil's Own (1997)... starring Harrison Ford and Brad Pitt. It's not the greatest or very fondly remembered film if you read about it. The cast is certainly the film's biggest draw. It ain't bad though. For your next Robert Redford, I echo everyone else... Three Days of the Condor (1975), for more 70s Mystery Thriller, or... for a Romantic Redford... Barefoot in the Park (1967), The Way We Were (1973), Out of Africa (1985) or The Horse Whisperer (1998). For your next Dustin Hoffman... Marathon Man (1976), for his "Condor" like 70s Thriller, written by President's Men writer, William Goldman. A Must See before watching Conspiracy Theory (1997), starring Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts... or, for a Romantic and Loving Hoffman... Kramer vs Kramer (1979) and Tootsie (1982). For your next Jack Warden, since this was your 4th... either Shampoo (1975), starring Warren Beatty, Julie Christie, Goldie Hawn and Lee Grant... or Heaven Can Wait (1978) starring Warren Beatty, Julie Christie and James Mason. There's some Romance in here Somewhere. or a more Comedic Warden... Being There (1979) playing the President opposite Peter Sellers' Gardener or Used Cars (1980) with Kurt Russell. If anyone was interested, the piece of Music that Woodward put on to mask the Bugs in the apartment, was "Concerto for Two Trumpets in C Major" by Vivaldi. My favorite collection of Classical Music works are Vivaldi's, "The Four Seasons." If you've never heard them, you should. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzE-kVadtNw Lastly... Cassie and Carly talking about phonebooks having not just your phone number, but also your address, made me think... They need to watch the Romantic Comedy... The Jerk (1979), with Steve Martin and Bernadette Peters. Then They will know what it really means to have your name in the Phonebook ;-)

Juley

Though I know this story very well, I was quite young when it happened. They had congressional hearings about it and they were broadcast on TV. I remember them being so boring. My parents explained to me that they were planning to impeach the president. I thought that meant they were going to throw peaches at him! Of course my parents explained what it meant. There was a lot more scandal that happened when the information came out about Nixon’s involvement. Nixon had a recording system in his office (and other rooms) that recorded every meeting and discussion for 2 years of his presidency. The Special Counsel (appointed by the Attorney General) who was investigating the President’s involvement subpoenaed the tapes. On a Saturday night, Nixon ordered the Attorney General to fire the Special Counsel, but the Attorney General refused and resigned. Then Nixon ordered the Deputy Attorney General to fire the Special Counsel. He also refused and resigned. Finally, the next in line fired the Special Counsel. They called it the Saturday Night Massacre. Nixon refused to turn over the tapes, but the Judge in the case ordered them to be released. Despite years of recording everything, 18.5 minutes had been erased. It was during a conversation Nixon had with Haldeman right after the Watergate break-in. One important thing about the whole saga is the impact it had on the American psyche. Back then, people weren’t as cynical about politicians. Politicians were more trusted. And Nixon had just been re-elected in a landslide when all of this came out. Americans felt very betrayed. It really changed the tone of politics forever. I remember watching Nixon fly away from the White House in a helicopter after he resigned. Even though I was so young, it was still pretty surreal. By the way, whenever anybody did an impression of Nixon, it was always of the time he said “I am not a crook,” when trying to deny everything. If you want to see some great Robert Redford romances, try Barefoot in the Park (1967) and The Way We Were (1973).

Wally Hartshorn
>>129847943

re: "He won 49 states in '72, a massive electorial landslide, and was gone just two short years later." Of course, some of the events covered by this movie might explain WHY he won 49 states.

Roland Petrik

Here in Germany (West Germany at the time) we followed the Watergate drama at school with our history teacher. I was 15 at the time and we were very political. A quote from my history teacher back then still describes my relationship to the United States today: "Everything you think about the United States is true. But never forget, the opposite is also true." I think you will really like the movie "The Post" with Tom Hanks as Ben Bradley (Woodward and Bernstein's editor-in-chief) and Meryl Streep as Katherine Graham, publisher of the Wahington Post.

Carol Rocha

Butch Cassidy & Sundance Kid. Robert Redford.

Matthew Folz

This was a great reaction. If you're looking for another Dustin Hoffman movie to watch, I'd recommend Sleepers. It's not- by any stretch of the imagination- an EASY movie to rewatch but I recommend it anyway. The cast is great (Billy Crudup from Almost Famous, Pitt, Hoffman, DeNiro plus a great lineup of character actors). It might actually be Pitt's best performance.

John Deardurff
>>129881524

A great movie on "The Pentagon Papers" is "The Post" (2017) with Tom Hanks playing Ben Bradlee and Meryl Streep playing Kay Graham (The first female publisher of a major American newspaper).

Biggman83

Love this movie…if it’s on I always end up sitting and watching it!

Daniel Fuchs

Hey cassie, watch this movies: outbreak (1995), The Towering inferno (1974), Meteor (1979), the day after tomorrow, 2012, mary Poppins (1964), Mamma mia (2008), sudden death

Tinkerbell

Hi Cassie, you asked who the guy in the parking garage is. His name was Mark Felt. He was the associate director for the FBI. Except for Woodward (probably) everyone only knew the source as deep throat until a Vanity Fair article in 2005. The name Deep throat is pretty much a legend in the publishing world and there had been lots of theories of who he really was. I know people will give you tons of suggestions for more Redford and Hoffman films, but I would like to suggest a film with more Jason Robards-how about Parenthood? Lots of good actors in that one.

Bert Towle

After watching Dave, you'll no longer wonder what that music was near the start of this film.

Eddie Perkins

I love movies that are based on true stories. Brubaker (1980) is a good true story starring Robert Redford. The movie Catch Me If You Can (2002) is another excellent true story starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Hanks. It's a crime/comedy Directed by Steven Spielberg. And Carly could watch them both.

3dbadboy1
>>129915843

Lol for the recommendation for Marathon Man, I hope you don't have a phobia of dentists lol.

Mike Lemon
>>130001218

Indictment: The McMartin Trial (1995) is the true story (minus a bit of time compression at the very end) of the longest trial in U.S. history. There is a full version up on YouTube if anyone wants to watch it.

Marcos

Oliver Stone's "Nixon" is worth watching at some point. Also, the podcast "Slow Burn" (the season about Watergate) is good if you want to learn more about the history.

Terry Yelmene

I love the fact that out of the entire Watergate conspiracy the two Canadians were bent out of shape over the memo the shared a Canadian! The best part was when Woodward and Bernstein report to Bradley that 'EVERYONE' was involved - Cassie and Carley don't realize "EVERYONE' INCLUDES NIXON!

JPDotCom23

Pierre Trudeau was the Prime Minister of Canada when this took place.

John Rybock

I don't recall if you've done Argo yet. While the movie is more CIA focused, it was known as "The Canadian Caper" as the Canadian government was instrumental in it. And the current PM's dad was the PM at the time.

JPDotCom23

You want to know more about Deep Throat, watch 'Mark Felt; The Man Who Brought Down the White House'

RP

You seen ‘Spy Game’? You’d love Spy Game. Redford and Pitt. 🍻

James Forrest
>>129962477

What a great suggestion mate, yeah they should both watch that I think they would absolutely love it.

Jason Dolan

Carly be like does Redford just have that red flag lying around and Cassie is like that's odd because I can't imagine Redford having ANY red flags....

Jacob King

This movie is such a great time capsule. I enjoyed the reaction even if my history nerd side was gritting his teeth at moments. An equally good journalism movie is Spotlight which has an incredible cast and devastating storyline. I also recently really enjoyed The Last Thing He Wanted on Netflix. Dick! is the other great Watergate movie with Michelle Williams and Kirsten Dunst in the role of Deepthroat. The thing about Watergate is the level of criminality and the idiocy and incompetence and malice of everyone involved is so off the charts bonkers that serious movies have to tone down the reality.

Jim

Deep Throat was a guy by the name of Mark Felt who worked for the FBI.