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Not the best week. I had trouble installing the old visual novel maker engine on the new pc and making it recognize the mantis application. I don't know why. With RenPy it was no problem when I ported Shadow over Blackmore over to the new device. Here with Mantis it took quite a while and honestly...I don't know how it suddenly worked, lol. It was just after a day of trying and a few restarts that it finally appeared.

Well, now I have started to work on the dialog, that is all that matters. I should be able to deliver it within the next two weeks! Fingers crossed, as always :)

Question of the week!

I have an interesting question for you guys, let us say I give you the following task: You have to make a Femdom Themed Game, but the catch is that it has to be eligible for the apple store, the google store and (german) steam! That means excessive xxx scenes are not really possible.

I think instead you would have to focus on relationship dynamics and some creativity when it comes to the erotic scenes in the game.

I think I would do a vampire relationship game. Where you end up as a familiar of a powerful vampire, and have to do deeds for her. I would add an erotic bloodsucking mechanic where you have to beg her not to drink too much, etc.

Maybe even serving an entire vampire family instead so you have a variety of mistresses to choose from.

I think that would have at least a chance to not get banned from the apple store :D

Do you have a better idea? What would your game be like? A succubus demon instead? A witch? Something entirely different?

Let me know, enjoy your sunday and

stay kinky!

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aviel zaken

I would give up on the Apple Store and make a regular renpy game. If someone wants to play it on iPhone he can just use the spark app that runs renpy games. Same as I did with shadow over Blackmore

unic

Hi! I don't quite understand how to make a femdom game with such conditions, without XXX content :). Maybe as few pictures as possible, mostly text? But your idea seems not bad.

PickerPatron

Another new game from Darktoz? 😱😄. 1. He has the Mantis one (which will be finished in less than a month). 2. Shadow over Blackmore. 3. The cyperpunk one, which I think was a very short project. 4. The vampire game mentioned in this post. If all the scenes are bloodsucking, the game won't have a problem with ban hammers. But the MC needs to be more like a blood doll, because if he were a real vampire, he would have the power to escape from the family and become independent 🦇🧛🏻‍♂️.

ecoShade

Well I guess the vampire idea has merit.

Deadmanfrank

I would just not make a game with the restrictions you said...

santito2023

Si se permite lenguaje sucio , obsceno y sugerentemente caliente , subiría el lenguaje entonces para intentar compensar las restricciones en las escenas . la pregunta es ¿ Cuan restrictivas serían esas escenas ' ¿Cual es el limite '

Darktoz

wow, i didn't know that this is possible. so you can run it on an iphone? with an appstore app called Spark?

aviel zaken

Yea I play most of renpy games like that, and the app is really good. I would suggest you make whatever you feel

Darktoz

right now 1 and 2 are the only ones that i have ;)

aviel zaken

Like and I can right the manual for you to add to the post

Darktoz

maybe bootworship and whipping would be possible...i am not sure

aviel zaken

I even managed to run karalsson gambit on iPad and it took some time but now it runs smoothly and it’s fun to play and it’s 10g game

Darktoz

i think it would also be possible with a demon...or a spider monster :D

Darktoz

i think if the language is too erotic it might get banned. depends on how often it is, i think

Darktoz

yeah understandable, it is most likely too limiting

Darktoz

i would be very interested in a manual!

aviel zaken

I’ll talk to you on discord, I’m on a vacation now but I’ll write it when I’m back

Robert A

no, I would not. I use german steam as well and I don't like those restrictions

PickerPatron

No please, I never want to go down to that basement in Blackmore again 😱💦, no more spider ladies.

PickerPatron

Yes, but the whipping probably must not be too bloody to pass.

Darktoz

that would be great! thanks!

Darktoz

yea i fkn hate it, germany has a long history of banning and ruining games. i remember in some command and conquer game they had to replace a terrorist faction with robots just to be able to sell in germany. and that is not even talking about them banning every single adult xxx game there is

Darktoz

and not too nude either

ecoShade

Both would be also working solutions for some ;)

Draupnir

i assume you want to reach a broader audiance? the question is, is it worth it. would creating a game under such restrictions even be fun? i personally would probably still like it. take your vampire pet idea and throw some non sexual humiliation in the ring like being turned into a sissy maid and being mistreated like a sub human. maybe being servant and abuse victim to a a whole family of female vampires. such things wouldnt be banned under steam would they?

HungryforApples

Regarding the game idea. I would just do a less of visual novel and more of a novel. You don't need a lot of visualization if you can bring the story to life via text. You could even replace some words or do some filter for it to be eligible for sales on those platforms. Also if I could choose the theme it would be SCP where you are a class-D personel in service of some succubus/demon/entity female SCPs 😉

mrx

I think getting a game on Steam with the current restrictions is very, very hard. I was already wondering 1 or 2 years ago when suddenly the few femdom games were no longer listed... By the way, I still have one or two ideas, but I can write them to you privately if you like. (In german ofc)

KelvinOmáčka

What spark app pleas ? I dont see any on App Store at least not in czech App Store :/

Darktoz

i think the sissy maid thing would already be banned, at least on the mobile stores. in the end i think it would have to be mostly verbal humiliation like you say...

Darktoz

the thing is that these restrictions are not from steam but from the german government. other countries can buy femdom games on steam...german users just can't see them. it says something like "this is not available in your country"

Darktoz

i am not sure but i think if the novel is categorized as erotic and mainly about sex/bdsm it would still be banned, especially on mobile stores. yes, succubus sounds good, i thought about that theme as well

Lost Soul

What? Really is it all erotic content or just Femdom stuff? Surely it can’t just be femdom stuff they don’t like.

Frank Kuschmann

No, it's not only femdom games. Not even all 18+ games are blocked for Germans but only the so-called adult games that include sex scenes. it isn't bad at all in the eyes of our government if children play a bloody violent game where they can kill NPCs, but they aren't allowed to look at a naked woman. And it applies only to Steam (and DLSite), there are hundred of other porn sites they can still watch.

Frank Kuschmann

I join Ivan Shishkov's opinion. If you want to release a game at Steam that's not getting blocked immediately for us Germans then you have to avoid mainly visual sex scenes. I remember a game "Cobra Mission" I was playing very long time ago that you could buy in a German game store without to show your ID-card to the seller, even though it was a real hardcore sex game. Because the developer described these hardcore sex scenes only as text and avoided to show them visually. So the German censorship authorities failed to recognize that. But I think, even so, such a game will be blocked regardless some days later, after the true content has spread. The only other option I see is to create a censored version for Steam and offer an adult-patch for free on your own website. At this way us Germans can buy the censored adult games from Kagura Games at Steam, and need only to install the free downloadable patch from the Kagura site afterwards.

Frank Kuschmann

You can also create a 16+ game of course if you have a really good and exciting idea in your mind. I was playing already some really outstanding games that are enabled from the age of 16 years old, for instance "Kingdom Come: Deliverance" or "The Witcher" series. Okay, "The Witcher" is a 18+ game but it's not blocked.

Darktoz

ouh, the sex patch is an interesting idea, i haven't even thought of that one

Darktoz

yes, baldurs gate 3 is similar. i wonder how much content is allowed before it is no longer an rpg but an erotic game...

Zoltán

I always found the lack of dominant female vampire - sub male perplexing. There are literally thousands of games, books, films with the opposite combination, and barely any with this. Making it a vampire family, and having to balance on keeping our blood, would add an interesting challenge. An "Interactive family blood-pack" if you will. :)

Darktoz

exactly what i was thinking

NotTheBatmanWeDeserve

There's an effed up visual novel style game series called "nope nope nurses" for which the dev simply put the lewd patch on itch.io. The original game has no explicit scenes, whatsoever, but I found the hint how to "unlock" the content on the steam forum. Maybe that's a way to sneak in something more than friendzone and cuck bs. To quote my best friend, my pal, my home-boy, my rotten soldier, my sweet cheese, my good-time boy and all-time favourite vampire, Laszlo Cravensworth: "Everyone fucks and sucks!"

PickerPatron

I'm going to say something crazy, please don't crucify me, but this new vampiress with those beautiful green eyes 💗 is more beautiful than our white-haired vampiress in Blackmore (Bellatrix). OK, I said it, time to run before I get caught and punished 😈.

Darktoz

ui, interesting. nope nope nurses might be exactly what i am looking for and it is available on german steam. i also think a post patch might be the way to go

DarkFlame

I think its better not to worry too much about conforming to standards of the apple store. Remember that games can take years to make and theres no guarantee that the community standards wont change by the time your game is finished and now you cant release what you have spent years working on to the platform you were specifically designing it for. Maybe Im just being pessimistic but with YTs demonetization getting stricter every year and Patreons recent crackdown against certain nsfw subjects its important to remember that the rules are constantly changing, so I think rather than trying to aim for a specific platform and aim to their rules, just make the game that you want to make and then find the platform best for it.

Frank Kuschmann

I won't ever understand their criterias. But no matter what their reasons, I curse all censorship and those who carry it out.

Frank Kuschmann

Winged Cloud and Kagura Games do it like that for many years now, even already before Steam decided to block us Germans. I always hoped that more developers would do it at this way but unfortunately those two game developers or distributors remained the only ones.

Darktoz

yes, very, very good point!

Stephen

Bro wtf? Femdom is hot, the vampire, succubus, [insert monster of the week] is hot and all but that's just side dish. The meat and potato's is always going to be the femdom angle and you do that pretty well so stop stressing.

Darktoz

i am not stressing, all i did was asking

Mike

I have to admit I'm more drawn to things that aren't pure fantasy, something you can at least imagine happening in real life, even if it's very unlikely. One might be wandering into an art gallery of sculptures, and eventually learning that the sculptor uses live bodies to create the pieces.

Darktoz

so they are still alive, i assume?

Sklavestephan Backup

Maybe something that you could include into your daily real-life. Like the vampire mistress gives you tasks you could do in real life, too, or decides whether you have a wear a cage or not (or get out or not). Like if your stats of behaving are higher, your chances of a release are higher, too. Maybe in combination with a metronome like in Fap Queen? But I don't know how realistic and (umsetzbar?) it is.

Sklavestephan Backup

But whatever you do, it will be great! You're games are always awesome ;)

Darktoz

not familiar with the metronome in fap queen, is that like a minigame?

Mike

It depends on what you can get away with in the creating the game. But I hope you understand what I mean. You do great work and Shadow is incredible, but for me the best one was Asylum because 1. It was a good combination between story and video game 2. It was entirely possible so it helped with the immersion of picturing it happening to yourself while you played the game. I know it contained some sci-fi when it came to the brainwashing, but overall you could easily put yourself into the role of the main character.

Sklavestephan Backup

Yeah, kinda. There's a beat which says how fast you can touch or punch or whatever. And you can ask for a release and sometimes you are allowed and sometimes you aren't and get punished for asking