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Patreon Policies, Tina, BDSM Gladiator

  • Do Saragoth next! Go big or go home! 31
  • Do BDSM Gladiator next! That setting sounds awesome! 138
  • 2017-10-25
  • 169 votes
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I have received some Emails in the last days about adult patreon creators worrying about the future (Openlettertopatreon.com for those who want to read it). Patreon has updated its policies, making it easy for them to ban everyone who is creating related content to bestiality, incest, sexual depiction of minors, and suggestive sexual violence. And while I'm thinking that patreon is going to be busy banning all the incest games first before they are going to ban me for sexual violence content, I have to admit that this is worrying for every adult content creator. Adult games have been somewhat unaffected because the policy states that stories and fiction are allowed, but you never know...and for someone who tries to make his games immersive, it is kind of hard to know where patreon draws the line.

The part that protects adult games from that policy is kind of vague: "We understand that some topics on this list such as incest or rape are a little bit more complicated because these situations are, unfortunately, part of real life. As a result, when reviewing this type of content, the Trust and Safety team will take into consideration context including personal, historical or educational narrative. For example, survivor stories or fiction such as Game of Thrones or Lolita are allowed on Patreon."

So, while I think I'm not in trouble, there is a chance that tomorrow an overzealous patreon employee closes down my patreon page. If that's going to happen, just go to darktoz.com...I'll figure something out ;)

Now, to the more fun part! The asylum is making progress! I have just finished some Tina scenes and looked up her script...she is the only one right now that doesn't have an ending sequence on day 5. It makes sense because you just met her on the last few seconds of day 3...but I don't know...feels kind of bad. Let me know what you think and if she should get her own ending sequence (remember, that will also mean more dev time).

I have some doubts about the big project Saragoth. It might be coming too early. I still have to learn a lot of things as a game dev, and maybe another small project, just like the asylum, would be better. As you know by now, I have a lot of games up my sleeve, and I happen to have one that is similar to the asylum (happens mostly in one place, fewer characters, fitting femdom scenario) but also involves combat and has a very interesting setting. Well, a picture is worth a thousand words so...

I am still unsure. But currently I think BDSM Gladiator is the better option because I can narrow the setting down (Ludus, Domina chambers, arena and so on...instead of going for a whole fantasy world ;) which means fewer assets to buy (and therefore better quality ones). I have opened a quick poll, just so you can let me know what you think (no, that doesn't mean that I will end up doing what you voted for)...we still have some time until the Asylum is done...so no pressure ;)

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Darktoz

Ah shit, I forgot something: Thank you so much for 300 Supporters!

Darktoz

And stay kinky! Forgot that one too :D

Sianki

Me first! Whatever you find more liking and feel more comfortable with!

Darktoz

That's a difficult one, because in my sick mind I'm ready to make the next triple A BDSM title that will shake the world :D. Everyone told me that you have to make 10 games first before even thinking about releasing one to the public...and I took my first game ever made (BDSM Tournament) and started patreon right away :D. Sometimes I'm just overconfident and have to be reminded that it is better to take one step after the other :)

A

Yes! BDSM Gladiator sounds awesome! Please say some of those gladiators have strapons?

A

Honestly I would vote for BDSM Gladiator over any of the ones in the poll. (Even over my favorite the Futa Pimp). A roman period piece, femdom combat, Similar scope as Asylum... Sign me up! But would this be in lieu of the poll-decided game (probably mistress of manor) or after it? Before it?

A

Also, just to help keep patreon off your back you should add a disclaimer on all your games and at the top of your patreon explaining how all characters in your world are engaging in a consensual role-playing activity. That's what dofantasy comics do to avoid censorship based on non-con content.

Darktoz

@A: So you think that just so you guys can have pegging scenes in my fantasy/medieval setting games I would search all the places possible for the right assets to build a medieval strap-on? One that looks really mean but awesome at the same time? Only an experienced, perverted freak of a patreon creator could do such a thing.... ;) <a href="https://darktoz.deviantart.com/art/Fantasy-Strap-On-711713513" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://darktoz.deviantart.com/art/Fantasy-Strap-On-711713513</a>

Darktoz

I already have a disclaimer that all my characters are fictional. I have thought about letting myself appear as a skeleton before the game starts and after the game ends...stating that it's all just a story. But honestly I think you can clearly see that my stories are pure fiction...

Darktoz

It will most likely be a parallel process. BDSM Gladiator and Saragoth will both be RPG Maker games, the short stories will be visual novels. There is a new Visual Novel software coming out, and the next short stories will be made with it so I can get comfortable with it and see if it is any good for future games...

A

But it's fiction graphically depicting something "obscene". I know it's not fair, if it's fiction then who cares. Unfortunately some people do. By saying that your fiction is portraying consensual role-playing (something legal even if done in real life) you give yourself an extra layer of protection. Your fiction isn't portraying rape/incest/what-ever the moral police think is too extreme or fringe, it's portraying consensual role-playing among adults. Something that's legal to do in real life and thus can't possibly be too extreme to portray in fiction.

A

OMG! XD YES!

Jason Parker

Only reason im not first is because this was posted while I was asleep

A

I don't think Tina needs her own ending sequence. We've already developed relationships with the other wardens. One of them that we've had to "seduce" over the course of several days should be our ending. I mean, extra content is great and everything, but the wardens we've already met and developed relationships with should take priority.

Vincanity

The BDSM Gladiator is absolutely the way to go!! That looks amazing, the potential for that story line is epic. Just thinking of the different story lines, scenarios and characters that that kind of game could have... I love it! It's got my vote for sure!

Darktoz

Ok, so how do I make that clear? How do the dofantasy comics make that clear? Justby putting another disclaimer in my games? By a small intro and outro?

Batou

A bad ending with Tina could be fun

Darktoz

Well, she is the auctioneer at the bad end slave auction...so technically she already got that ;)

Darktoz

Looks like you're not the only one :)

Malakaison

BDSM gladiator is the right choice, or at least the more logical right now. First of all, part of the invest made for it can be re-used in the big game. Also It could be used as a beta. Even more, I think that a big project like Saragoth is easier to made slowly rather than investing a huge effort in a (relatively) short time, especially because you dont have a big team with you. Am I ansious to see Saragoth? Yes Would I prefer to wait? Also yes.

A

Usually by having the characters talk about how much they enjoyed their role-playing. First a disclaimer that even the fictional characters are engaging in role-playing, then an outro with some of the characters talking about how much they enjoyed their game and explaining that everyone consented to it and the importance of consent. (All the things the moral police are looking for). Just one picture with speech bubbles is how Dofantasy does it. It needn't be a whole detailed animated scene. If that outro and disclaimer were front and center on your patreon page, I bet it would make your patreon a lot safer from censorship. You can make one template, put it on your patreon page and copy it into all your games and visual novels.

Vincanity

Indeed it does!!

Zhríx

I agree with anything you choose to do because I am just so grateful for these games and I love them, and I must say BDSM gladiator sounds amazing. We can wait for Saragoth if it means it could be even better and we get an awesome game in the meantime!

Darktoz

Yes, looks like a win-win situation ;)

Zhríx

With day 4 coming up, I'd like to know I haven't missed anything. On the 3rd day when I go to Selina, she just says she has to go and leaves, but I think there might be a planned escape for her aswell? Also, what's the shower scene a lot of people talk about?

Darktoz

yes there is an ending planned with Seline. You need to agree to help her with her website, being her slave on camera, then you're good to go for day4. The shower scene triggers when you shower too often. On day 1 and 2 this cene stays the same, on day 3 it is different...

Zhríx

I wanna thank you for being so close with your supporters and helping out whenever someone asks, really really awesome man! And I just played the shower scene, really awesome c: Glad I found this

Vincanity

Just out of curiosity, do you plan on releasing or posting a list of all the possible scenes you can discover in The Asylum? I'm pretty sure I've discovered most but I would love to make sure I can see every single scene possible!! :p

Darktoz

Mmh...would be a bit of work. With day 3 done 'The Asylum' already features over 50 scenes with almost 800 renderpictures. But sure, why not. Just let me finish Day 4 and 5 first :)

Vincanity

Dude, you're a legend!! It wouldn't have to be a guide on how to get to that scene, that's for the player to figure out... That's half the fun! But just a list like "Day 1 scenes - Selena has 3 scenes, Bonnie has 2 scenes", just so we know we have seen every scene in the game, given some girls may have different scenes depending on what answers you choose... Because that's my goal, to see every scene! :p