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AllenWalkerDaniel

What Metal Gear has taught me is never to trust anyone, especially women. 😕

Scuffed

"You sound a bit crazy there, Snake." Ha! Yeah. Yeah... Uh...

Jesus Santos

A lot of the humor isn't in the cutscenes in the game. It's actually the funniest and silliest game in the series but they're locked to audio logs so no actual animation portraying it. The ending is hinting towards the rest of the series since we're at the tail end of the Big Boss storyline. Be warned that this story and series is a lot darker in the main saga. The Big Boss storyline is actually the more lighthearted side since it features a lot of James Bond and 80s action movie tropes. Big Boss' speech at the end is the precursors for that since this is where he assumes the role of who is. As for the speech itself, we enter an ideological crossroads. You may have missed it, but Cipher is a reference to Zero. It's a 0 in binary code. Who else do we know by that name? Major Zero! Yes, he is the one behind the events of the last 2 games! Ocelot's speech at the end of PO is him talking to Zero and now Paz is contracted by him. See, Zero/Cipher/The Patroits want to control the world (as Paz explained) as a form of world peace via new technologies. Why? Because he believes that this is what the Boss wanted. The Boss being "resurrected" via AI is just another form of this. If she is the perfect soldier, the perfect soldier guards all lives - even the enemy, as she took the fall for Russia. She saved everyone as a sacrifice, so Cipher wanted AIs and Snake's army to basically sub in for that role on a global scale. On the other hand, Big Boss had another answer. He believed that the Boss' final moments was not just a sacrifice - she tested him to see if he was a stronger soldier. If he won, then he can determine for himself as the ultimate soldier -> this is the same logic as the idea behind Gene and Null on Portable Ops. Snake, as the ultimate warrior, has freedom in determining the fate of the world via action. But he is just a warrior, and soldiers are tools. They must obey orders, they are to be disposed of. The Boss was disposed once in life and a 2nd time as an AI. So Snake, in creating MSF, has created a nation where soldiers will never be disposed. But for that to happen, they must keep fighting. War must never stop, and they can never go home. Because home will abandon you, home will discard you. Thus, the ideology of Outer Heaven is born. The idea to keep the nuke. Snake has established a nation of soldiers for soldiers, free to fight as mercenaries all over the world. You don't have this extra context from the audio logs in the game, but if this sounds crazy or extreme to you...that's the point. We're witnessing the fall of Snake. We're witnessing the truth behind legends and hero worship. They are arguing over the will of the Boss. Zero chose the system. Snake chose the soldier. In the end, the irony is the Boss chose THE WORLD itself, twice.

Scuffed

Rectified.

Oh! That Robin

I always cry when Peace Walker sing's a song x,,,000 Also excited for MGSV, imo it's the least goofiest though so I'm gonna miss that for a bit lol xD Still it's a great ride! And I'm *suuuper* excited to start the Solid Snake Saga, that's gonna be legendary!!!

Oh! That Robin

Hey Boss, you, uh, you feeling alright?

FlameyLynx

Will never not wanna cry at the ending of the Peace Walker and how it replicated everything about the boss. A tool and weapon of mass potential destruction, equipped and deployed by the CIA, was entrusted with the fate of the entire world. When the world called for it, she'd pull the trigger. When the world called for it, she'd leave her comrades behind. And when the world absolutely called for it, she'd lay down and die to prevent mass devastation. Yet through it all, she was more than a weapon. She had a voice. And while she would never cry out in anguish or protest, she would sing so others may be inspired by her virtues. If ever there was a messiah that truly lived, walked, and died for peace, The Boss it. A truly whole human being. I love her so fucking much. Plus the titles of "The Boss," "The Joy," "The Mother of Special Forces," and now Ken's addition of "War mommy" is a big booster to her clout.

AlexThat200

Wednesday repeat vouch: - History of the HUGE crossover the West never got - by Top Hat Gaming https://youtu.be/itR6YGb9XDg?si=GJ4-NBsf9skae0rV - Poker Night at the Inventory conversations (Telltale Games) https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhDcJRCci7AxQWC38BXd9IOnvidbq21KF&si=uMTZg7F50xwB5YVX - Ori and the Blind Forest / Ori and the Will of the Wisps trailers https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLI_GlFRddq7JCKq8U2a80-owjl_aSJ4_8&si=uAhyHamsxmhre3Z2 - The Curious Case of KOS-MOS (related to Xenoblade) https://youtu.be/BOEFqkMcYlA?si=SkPXNQ79lBN4lSYI

FlameyLynx

Also, to help ring some bells on what Paz (aka Pacifica) was talking about, remember the key people back in MGS 3. The rest of series will constantly harken back to that game its fateful events. Paramedic Sigint EVA Major Zero Ocelot Naked Snake The Boss Paz referred to 2 young men that were inspired to follow the boss' vision for the world. She proclaimed that Cipher (a name that also means Zero) will unify the world like the Boss envisioned. Not by dissolving its borders but by controlling the information that sways the world. Meanwhile, Big Boss' interpretation is the freedom of people (mostly soldies) from the games of political struggle. Bethany referenced Hamilton with the "What will you fall for line" which is fitting because that IS essentially the idea. Soldiers that will live and die for the sake of just being soldiers. They don't want to be in the room where it happens, and will freely buck any decisions made behind closed doors that they disagree with. The different ways people interpret the will of the Boss is the constant motif of the series regarding the Big Boss saga. Also, this is probably the point where its most safe to just call him Big Boss. The naming schemes will only get more abstract from here lol

Razgriz

As the Metal Gear journey continues, I would strongly recommend to skip the next game canonically (Ground Zero and Metal Gear Solid 5). It was ment to be the final pin in the entire IP, and as a result it goes out of its way to answer every question and solve every mystery the franchise has ever made. And as you continue to things like Metal Gear Solid 1, 2 and 4, these games are full of mysteries, which knowing the answers might take away the charm. To get more enjoyment out of this overall that would be my recommendation.

Razgriz

Small backstory time as well for that dedication to "Project Itoh" He was a pretty big super fan of Metal Gear Solid, known for writting fan fictions online. This eventually got Kojima's attention and they started a friendship. Sadly however Itoh got cancer, but continued to work closely with Kojima on ideas for the what was Metal Gear Solid 4 at the time. There is a story inwhich Kojima snuck out an early build of the game to the hospital to show Itoh, who was allowed to write the official Metal Gear Solid 4 novelization. Sadly Itoh passed away days before the game offically released. The rumor goes that Kojima planned to hand over the IP to Itoh as Head Writer for all future games. I mention this because Itoh famously wrote 3 other books, that Kojima would help to push get official animated files in the years to follow that are all pretty good. They are "Genocidal Organ" (which did shape a lot of unoffical world building for Metal Gear), "Harmony", and "The Empire of Corpses".

Numenex

The ending of this game is pretty interesting as it's not setting up the next game chronologically MGSV since it came out way before before MGSV but it does set up Metal Gear 1 as in the first metal gear that came out in the 80's and the last speech by big boss is alluding to the events that will happen in that game

Definitely Not Definitive

😳 … 😱 We got the sense of the extreme ideology and the potential danger of how things were going but I don’t think we fully appreciated the extent of it all so thank you for sharing this with us!

Alloces

Light spoiler You say darker, meanwhile we have "do you think love can bloom in a battlefield"