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Jason Hallett

I think I get what Chris is saying about the bias, but in fairness Napoleon is not only leading an army of conquest/occupation, he's also: 1 -- turning a blind eye to gangs of his own men breaking into harems and abducting the women living there. 2 -- getting those same men killed in numbers that cause deep unease among his sub-commanders to pull off military victories that burnish his reputation. 3 -- ordering acts of violence to be carried out upon Egyptians which made European men in 1798 judge their boss to be excessively racist (which makes a mockery of his gestures toward tolerance for his Egyptian subjects). 4 -- abandoning the whole situation without orders to return to France so that the inevitable surrender will ruin someone else's career instead of his, even though the mission was his idea. Not every leader in his position would make those decisions. Ultimately, it's a question of authorial voice. It's possible to go over all that information and at the same time maintain a kind of kayfabe that never takes jabs at the subject, merely presents the facts and lets the audience do the judging, but I'm not sure if I can think of any examples of Extra History holding back in that way. Whether it's the array of Korean mendicants plaguing the career of Admiral Yi, the American president who was very unhelpful in dealing with the 1918 Flu Pandemic, or Frederick the Great's nasty dad, these guys have a history of saying exactly what they think of their subjects. TLDR: It is right and proper to be biased against Napoleon.

vth

And it would be perfectly acceptable to state all of those things. My issue is in areas of opinion or where we are unsure, they’re stating things as fact. Such as the guy who they said went into the desert and shot himself or stating that Napoleon was motivated by insecurity to do the things he did. We don’t know either of those things to be true. Stick to facts.