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This is a video I’ve wanted to make ever since people like Powell and Blair took to the stage and told us of the horrors of chemical weapons that could be deployed against the UK in less than 45 minutes from Iraq. Cos when you realize chemical weapons deployed against a city are only useful when its DEAD still, which of course is almost never the case in one of the windiest countries in Europe, the idea that a few hundred kg of nerve agent becomes kinda moot. The more so when you realize that if its dead still, you close your windows, and you are good for hours, maybe days. 

Chemical weapons have also historically been almost as much of a liability for the attackers as the defender. If you shell the enemy with chlorine, and the wind changes, its your troops that get it! Hell in most of the chlorine attacks the chemical that killed most of the defenders was lead, as they got out of the trenches to run away they got shot. If the enemy gets information that you are stockpiling for a chemical weapon attack (which was typically 20 tons in a ww1 attack), they shell you like crazy, because then all the chemical weapons are ruptured on your side of the line and so on. Further, for most chemical weapons, get the right sort of mask and you are completely immune. Its MUCH harder to become immune to bullets like this!

When you do a comparison of guns versus nerve agents as force amplifiers its quite interesting.

If I give a terrorist a gun with 100 bullets, he will typically kill about as many people as a bottle with 10kg of nerve agent, even though the nerve agent can in principal kill 500 000 people! 

LOTTA people didn’t like that conclusion, but if you look at the data, that’s about the correct relative observed deadliness of guns versus nerve agent.

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Why nerve gas really isnt as deadly as you think!

Japan recently executed the mastermind of the tokyo subway attacks. Its maybe a pertinent time to take a look at how deadly nerve agents are in the hands of a terrorist. The key fact that the tokyo subway attacks took expect chemists, 10 attackers and in the end only killed about 10 people, compared to say the Columbine shooters who by killed a comparable number of people with no particular skill or training. to support this channel: https://www.patreon.com/Thunderf00t

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Anonymous

The studies from WW I agree with you. The studies on the the Iran Iraq war also agree, however, in both cases the psychological impact is significant. Against civilians without protection or training this weapon is impressive due to the terror aspects.

Anonymous

Quite interesting results from a recent yougov poll. The Question was: Would you or would you not feel comfortable visiting Salisbury, where a chemical attack took place earlier this year, given that the police advise there is no risk to the public? The answers were pretty static 50:50 across the board regardless of age, social status, political views, or geographical region. The only real major difference was gender, where there was a 60:40 split. The effectiveness of e chemical weapon is not it's destructive power, but it's perceived destructive power which can lead to the breakdown of services on a local and regional level.

Anonymous

I disagree with the "comical" aspect of preventing tyrannical government. An easy way to "debunk" your rhetoric, is to imagine that NK citizens were suddenly allowed full access to weapons. Don't you think things would be a lot different?

Mr Train

Thunderf00t, since you're my expert on all things nuclear, I have a question for you. Why is it when I hear of nuclear bombs that explode or disasters that happen that release large amounts of radiation over a large area, experts say that an area will be uninhabited for the next x amount of years (usually they say something like 2000 years) and say it's based upon the half-life of blah blah blah (say plutonium). Yet 50+ years later (or even sooner), you see areas thriving and doing just fine. For example, look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki Japan, they are doing great. Or look at Chernobyl, with experts saying a long time ago that humans wouldn’t be able to enter that area for like hundreds of years or something. Yet, people can take tours of Chernobyl, and there are people who work in and around Chernobyl as a lifestyle. What’s the deal?