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...honestly I'd dodged this subject for so long since its so hard to tell reality from parody.  But its just crazy surreal to watch people seriously debate things that have been known about for hundreds of years, and are trivial to verify yourself.  Like for instance if the moon emits its own light.  Even a kids telescope will show you the shadows on the moon, and you can watch the shadows change over the course of a night, and certainly from day to day.  You can watch lunar mountain ranges emerge from the shadows and go back into them.

In this case these flat Earthers seem to even deny gravity. But even if you deny 'gravity' they surely must at least concede that objects fall when dropped.  After all that all you need to understand is a little of the kinetics of hard spheres and you can understand how planets hold onto atmospheres! 


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Anonymous

I wasn't expecting the material (or immaterial) that they were using to be much different from last. So whilst it was something different it wasn't any less easy to blow out of the water. "Violates natural law", yeah, his backward version of it maybe. My teachers always told me: don't reference Wikipedia, yet if this munchkin were to quickly look at it with comprehension then he wouldn't be making a crooked argument. I swear, it's Dunning Kruger severe.

Gavin Holdgate

Personally I don't feel that religious people are any more or less ludicrous than flat earthers. One group are adults that think the Earth is flat because thats what it looks like on a small scale. The other group are adults who have imaginary friend/s because someone told them so with no viable evidence. If anything the flat earthers have more of an excuse. (Not had chance to watch the vid yet. I will after work)

Anonymous

is there a way to separate into United States of Smart and the rest of the world?

Gavin Holdgate

If only... we have enough trouble trying to define "smart" in the first place. Last time the human race had a concerted effort to bring out the best in people eugenics happened 🤦‍♂️

Anonymous

Since FE's have such a problem accepting pressure next to vacuum: If I take a pressure sensor and walk up in a tall building I observe the pressure drops. Why and what would happen if the pressure continues to drop?

Nate

All that was missing to have made this perfect was powering the vacuum dryer with a solar roadway and shipping to customers in a hyperloop... It's just like with peak oil, just when I think we've hit "peak stupid" someone manages to discover more...

VitAnyaNaked

At one time, I myself began to study all this, since I probably was to some extent similar to Flat Earthers and I wanted to know the real truth))

Anonymous

Hey Thunderf00t. Good News! They have repealed the Laws of Thermodynamics. They have come out with a product called Polaire. I look forward to this one. Give them a kick from me too.

Anonymous

I'm so glad you have started a new series "why do people laugh at flat earthers ? " :-D

Anonymous

I think, when it comes to flat earthers, you need to be really grounded in who your audience is. Are you (1)seeking to reinforce the scientists idea of science ? Are you (2) hoping to convince the as yet uneducated to study science ? are you (3) attempting to change the mind of a flat earther ? Far too often, debunkers settle for (1) and come across as condescending and scathing. This is off putting and conceited to group (2) and put's the back up and redoubles the determination of (3). To tackle (2) or (3) I think some level of comprehending their position is required in order to demonstrate the stepping stones they are missing .... key to flat earth thinking is the idea that "real science" is that which we "prove to oursleves with our own senses" .... but I don't think they appreciate that our own senses lie to us. They certainly do not understand maths. I've often wondered whether the whole thing needs to start with how each of us create a model of reality in our own head ... then explore the ways by which we can alter or re-affirm that until it fits our usefulness criterion. (repeatable, reliable, therfore projectable etc). And the main point they always fail to see is that science unifies all explanations wihout contradiction (disclaimer - except where it doesn't :-) ) . Take the example FE's often cite "pilots are taught 2D navigation therfore the earth is flat" ... because they cannot grasp the fact that gravity takes care of the 3rd dimension and it's simply not useful to a pilot to include the 3D maths in the model ! I think they will take issue with your "balls in a container with no top " demonstration because you have used a container which is not the reality they see with their eyes. (forehead palm splat). But then FE's have a psychological issue: they are trying to reclaim command of thier own destiny rather than have it dictated to them by "scientists". Their motivations come from NEEDING to have a god, an understanding they can cope with and / or the self determination to live their lives. That is why it becomes a "religous" debate.... They will not hear the science because it robs them of their sense of security. But you could go some way to persuading group (2) if you can avoid the condescending tones :-)

BIGRED1977

It's much like calling a 6 year old stupid for believing in Santa Clause rather then questioning them, so how do you suppose (insert need for magic here)

BIGRED1977

whoops...stupid movie...Santa Claus anyway, opportunity to be "Kindly condescending" makes you look like the better man, and, is more fun to see the reaction when they stick to their guns.

Stuart Castle

"Calling yourself a scientist when you do maths"? I am neither a scientist nor a mathematician, but even I know that the two subjects are linked in many ways. In fact mathematics has an impact on every aspect of our lives.

Steven J Greenfield

So... now that YouTube has once again taken down your video for supposed violations, where can we find your latest debunking video?

HW

I agree and would like to add: "study science" or understanding "math" is a HUGE project and there is no easy entry to this. It takes years of full time work to get to a level for truthfully discussing this issue. At the same time, we are told to use our brain and think for our selfs. That is exactly what the flat earthsers are doing. Somehow, I can not blame them... They try to be better, independend human beings with the information they have. One does not just study science and learn math as a side activity, in ones free time. It is either ones profession or the only other thing to do (i can think of) is basically take ones hands off, stating "I don't know". The reasoning against that would be social pressure, in a society where one has to outsmart the next in order to "be something" and feel worthy. My point is, "study science" pretty much never is a practical answer and most of us have to trust scientist, or not. I agree that a more well willing explaining video would be better, especially for those who want to get away form being shouted at because someone claims they are wrong or should believe this or that. I try to ignore news and knowledge that I believe do not impact me directly. On other stuff, i keep an eye to see how things evolve. Seems to work OK :)