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The future of this project (Patreon)

Published:
2017-11-01 07:53:33
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2026-06
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I finally have some updates about the future of MPMB's D&D 5e Character Tools to share with you.

I have gotten a clear answer from Wizards of the Coast that anything that is taken down from DMs Guild will never be allowed to return, even if the reason for taking it down has been resolved.

A new home for the sheets

This means that I will be putting the sheets up in their own home. I'm currently working on a website to house them, but as I have very little experience with web design, this will take some time until I have something I am comfortable with putting online. So please be patient!
 

Only SRD content (but importing still possible)

Unfortunately, for me to be able to distribute the sheets on my own website, I will have to remove all non-SRD content. For those of you who aren't familiar with this term, SRD stands for 'System Reference Document' and is all the material that can be freely used from D&D 5e with the Open-Gamin License (OGL). This content is far less than the full set of content that the sheet offers now, as it only includes part of the PHB (all classes and one subclass each). You can read more about the SRD and OGL here.

However, I will edit the sheet to be able to easier import materials into it. I am working on a feature where you can add a file (or even the URL to a file) directly. No need to copy-paste anything, just fill out the URL of a file that has the proper syntax, and the sheet will import all that content directly.

This does mean that I can no longer provide you with any WotC non-SRD content, but I can't stop anybody from making a copy of all the content and hosting it somewhere else.
 

Sheets available through Patreon

I just made a post that has all of my work attached. This post will be updated with all the new materials as they come available.
 

Steps for the near future

1) Make a website to house MPMB's D&D 5e Character Tools

2) Create v12.999 that has only the SRD content and a better import function. Then, put this new version on the website

3) Find a new place where anybody can post their custom content for the sheets (suggestions are welcome!)

4) Create v13.0 that has support for Magic Items

Comments

HawkZombie

The sheet is amazing. Wherever it ends up I will follow

WestlockPopcorn

Why don't you just skip the website, keep the content, and just pass it out through patreon?

Patrick

Glad to see the sheet still has a future, I suspected this would be the route WOTC wanted. Shame you can never be on DMSGuild again, that seems silly.

Avinash Arora

I think we really need to petition wizards on your behalf. an SRD version of this character sheet would really, really stink. I don't know if there would be a way to get around it by say putting the scripts for all the other content here and then we piece it together on our home computers or something, but without all the extended content...I dunno.

Dwayne Allen

As a fairly new player I have found your tools invaluable so thank you. I know WOTC has a responsibility to protect their IP, but I really don't understand what they gain by making it harder for new players to get involved. Thank you for sticking with this through all the hassle and finding a way forward.

Levi Dillon

I use this sheet because it is incredibly user friendly and because it is ridiculous that WoTC expects people who have purchased all of the source material to pay extra in order to have the electronic content.

Valerie Tate

I'm glad to hear it will live on! Still the best character sheet out there. If you can't be on dmsguild.com, what about on DriveThruRPG.com?

AtomicStraw

Very glad to hear you are continuing to support the sheet - still by far the most useful tool I've found for D&D 5e!

Ashfall Art

I am currently working on my own web project and would be more than happy to help if I can.

nickythegreek

Fight Club 5 and Game Master 5 for iOS have had similar issues and they allow a URL content import. Maybe you can make your sheet import the 3rd party content that people already use for that? That way people can hit the ground running. They use dropbox for finalized files and use github as a way for people to submit updates. <a href="https://github.com/ceryliae/DnDAppFiles" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://github.com/ceryliae/DnDAppFiles</a> <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hiavsiegq28xd7u/AABcMGhKcr8CYgeKaHK1ZDzJa?dl=0" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hiavsiegq28xd7u/AABcMGhKcr8CYgeKaHK1ZDzJa?dl=0</a> and more info here:

Jeramie Brown

As everyone else has already stated, I am really glad you are continuing to support this sheet. It is, by far, the best character sheet I've used in 35+ years of gaming. Where ever you end up housing the sheet and the extra content, I will follow and continue to support you. Thank you for all your hard work!

Carole Oliver

I'm so angry at Wizards for this. Sadly, the usefulness of the sheet is greatly diminished when you dont even have all the PHB options.

Adam D

I have javascript and web experience, if you want to get a team together to help, let me know.

Derek Pattison
>>8065011

I believe the idea is to move people to DNDBeyond for digital content since Curse has the license for the books published digitally.

morepurplemorebetter
>>8064922

Please note that importing content is still an option. Although I can't provide any non-SRD content, there is nobody stopping you from importing your own content, even if that's based off WotC material that you own. Or maybe somebody hosts all the scripts for that content somewhere else for easy access... All I can tell you that it can't be me or the sheets will be very short-lived.

morepurplemorebetter
>>8066859

DMs Guild and DriveThruRPG are run by the same company, I am very sure that content banned on the one can't be hosted on the other.

morepurplemorebetter
>>8071446

I can easily add URL importing to the sheet, but it will still have to adhere to the JavaScript syntax that the sheet uses, I can't make it use the other materials. But the set-up can indeed be similar.

morepurplemorebetter
>>8074054

Thank you for the offer, but I rather have my own website that I can tweak and add content too as I see fit (like an FAQ and forms for bug-reporting).

morepurplemorebetter
>>8082339

Please note that importing content is still an option. Although I can't provide any non-SRD content, there is nobody stopping you from importing your own content, even if that's based off WotC material that you own. Or maybe somebody hosts all the scripts for that content somewhere else for easy access... All I can tell you that it can't be me or the sheets will be very short-lived.

Amy Trog

So does that mean that anything new, like Xanthar's Guide, won't be incorporated into the sheets?? I'm so confused. I am not good at importing all that info! I always mess it up. That is why I am so willing to pay for these sheets.

Trevor Duston

I am curious about Xanathars as well...

Stephen Wilcoxon
>>8152007

MPMB will not be able to provide Xanathar's data. However, since the sheet allows importing of data, someone else could create the JavaScript data files for others to download and import.

Curtis Glenn

This really sad to hear, but I am assuming it has to do w/ the fact that they would rather people use D&D Beyond. I will continue using your sheet as long as I can....but still very sad.

Plemith

does anyone already have xanathars guide ready for import

David Doherty

To make sure I understand then - the sheets that we pay $3/mo to have access on here are not the same sheets as previous because you cannot have SRD materials in them. You're selling a framework and we have to import all of the rules?

Scott Luffy

Keep up the good work with these character sheets Purple! My players and fellow DMs here in VA are OBSESSED with them! One question: when can we expect Xanathars to be added to the sheets??

Bobby Lewis
>>8517115

I'm not sure you read what the man said... MPMB said: "I can't provide any content other than SRD"

Pioneer1111

Hello, I am only just finding your actual patreon, but I have a question. Is there a way to obtain the syntax I need for adding to a previous version? I really enjoyed using your sheet for all of its options that it provided, and was hoping (until the content for the new version is at the level of the previous ones) to add in one or two Xanathar's subclasses and spells to a version I have that is pre 12.999. My group loves your sheet and we want to try out some of the newer content.

morepurplemorebetter
>>8626207

The syntax for the previous versions (i.e. before 12.999) is almost identical, except for the functions AddRacialVariant, AddSubClass, AddBackgroundVariant, AddWarlockInvocation, and RequiredSheetVersion. Those functions all don't exist before v12.999. Instead, you will just have to add things to the RaceSubList, ClassSubList, and BackgroundSubList variables directly. And then, to get the addition working, you also need to add it to the parent item. Take a subclass for example, you can make a new subclass by defining a new ClassSubList entry like this: ClassSubList["yousubclass name"] = {}; Between the brackets {} you put the same as you see between the brackets {} in the syntax on GitHub (that hasn’t changed). Then, you also need to add the subclass to the class it belong to, like this for adding it to the fighter: ClassList.fighter.subclasses[1].push("yousubclass name");

Jimmy Gurney

I am in love with this sheet. I'm looking at hosting the "old" material, but I seem to be a bit late to the punch. Was anyone able to backup the old GitHub content prior to the update? MPMB, if this is not the right forum for this conversation, please let me know.

Pioneer1111
>>8626207

I apologize for the silence, but I guess Patreon missed notifying me of your comments? I never saw anything indicating you had replied. Thank you very much for the reply, and I want to say again that I and my group LOVE your sheet, and it has been our main means of easily creating sheets. Thank you for your hard work.