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S3E24: Alphaville (Patreon)

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2024-07-25 20:01:32
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This week on the free feed, Alphaville. What happens when a prominent director of the french new wave gets a hold of a pulp detective IP? It turns out, he invents going 'woah, computers'

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Tripp

ah shit, the French

Zipzapzop

When you think about it Flash Gordon says a lot about masculinity

kinoverite

just watched this last night, what a coincidence lol

Camoose the Uncrackable Egg

I beg of you, do The Jackal, if only to see the many faces of Bruce Willis. It's basically a reverse bond movie and features a good guy IRA sniper and his bask ex-girlfriend. It even passes the Bechtel(sp?) test.

Jean-Baptiste Raucy

For an extra eurospy movie, I would love to see you do That Man from Rio, mostly because I liked Belmondo when I was a kid and it would be fun to see you tackle that.

Elder Dog

I think that Never to Young to Die (1986) it has John Stamos, George Lazenby and Gene Simmons (yes that Gene Simmons) doing spy shenanigans.

notified.tortoise

You gotta do Danger: Diabolik. It's Italian, it's incredibly horny, and it has cool villain lair set design. Also an Ennio Morricone score (it's not good though).

Mungo

Ok ok, hear me out…. The Spy Who Dumped Me (2018) It’s in Europe.… like mostly. 👀

John Leavitt

Seconded ( although I like the soundtrack, Morricone trying and kind of failing to make horny lounge music)

Public Universal Foe

How the fuck have you talked about movies that inspire/are like the matrix and haven't done ghost in the shell yet I'm begging you

Moonwatcher13

as an unfortunately located American, I shall be purchasing the livestream tickets. But my transfemme ass will be there in spirit!

Ben

I still maintain tinker tailor but the tv show would be amazing content.

ZombieDwarf

"She shakes her head to say 'yes'." Ah, so it's set in Albania then.

Friend of the show

The Champions TV series cut together a movie. A team of Euro spies that get superpowers from visiting a monastery in Tibet!!

Milo

My humble pitch: d.e.b.s. (2004). it's not very euro (apart from two bad accents, french and russian respectively), but it *is* very spy, very lesbian, and incredibly silly. i would love to hear what you guys make of it if you think it could be a good episode

a dreck

In French, "une chinoiserie" originally meant "a Chinese thing", specifically a Chinese piece of art (usable or decorative china, paintings, furniture, etc.). Once Chinese aesthetics (or the European interpretation of Chinese aesthetics) got popular in Europe in the 18th and 19th centuries, a lot of these chinoiseries were made in Europe by Europeans, also called "chinoiseurs" ("Chinese-ers"), for European and Chinese markets. So what did Europeans think Chinese aesthetics were? Dragons, Buddhas, blue on white porcelain, intricate details, heavy decoration - you get the picture. But the word also took on the meaning of some of the negative attributes associated with Chinese people: eccentricity, a taste for complexity, excessive effort for unimportant things, cunning, deceit, slyness, disguises, excessive and obfuscating uses of metaphors in language, etc. I've heard "Arrête de chinoiser" (lit. "Stop Chinese-ing") said to people who are "splitting hairs" about something. So "Don't try your chinoiseries on me" is, as noted, very racist, and in this case also means "Don't try to use your deceit/cunning/slyness on me". I think it also refers to the difficulty of using "the spoken word" to describe reality - a part of the racist stereotype about Chinese people in Francr is that they can never say things straightforwardly. https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/Chinoiserie

Letpapersleep

Okay hear me.. out... the backyardigains international super spy episode. 1. its camp 2. its GOOD

Johnny Smithers

I don’t know if y’all would want to do a musical again, but I can’t help thinking g that it would be really fun if you did the James Bond/Eurospy parody musical Spies are Forever. Its free on YouTube.

DK Jones

Idk if you guys would ever be willing to do it but, The Prisoner would be interesting

Joysweeper

I wish I could say do ok connery again. I won't, it's just that I went back and listened to that episode and if you'd seen it these days, with the proper context... well all right you probably still wouldn't like it, but it'd be like Our Agent Tiger where you're mostly bored but there's a few aspects that are hilarious.

aae19422

I've been asking for Danger Diabolik for ages, so thirded. I disagree though, I think it's fantastic.

John Leavitt

as much as you can see this movie's fingerprints on so many movies I think where it had the most influence was science-fiction TV, trying to express high concept ideas on a zero budget

John Leavitt

or Theatre! I saw a student performance of Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep where very replicant character was played by a visibly different actor in each scene but all trying to same character which was a cheap way to create the kind of noir-influenced disassociation

HappyDragon

Would you ever consider doing a live show in the states?

Hazel Smith

A film pitch: me and my partner were trying to look for a specific film and every time we looked for it on perfectly legal websites, for some reason all the Different Websites kept giving us “Machine Gun McCain” instead - we watched the trailer and it looks AWFUL. We didn’t want to watch it, but for some reason I think You Should

spunups

I'll recommend The Tall Blond Man with One Black Shoe (1972) as a silly, corny and horny french spy film parody. It has a great cast and I guess it's about a sigma male. The Wikipedia page has a blue link to "buttock cleavage"

Aalto Bowers

Highly recommend Charade and/or The Ipcress File.

Jacob King

If we are recommending eurospy adjacent French art movies then the Georges Franju remake of Judex is my pick. A pure dessert movie.

Andrew Dunn

Been begging them to do Day of the Jackal since day one (of my Patronage). Dude weaponizes bisexuality, and Hugo Drax is in it. And it's about colonialism

Brian Taulbee

If you’re taking suggestions for the heist season, I can’t recommend “How to Steal a Million” highly enough. It’s O’Toole and Hepburn at their most charming; it’s not possible to be unhappy after watching it.

Aalto Bowers

Absolutely - I've rewatched it so many times. I love Henry Mancini's score.

Andrew Dunn

Day of the Jackal please God Michael Lonsdale, colonialism, weaponizes bisexuality NOVEMBER JUST MENTIONED IT, ITS AN OMEN REMAKE BEING RELEASED WITH REDMAYNE Also the movie Convoy is a Marxism-Lorryism tour de force that confronts law enforcement, race, and has the protagonists insult the villain with a trans joke

HulloThere

I mentioned this on Twitter but you guys should absolutely watch Possession (1981) as a Eurospy film. It’s made by a Polish director in West Germany and has just the most incredible performances from GILTS Sam Neill and Isabelle Adjani, is bizarrely bookended by an (intentionally?) incomprehensible spy plot, and has a man who is perhaps The Kauffman of all time.

HulloThere

And to show you I’m serious, this is the first time I’ve ever left a comment on Patreon.

XanderLeoarro

The Beatles: HELP! badly parrodying Bond and Eurospy while being incredibly racist and not as funny as A Hard Day’s Night

XanderLeoarro

Also good movie that overlaps spy and crime is Le Samouraï

Andrew Dunn

Double feature with Jarmusch's Ghost Dog

Noblese Oblahaj

I put forth the movie Gotcha! It's euro, it's spy, and ive never heard another living person say one word about it. I remember it being corny and fun but it has been decades since I saw it so

iaguz

I consider a computer to be indispensible.

Gwen, Charm of the Ozarks

Y’all should watch the Eurospy movie “I saw the TV Glow” I’d love to hear your thoughts

Big Bird

You should, for closure if nothing else watch the only good bond film- rogue male. The '76 film that asks the question "what if a toff tried to kill Hitler and then hid in a badger set for a bit?"

vercingix

I am a broken record, but Avengers S4, "The Gravediggers". There's a man who loves trains so much he wants to destroy all cars, and Diana Rigg gets tied to a miniature railway track in a leather catsuit. It's perfect!

Shapelytimber (edited)

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2026-09-06 12:00 Hey if you are taking suggestions, I would kill to hear you talk about Titane 2021. Nothing to do with espionage, but it has a lot to say about masculinity and (trans)gender ! love your podcast xoxo
2024-07-26 19:05

Jack Fennell

Once again shilling for "Arlington Road" (1999), a pre-9/11 paranoid thriller about terrorism, from a time when 'terrorism' was mostly synonymous with 'angry white men' in the media landscape. Very chewy, both in terms of analytical potential and what Jeff Bridges and Tim Robbins do to the scenery.

Jack Fennell

Re. Alphaville, there's an Irish-language parody called Éireville, in which a black-and-white dystopian city is dominated by the preserved brain of Éamon de Valera, the year is always 1916, the time is always 19:16, and the hero's name is Lemmy Cúramach ('careful'). Just a factoidy nugget for the Godard trivia completists.

Jermy

Suggestion: Tinker Tailor BBC miniseries, it’s on YouTube. Been waiting for it forever, and I know you know it exists

Jermy

Or The Bad Sleep Well

Jermy

My great uncle won a silver star on Guadalcanal (army), and the Guadal part rhymes with waddle

Jermy

Perhaps that’s too identifying

Jermy

I will defend the guillotine. I don’t really believe in the death penalty, but if you’re going to do it, the guillotine remains the most humane. It’s only traumatizing for the observers, and I don’t really see why execution shouldn’t be.

Harold Gottfried

Not sure if this I what y’all would be going for, but it would be interesting to contrast the Euro-Spy Thriller with the Euro-Political Thriller based on the actual political violence and struggles in Europe of the 60s. I’m mainly thinking of something along the lines of Z (1969).

Winson Paine

OK another nomination for EuroSpy, and it is not strictly euro but it is spy and it does thake place in Europe but I am suggesting Paul Feig's SPY starring Jenny McCarthy which I remember being super fun and also a pretty good Bond parody

Ed

It is unfortunately American, but Torn Curtain would be an interesting one.

Addelaide Harper

have yall considered Johan Falk? or maybe the 2014 robocop reboot/remake

Dean Sartorel

Not a EuroSpy movie, but for robbery season you 3 should watch Sexy Beast, Ben Kingsley’s performance alone is worth it

flibbityflob

Said it before, will say it again - detective bureau 2-3, kill the bastards! gives great footage of 60s Tokyo, gorgeous colour grading, and it's like....just kind of a blast (even if it has some unfortunate 60s misogyny)

Brian Danger Hicks

You know, when you had asked for more Eurospy movies earlier I had the fleeting thought of suggesting Johnny English movies, but then decided no, it would be cruel to have them watch those.

Sam Price

Plus it's existence/mention is inherently unsettling to rich people.

kinew92

Others have mentioned them, but The Ipcress File and *especially* Day of the Jackal would be incredible for KJB - but also another Forsyth adaptation - The Fourth Protocol - 80s and fun, and also with an *incredibly* hot young piers brosnan starring to tie it into bond (also there's a russian officer in the first half hour who is spits nate bethea)

Friend of the show

I know they've watched it. Please, please give us the episode about it!

Friend of the show

I've suggested this one before too. I'm commenting to add my vote!

MartinS9157

The Fourth Protocol was one that sprang to mind for me as well.

Jermy

They should definitely do Z even if not for eurospy

Addelaide Harper

Dog Day Afternoon is about a guy robbing a bank to pay for his trans girlfriend's GRS

Thomas Noriega

I'd be interested in what you have to say about de Palma's "Body Double". I just saw it recently and I can't tell if it's completely brilliant or completely coked out of its mind

Micahaphone

"The Man Who Knew Too Little" is a send up of eurospy stuff, Bill Murray is a painfully boring and unfunny man who signs up for a London "live street theater experience" to have an evening of eurospy adventure. He gets entangled into a Real Actual spy adventure but of course thinks this is all just very impressive theater work. Asking goons "oh sorry do you mind if I give this scene another try?" When they're confusedly pointing guns at him and wondering why he's not afraid and what the hell he's talking about.

quantumsquid

The Third Man, basically the ur-eurospy thriller

neoncity

This one is more so in the context of sci-fi and Cold War anxiety films: The Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956). Infiltration as a central concept would fit nicely with this seasons theme.

Sequoia Alexander

When y’all did westerns I had really hoped you’d do The Quick And The Dead, and I would love to see your take on that! Sharon Stone is amazing in it and I’d be curious to see what y’all have to say about it!

Sequoia Alexander

Also Devon you are such a rising star please do another podcast I really like your wit, insights, and passion. (And fuck me if you’re doing another podcast and I’m missing it someone please let me know!)

Frank Baumgarten

Hello, not sure if thats allready mentioned somewhere, Billy Wilders "One, two, thee" could count as Eurospy Movie (a very early one set in after war Berlin before the wall was build)

Nicholas Guerra

Of Eurospy ... things. There is still The Avengers (1998). It's not the one you're thinking off. It has Sean Connery, Ralph Fiennes ... so Bond adjacent casting already.

Nicholas Guerra

Originally a YV series shown in Great Britain for more than five years (debuting in 1961) before it caught on in America, `The Avengers' is a secret-agent thriller that almost bests James Bond.

Nicholas Guerra

A charismatic evil genius named Sir August de Wynter (Sean Connery) discovers a way to harness the weather and utilize it as a weapon against London and the world at large. The posh and droll combo of secret agents John Steed (Ralph Fiennes) and Emma Peel (Uma Thurman) are on the case. But then Peel is implicated in the sabotage of a government scientific experiment. Steed and Peel try to clear her name, while also trying to stop de Wynter for good.

Bilbro T. Baggins

The King's Man (2021). The prequel to The Kingsmen series that takes place during WW1 and blames the war on those evil anti-monarchists, fanboys Kitchener, then does the hardest horseshoe theory I've ever seen for a post credit stinger... if you do this movie please please please don't skip the post credit scene. Also you guys mentioned doing Fury awhile ago, not eurospy but I would love for you guys to do that movie.

Forlornwinter

This is not eurospy, but it is so, so worth your time: The Road to Wellville (1994). If you are a fan of wigglers, it has such a bounty of historically-accurate wigglers as must be seen to be believed. I fear that I can't say more without spoiling the purity of your first impression.

Sublight Monster

Can I recommend The Conversation? Not Euro, and the least glamorous side of spying ever put to film, but an excellent movie. And, I am finally caught up!!!

The Mercian People's Front

I'm going to throw in for One Of Our Dinosaurs Is Missing. Possibly not technically Eurospy but it's absolutely playing with many of the same tropes. Cultural Insensitivity is going to be up there with Live & Let Die but it's the kind of film we could get some good conversation out of.

James Collinge

If you're taking Eurospy suggestions: 1967's Bersaglio Mobile, which was renamed Death on the Run / Moving Target. It's a spy movie through the lens of spaghetti westerns. The potential for drops in this one is *high*. It was also the basis for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood's fictional Eurospy movie, "Operazione Dyn-O-Mite!" - the car chase that's briefly shown was made by subbing Leo's face over footage from Bersaglio Mobile.

Jack

I am a cis het man. No one I know personally would get the reference sesh gremlin q (a bit from an earlier episode). I would like to meet someone who knows about sesh gremlin q. Alas I am at work the days the live shows are being held. Whilst I enjoy the live shows (good work on the prince. I saw it live) I have a double purpose asking for more live shows as my heart yearns for someone who knows about sesh gremlin q. “Ever heard of psilocybin 007?”

Jakob Cordes

Does A Most Wanted Man count as Eurospy? It's recent, but a European(ish) production and die vibes sind ausgefucht.

Candy H

Yeah, the uh, apple-onion and the Calrissian, or whatever that Nitchy guy said

Philip Seidl

If you're looking to buy some time and do a trilogy, can you do the Fantomas movies with Louis de Funes?? I vaguely remember them from childhood, largely because one of them featured a BEAUTIFUL Citroen DS, but have a strong suspicion that they will be incredibly annoying (best case) or, well, you know (worst case).

David Allison

Not a Eurospy suggestion but if you need a fun one or perhaps do a pulp/schlock season I'd love for you to watch Order of the Black Eagle (1987). It's an absolutely awful Bond/Indiana Jones ripoff featuring a sidekick Baboon who pilots a tank and a plot to resurrect a cryogenically frozen Hitler (for which the prop looks more like a Hitler cake). There's a previous film in the series called Unmasking the Idol as well.

Luke Donnelly

I don't know if they're on theme but I think the two Peter Ustinov Poirot films would make good episodes. Although I think you might have mentioned having them on your list already. I also thought of the Worricker trilogy to stay in the realm of espionage.

POLYCRIMINAL

As comment 100 I’d like the recent Clifford film with Jack Whitehall to be covered. There’s a massive red dog and this dog doesn’t fit in normal dog spaces, this dog has to try to live in a matchbox world.

Rune

I think y’all would have a TON of fun with The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas, a Dolly Parton classic. It isn’t Eurospy at all, but I’m submitting it for a future bonus episode where things are a bit too serious on the main feed. Some of the fits are absolute fire and it’s always nice to see Burt Reynolds. The nebulous queer coding of the villain is ripe for discussion as well, I think you’d have a good time with it

Nick Gully

I would love to hear the pod watch a Soviet spy film to provide a view from the other side of the curtain.

TheWanderingBard

Taking this chance to re-up my recommendation of Bunraku (with Woody Harrelson, Josh Hartnett, Demi Moore and Gackt) as the opposite kind of fun episode. Elements of kung-fu films and faux-theatre staging plus some wild choices for transitions and presentation.

Erik Steb

Quite late here but OSS 117: Alerte Rouge en Afrique Noire could potentially set an untouchable high score

Sini Tuulia

Listening to this as a full adult, as explained and expounded upon by people who have thoughtfully watched a lot of movies, it does make much more sense and hits different than in my Art Goth phase as a youth when I watched a lot of weird black and white movies just because... 11/10.

NowhereMan661

Your pronunciation of Guadalcanal is genuinely atrocious.

NowhereMan661

It baffles me that Godard claimed to be a Maoist while consistently being very racist against Chinese people. Like, what are you doing, man?

Sophia O.

Would love to see you guys cover La Chinoise. My new college’s leftist club mentioned doing a movie night for it in the past and I kind of panicked… like what the hell is this movie, and are they going to call me a revisionist for disliking it?? Then I realized they’re just broke and can only afford to watch movies in the Criterion Collection 🙃