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S2E23.5: Tombstone (Patreon)

Published:
2023-05-04 09:07:05
Edited:
2023-07-27 17:21:58
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2026-06
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It's cowboy time babey. It's time for the true-ish story of Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday, and the gunfight at the OK Corral! Featuring a whole bevy of guys we love to see, guys we've loved to see, and guys we would have loved to have seen.

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Kill James Bond is hosted by Alice Caldwell-Kelly, Abigail Thorn, and Devon. You can find us at https://killjamesbond.com and https://twitter.com/killjamesbond

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Billie Ash

All this tombstone talk has me watching The quick and the dead

Maggie+Al

you monsters you finally got me to sub, probably cant keep it up but I wasnt going to miss this.

microbialkitty

It's 3am, started drinking at about 4pm, starting Tombstone now and then I'll listen to the pod in the morning and watchthe movie again tomorrow eve. Thanks for the great evening (morning) ladies and gentlecars 💕

Jeremy

Is the Patreon RSS feed broken? I don't see any episodes listed since 2022.

Jonathan Oatley

Just watched this last night and was thinking it'd be a great episode

poprox101

#JusticeforRingo ACAB includes the Earps and their damnable federal overreach and you can't convince me otherwise

Lay-Tex-Lips

Man now I really am hoping for a Yojimbo episode

Lew

I want this so much. Blazing Saddles has everything the pod needs, humor, social critique and slurs!

Schizmo

Tranny Oakley and Cock Holiday I am PISSING MYSELF

Rhiannon M

I'd really like to draw a through-line from this to another crypto-fascist western property that draws upon the real life historical figure of Wyatt Earp, the Canadian contemporary urban fantasy syfy show of Wynonna Earp. It also continues this film's preoccupation with "Exegetic Chains" by having the titular Wynonna not only be a direct blood relation of the long-dead Wyatt, but also literally cursed to either repent for his mistakes or to repeat them. Although it doesn't have terribly many trans allegories in the text of the show, it is very notable for a canon on-screen main cast lesbian romance (yay!) between two skinny white girls (less yay), one of whom is a cop (boo). And at no point does the cop ever want to stop being a cop (more boo). And the singular black character on the show's main cast asked to be written out of the show in the 3rd season (yikes). Predictably, it has a die-hard fan base of queer whyte women who didn't raise much of a fuss about the show's valorization of cops during the George Floyd protests of 2020. Which sucks, because mass-audience shows with canonical queer couples are still so rare that creators have to fight tooth and nail for their mere existence, and they are only allowed to do so if the queer characters hold up other racist power structures.

BarFly

I would like to point out that not only is Stephen Lang great in Avatar, he's great in literally everything that he's been in, as far back as the Michael Mann tv show Crime Story.. One of my most favorite guys guys to see.

anamoy

Crime Story! that show was big in our Chicagoland household

BarFly

It absolutely whips. Not quite as good once they shift from Chicago to Vegas but still very good. So many great actors in it too.

Corey Yanofsky

Considering that this is an episode full of reports of guys we love to see, how in the world did not a single podcaster at least recognize Billy Bob Thornton?

Patrick Lopez

Absolutely one of my favorite movies of all time!

Amy

ACAB (All Cows Are Boys)

Patrick Lopez

But oh boy is it ever a product of the early 90's.

Bella DeBall

Kurt Russell's son Wyatt was in "Under The Banner Of Heaven" and was very good in it

Dr. Mrs. The Gay Rat

Holy shit extremely excited for this lol Tombstone is some serious masc energy

The MILF Formerly Known as Tzippi

History confirmation: the earliest forms of American organized crime are way earlier and way cooler than cattle rustlers, it was *rum runners*. There was an entire network of motherships hanging out off the coast that smaller boats would come out and buy some and bring it to shore. It's part of the reason for the creation of the revenue cutter service, one of like 9 orgs that eventually coalesced into the coast guard.

brodie

Val Kilmer rolling in like yo this is the bad bitch I pulled by being kinda gay with it and also having tuberculosis.

Raymond Price

Devon on Bone Tomahawk, taking the same line as one test pilot for the XF-84 Thunderscreech- "You aren't big enough and there aren't enough of you to make me do it."

Rufus

Nice good western episode, hey why not watch another DEFINITELY good and DEFINITELY not far too long and meandering western heavens gate (it does contain a rollerskate dance sequence and also John hurt)

Mo Haworth

Back to dropping Mountain Goats song titles in conversation just to see if anyone notices then, are we Alice?

melanerpes

Ooo power of the dog, yes plz

Comrade Birthday Boy

“Im your huckleberry” is referencing huckleberry being poisonous. Doc was volunteering to try and kill him when he said that. Nothing to do with huck fin.

Taki Kuroi

Glad to hear Alice mention The Quick and the Dead, because I was on my way here to pitch it. It's weird, has an absurd cast list, and for sure has some gender in it.

Caleb O'Brien

Quick & The Dead is a great western where a woman actually gets to do stuff. Another option is Meek’s Cutoff. I’d also recommend The Harder They Fall for women & POC in lead rolls, and 3:10 to Yuma (2007) for some good masculinity talk.

B.Z.

Have you considered "The Salvation" 2014, a Danish Western full of guys you love to see.

Eric Adams (German)

What are the chances yinz can do Come and See in a respectful insightful manner?

Mitch T

I thought it was "Clock Holliday?"

Mitch T

I liked your take that Doc Holliday was the only one immune from the effects of committing murder. Perhaps because he was already dead from the beginning?

John Shaw

While you're on a neowestern run it would be amazing to hear you go over Dead Man (1995)

Spencer Davis

One of the best cold opens. Thank you Devon for making that the teaser, it finally convinced me to pay.

Jh

I found myself hoping you cover 'Unforgiven'.

Gabe

Holy shit the pun names Alice and Abi gave themselves at the beginning were so funny, I love a good pun.

Alex Anderson

I'm kind of surprised that this is Alice's favorite Western movie because I really feel that there a great many other, better Westerns out there. That's not to say that this is an essentially bad movie or that she's bad for liking it, I just didn't much see the appeal. But yeah I generally found its efforts at being 25% a 90s romance movie just a complete failure. Like, to give an example, with the main plot I really didn't have a solid idea for how things were gonna end. I didn't know who would die or make it out alive--heck, the O.K. corral fight feels like it would be another movie's third act climax and I think that's good for it. However, the absolute *moment* Love Interest (name forgotten) enters the scene, it's just glaringly obvious she and Wyatt are going to end up together at the end. And in every scene that she enters, you know the scene is going to end from the first line she is given. Her character is so remarkably shallow, it feels like the clearly very talented screenwriters switched from communicating the plot through coded radio messages to flag semaphore from five feet in front of you. I would just get up and go get water when she entered the same scene as Wyatt. Beyond that, my other gripe is that I didn't fully realize what was a montage until you all called it out. This might be because montages have been passe long enough that they were a joke in Seinfeld that I just don't get the cue for it, but the last one in particular was just downright confusing. You think you're watching a cut to a cohesive chase scene but the characters just jump around, with Wyatt going from standing and shooting a guy to suddenly on a horse without any strong indicator to the viewer why this change is happening. It's just downright weird to me. p.s. i hope you guys do Sicario and No Country for Old Men

Gabe

Fucking love Devon’s deep cut steely Dan pull!

Brian Taulbee

If they do Lone Star I’ll die of joy. It only gets more relevant with time.

Tristan Lewis

Plenty to laugh at, plenty to analyse.

Whisky_Delta

As a southern accent haver, i am deeply conflicted by Plantation Devon

Sequoia Alexander

It took me a while to realize this was not “The Quick and the Dead” and I was like “where is Sharon Stone!?”. Another movie full of guys we like to see. I really hope you cover it!

Sequoia Alexander

Ooooh just heard Alice say she wants to cover The Quick and the Dead so yaaay!

Strike3

That really good line from Doc Holiday was latter used by Calib, the protagonist of the Monolith FPS called BLOOD. I can best describe Calib as what if you fused Clint Eastwood, Duke Nukem, and the Crypt Keeper from Tapes from the Crypt. That sounds way too edgy, but the voice actor is just so enjoyable. Second game is bad, but still has some good lines. https://youtu.be/LSgLQzjfj00

Cate Kneale

This might be a bit of a 3am thought but I'm now thinking about how a fascist society requires the existence of violent predatory men and also how often I see this in terf rhetoric. Hmm.

Cate Kneale

Huckleberries aren't poisonous in the US though.

Cate Kneale

Also this is a wrong opinion but I did like the 1994 film Bad Girls.

Bappy Lorenzo

Plz do Bone Tomahawk. That shit is so bonkers in a way I still can't tell is good or bad.

AmiAndTea

Listening to this episode again and I know they won’t cover it because it’s like 6 hours total but I would love to know what KJB think of Trigun Stampede and the stories it tells through the medium of space cowboys/gunslingers It’s also Quite Gay

Robin McMurry

Fun fact: my childhood family pet was named Curly Bill after the outlaw.

Knights Who Say Sledge

Largely unrelated but, I'd love to get to hear y'all do a bonus episode on The Good, The Bad, The Weird.

Noblese Oblahaj

This movie isn't about fascism, it's about stache-ism.

Noblese Oblahaj

I've been catching up on my backlog and only just now heard Devon chuckle and compliment my name. Thank you! Made my day.

Squash fei

“Shoot for the moon, if you miss at least you’ll land among the stars”

James Rule

For another great (fictional) example of "How intimidating a guy with a gun" works out, see the bathroom scene in Full Metal Jacket.

MagneticRose

Trannie Oakley took me the fuck out oh my goddd

Winson Paine

Every time I relisten to this EP I love remembering cuck bartender is Thornton

Corey Yanofsky

(technically BBT was the faro dealer; the bartender was the owner/operator who is too scared to confront him)

Northerly K

A wagon full of suffragettes.

lassus

Trannie Oakley had me doubled over in the kitchen laughing

Australian Estuary Pirate

When November said "Speaking of taking opium" for a brief moment I thought she was throwing to ads in the Robert Evans style, lol.