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Hey everyone, here's  early access to this year's holiday episode, where we discuss a Christmas comedy called The Ref from the late Ted Demme. We found this movie to be pretty lackluster overall so we got off topic quite a bit during this discussion, but it was still a fun episode to record. We talk a bit about Ted Demme's other films (Blow, Who's The Man?, Beautiful Girls) as well as other, better Christmas comedies. 

Stay tuned for our Patreon episode on Overnight & American Movie and our end of the year wrap-up.

Thanks for your continued support!

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Luke Gordnier

Ryan, I wanted to thank you for the recommendation of Sullviens Travels in the ladykillers episode. Really good movie and I agree with you that it could be made today. It it a very timeless film.

Luke Gordnier

The ref feels like stay tuned where they go all the way but it doesn’t. Also, the last 20 min are so rushed.

Luke Gordnier

I actually saw a little princess when I was little. Might check it out again.

JokersJuicyAss

Well I have a feeling I will be able to join in on your Movie Catch up show on next Friday with Babylon, because me and my ma actually want to watch it, and now I realize it's like 3 hours, so boy howdy I hope it's gonna be good

JokersJuicyAss

Ryan I swear to god you and me have the same taste in writing, because for basically shits and giggles I have a story about drug dealers (And don't worry it's not like Blow, aside for licensed music but I make sure to only reference obscure shit most people haven't heard about) and it's mostly just dialog

JokersJuicyAss

God I was watching Family Guy earlier on FXX (Also side note and Hot Take, The Simpsons were never really good, that show always sucked, just in different ways, it's not really that funny, I feel no emotions while watching it because characters rarely change, and you're all just chasing a faux idea of what a good show is based on marketing, now that I have been banned off of this patreon, taking away 1/3rd of its profits back to me bitching about something else) and in Lois Kills Stewie they do that behind the door thing, but you what that episode did right, aside for making it a joke, Stewie actually shot and killed someone, a fucking 22 minute episode of a TV show mouthbreathers call horrible did something a hour and 40 minute movie couldn't do

Mary and Steve

Chiming in to say Bedknobs and Broomsticks is neat! It is definitely trying to be another Mary Poppins but doesn’t quite make it. I’m a Mary Mary Quite Contrary so I say I like it more than Poppins 🙃 Notably, it was in production while Disney was trying to get the rights to Poppins. Also Ryan, if you haven’t seen Saludos Amigos, it’s worth a watch! It’s only about 40 minutes and is the predecessor to Three Caballeros. Ok Disney nut OUT

Mary and Steve

Jingle All the Way is my favorite Christmas movie but I would watch a Rankin Bass special or Claymatian Christmas over a movie any time.

Samuel Moszynski

I remember watching Blow and being amazed at how boring and generic it was. I was surprised because I'd heard good things about it. That was before I learned not to trust public opinion. I'm looking forward to the Harlem Nights episode. Eddie Murphys career is always interesting to look at. You guys mentioned doing Brewsters Millions at one point. A Richard Pryor career analysis would also be cool to hear. Keep up the great work!

Heidi

Bedknobs and Broomsticks is amaaaazing! I totally wore that vhs tape out as a kid!

Ryan Lancello

I assumed Blow would at least be somewhat entertaining based on what I had heard too. Watching the first half hour or so, if someone told me it was a parody of drug films, I’d believe them.

Ryan Lancello

It’s a kids movie for sure, and definitely made for little girls, but I appreciated how it doesn’t try and reach for an audience beyond that, was genuine and sincere and clearly made with care for the intended viewers. What little girl wouldn’t love this movie growing up?

Mary and Steve

Traguna Makoides Tracorum Satis Dee! Can’t beat a witch fucking nazis up!!

Brett Lawrence

Fun listen. I watched The Ref the first (and only) time probably 7-10 years ago. I remember being surprised on how “meh” it was. Glad you brought up Judgment Night. For more Piven, how about PCU? Really like that one. Looking forward to the discussion on American Movie (a favorite), and I’ll have to check out Overnight. Happy Holidays.

Dustin C

I agree with Joe on Leon the professional. I saw that movie years ago and didn’t get the hype for it.