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On What Chun Ke did in “This too Shall Pass”

During the Chow Ji fight, Chun Ke was nearly killed—and his soul partially separated from his body. He drifted in and out of this death-like state for a while, travelling the Spirit World, and absorbing thoughts and ideas from the Sea Between Worlds.

He was effectively enlightened here, and while enlightened, he received a choice. His virtuous and pure soul could transcend his body, and he could become a Buddha.

Chun Ke considered this, of wholly separating himself from his earthly desires. He would fly free. 

However, ask Chunky gazed upon the world He realized that while he would be pure, he would not understand. He would leave behind somebody who loved him, without understanding the depths of that love himself.

Thus, Chun Ke committed himself to returning to the impure world. He willingly chose the path of suffering, so that he would truly and genuinely understand—and perhaps alleviate some of the suffering himself. So he bound himself in Tianlan's curious, grasping golden tendrils, and took on her suffering, in his bid to help her.

It was unimaginable agony. Yet Chun Ke stood stalwart, a helping hand, as Pi Pa helped him, as the others helped him.

Through This bond, through Tianlan getting better, through learning he fell in love with the world and made an oath to not fly free like he had. He made Himself a servant to Tianlan, a guide, a protector.

Thus did Chun Ke, knowing full well what Nirvana was, willingly turn and remain, to suffer and to live, never in defiance of either the heavens or the earth.

The heavens recorded this oath.

Now, what Chun Ke did in this chapter is he needed to ask. He needed permission to change, to see if the change alligned with his oaths.. If he could not, that meant that he could not make his wife happy, and to him, that was not a path worth following. Peppa would give up everything she had for him. What sort of man would he be if he did not do the same?

If it hadn't been Chun Ke would have gotten the worst tribulation lightning imaginable for breaking an oath with heaven.

So, Chun Ke went to petition. And the best place to petition is where the Heavens meet the earth. Mount Tai.

Now Mount Tai is more metaphysical in BOC than anything, but if one meditates, and casts their spirit out, they will be able to see the mountain, far off in the distance. It's impossible to miss if you look for it, and is often the first thing a cultivator sees when they “truly” meditate.

In Boc not being able to see mount Tai is a twofold insult. The first is “lol how do you miss a mountain” and “if you cant see mount Tai, then obviously you’re not a cultivator/you’re destined to never reach the heavens.”

Getting there however, is basically impossible. The journey again, is metaphysical. The more you want to get there the longer it takes, and the greater the obstacles become.

Chun Ke simply didn't care how long it took, and enjoyed the scenery the entire way. So his journey lasted forever, but at the same time, no time at all.

He set foot upon the mountain, and all his sins and deeds were weighed. His conviction Tested. Chun Ke strode through it all.without missing a step, because his deeds and actions were pure.

He stepped onto the summit… and then did the equivalent of knocking on the celestial bureaucracy’s door and handing them a petition, while he waited for their answer.

He was again judged, his oaths examined, His nature deliberated on… And his petition was accepted. 

Chun Ke thanked them and left.

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A bit of lore to start the break!

Comments

Sean Ulrich

Once again. Chunky is best boi

tim

Casualfarmer and not actually taking a break. Name a more iconic duo. Thanks and enjoy the holidays! And the upcoming maple season

Menthewarp

Finally, Love me some good lore and clear answers!!! 💕

Dragon723

That is awesome.

jeffrey niski

Hey god. Id like to become human so my wife can be happy and we can have babies. Are you cool with that?

Andrew Denton

Witness the power of heaven, that even their bureaucracy is responsive and efficient!

Deathlokke

This was an absolutely beautiful write-up. Thanks CF!

Michael Beard

Ok... thank you I was wondering how he knew who sailor moon was... and the Chunky Mountain joke in book 2

Angel

Love this so much, thank you for all the happy feels! It makes sense now how he seems to know Jin is from Before, knows his language, etc.

this will work

This was a really good and needed explanation because I didn't really understand how he was so mystical now I know thank you

Silvris

Chunky acting in the one way that the heavens actually approve of. Instead of presuming that he had any right to anything, he went and did the actual proper steps to inform heaven of his intentions and waited for their answer, likely ready to request guidance if it was rejected in order to earn the right to what he petitioned for. Being Chunky, he already fulfilled everything needed without compromising his heavens-bound oaths.

mhaj58

Please don’t end this here. At the very least we need to know about Yulong and Meis bloodline and how the heavenly demons came to exist. And why Jin was the first one to notice them in the empire

WarStrider72

Oh side story! Thanks so much boss!

Red Viking

Chunky out here walking the true path of enlightenment, heading for uber-nirvana.

AkiIokuaAG

Thanks for the lore. If you feel like answering, I have a question about souls in the BoC universe. Perhaps it’s my lack of knowledge regarding Chinese mythology, but, if they neither are consigned to the Hells or are able to ascend to the Heavens, what happens to a person’s soul after they die? Are they recycled like some sort of reincarnation cycle, or does the soul just sort of disperse out into the world and disappear? Again, feel free to ignore me, or just say it’s not something you’ve thought about and don’t really have any answers. It’s just a thought that came to me.

WarStrider72

Huh, so there's no physical Mount Tai in BOC?

leopard eye

He did not strive for royalty thus achieved it rather easily.

Tani

Question about Chunky. Do his oaths align with the Path of Shennong?

Joseph Snyder

I believe it would be best to reright this and put in the book. It is great information and really strikes home his willpower. You could formulate it as the celestial bureaucracy writing the information and background of his petition so that they may record their deliberations. Just a chapter.

Rockinalice

Man the Celestial Bureaucracy must have been so happy that someone followed the proper Procedure with Paperwork finally

Jesper

Chunky is a bodhisattva?

Daniel S. Mountain

A feat beyond imagining, only accomplishable by those utterly without ambition. Chunky-boy earned his human shape in the most awesome way possible.

WannaBeATree

Reminds me of some real word bureaucrats who don't want to do any work, so they make the applicant go through dozens of hoops. Not sure what it says about them to have the hoops take infinity and be potentially deadly.

Chuck Haeberle

It's a nice backstory with absolutely nothing that leads up to it anywhere.

Inky

O!! My heart!! I want to give him all the hugs and scratches.

The Grey Mage

Wait, so he’s literally a Bodhisatva? Ksitigarbha style?

KyoDaDungeon!!

This is good lore dump we love it but... now we live in a world without you writing this out on the side more in depth 😢

Patanahi

Thanks for the lore CF !

Ug the Wolfman

And let us not forget.....he remembered to bring pants.

Alex Rahr

Cool. I had not guessed this, or my interpretations of what was happening were wrong.

FreakShow

Shieeeet! Chunky really said “those guys ain’t never escaping samsara.” And then went back to help.

Havefeith

Chunky is definitely a good boy. I hope this actually gets out to Jin/Chunky's whole family, so he and his family can celebrate with him. Because if the Celestial Beauracracy approves of you... you're bound for a wonderful afterlife/reincarnation when it comes your time. My hope is that he and Peppa are now considered bound together, so she can't die before he does. And considering he's bound himself to Tianlan, he's gonna live for a long time. So his oath is twofold, in a sense, live for Peppa, and live to help Tianlan understand human feelings again. So if Peppa dies before he does, part of his oath to the Beauracracy is broken. So, yeah, I hope for both their sakes, their lives are tied together. Although... this now puts a whole new meaning to "when pigs fly", eh?

Galm_1

Bodhisattva Chu-ke so based

jord

I'd like to think the poor guy who's in charge of receiving petitions was equal parts delighted and confused. "Finally, someone who's just asking nicely, oh it's for his wife? Okay let's take a look at his records," *Opens Chunky's scroll* *Glowing golden light bursts from the page with an accompanying angelic choir* "Ok, I think we're good here, and what's his petition? To have a human form so 'wife be happy'... wait what's his current form? He's a pig... A pig... Became a Bodhisattva... " *Processing implications* "Yeah, I'm just going to log this under 'minor corrections' and pretend this didn't happen."

D. Hymas

How long had Chunky been awakened when he fought Chow Ji though? He was less than a year old if my memory serves. It's hardly a feat for a baby to be pure; all children are pure in the karmic sense. It takes time and effort to cultivate evil. I get what your going for, but the whole Enlightenment angle makes far more sense if you extend it over more time.

Road Trips

I love this background. It would be awesome if it could be incorporated into a chapter. Either a future chapter or an additional epilogue could work. It could be like the Tainlan perspective chapter from the first book that goes back and revisits some of the previous scenes from Chunky’s perspective (or someone from the Celestial bureaucracy if that isn’t too over the top). Just a thought. I love the background. Thank you for posting it!

Old Dog

Thank you for the lore. Pity people who are part of Patreon don't get this. Could it be put in the the book you just finished as an addendum?

Ligeia

Thanks for the very helpful lore, CF. I'm far more familiar with the Hindu spiritual world, so had kind of guessed that at some point Chun Ke had left in spirit and learned about other worlds, but I really had no understanding of the whole Chinese system. It's been thoroughly obvious that Chun Ke is a bodhisatva, but I hadn't realized it was a result of Chow Ji. As a perfect half of a perfect couple, I assumed his continued earthly existence was based on his and Pi Pa's shared love. So learning he came back for Tianlan surprised me. I know he's helped her out and I'm sure she knows his spirit had wandered, but it's nice to learn *why* he's her constant friend. I agree that a lore chapter about Chun Ke and Pi Pa, as well as his relationship with Tianlan, would be a terrific addition to the story. I hope you add it because you did a great job here of explaining SO clearly and thoroughly!

Zeromaru2

I wanna imagine when the Celestial bureaucracy got his petition they went: "Why can't more cultivators do this? Why does everyone of them have to break down our doors when you can just knock smh"

Just A Dude

So Chunkyboy really is a Bodhisattva. Well dang.

Nick Brakhage

Thanks for explaining the you cant see mt tai insult. I always took it just as the you cannot see a mountain so you're blind aspect

Lonnie Sizemore

There's another reason that everyone loves Chun ke.

Kaiser

Too pure

MatrixM

Ohhh so Chunky wasn't reincarnated from Earth, he just knows of every world after he was almost killed.

MatrixM

This should definitely be explained in the main text, I think. Idk where or how, though.

Maks

Brother Chun Ke is truly based

giann flroesca

the absolute gigachunk himself. imagine ACTUALLY ASCENDING not once but twice (since he basically reached Buddahood AND the metaphysical peak of mount tai that cultivators strive to reach) then saying...nah fam I'm good, my wifey is waiting for me. bro literally reached the peak of 2 different religions and said k thnx byeeee.

Nicholas Tran

Does anyone else realize his choices or are these all in the background? Is anyone able to see the greatness he was offered or are they just happy that he lives?

ABTelford

Love this! This should be added as a footnote to the novel with a “footnote” asterisk at the end of the chapter where Chunke asks “please”. As written b this info doesn’t fit into the book in its chapters but I LOVE the info given. Thx!😀

Xander Williams

Chunk, according to the lore, is in fact the goodest boy there can be.

Guy L.

Not so much defying the heavens, as checking in with them to see if everything's cool.

Hoobs2

Chun Ke the bodhisattva

Mrtotoro

Discord link pls