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Robotaxis are coming... last nite I drove 300 miles - including on snow and in freezing fog... i could not see a thing but I watched the car tracking the road lines (which I could not see either)... no idea how it tracked so well but I had complete confidence. If I was driving I would have driven at 20 mph instead of 70mph. Anyhooo FSD on AI 4 is pretty unreal. Makes long distance driving in horrific conditions a breeze.

Back to this story... Brian Wang is one of the few that I watch. He is smart as a whip. I like his take here... it is based on 2 parts 1) robotaxis - I am 95% sure they will be out in one form or another in 2025 in a select area eg Austin TX. 2) is FSD licensing. Once this happens it will be a watershed moment. Wall Street will all of a sudden realize that Tesla is not a car company but it's a software company and then the multiples go nuts. remember the North American charging standard and how one company started and then 35 followed within weeks while I anticipate something similar happening here to those car companies that want to survive

I stick with my $650 target out of being conservative in nature... but if FSD licensing happens.... $750+ is easy. Not to mention crazy FSD uptake rates in China....

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Shea Butter

FSD? Honestly I love my tesla and invest in the company but how the heck is FSD legally allowed on the road. I feel like tesla is making us the crash test dummy. No one should be paying for it yet, we are doing tesla a service by collecting the data they need to train it. Even with this newest update the car completely ran two red lights. Yes I was supervising it, my two choices were to either stop in the middle of the intersection or speed through. The current trust in fsd is just not there for me yet, I won’t use it unless Tesla is held reliable for any FSD accidents. If I have to supervise it, why not just drive myself.

Martinf

What Is Google Waymo future?

Erik Nelson

Any thoughts on cashing out my Apple - Amazon - alphabet and adding to my Tesla position?

Jeff Hammer

Every morning, for the past few years, on my 5 a.m. walk with my dog Wally, the Waymo self-driving cars are cruising through the neighborhoods here in Austin. Night, day, rush hour or dawn - they are everywhere.

Pink Panther

That mean there’s still time to buy. I personally never stopped buying.

RadRich

My take , likely James take . Scaling will be the issue . They are expensive and have not proven profitability . Looks like a money pit for google .

RadRich

Depends on your risk tolerance . Tesla not for the faint hearted .

GMGains

Wang and Lee, have nailed every call they have made this bull ran. These two are remarkable 👏

in signum

James please be careful for your sake, your family's sake and ours. I understand you were using FSD but nothing can help if you hit black ice or a slippery spot.

FigNewton

The free market has spoken. people want to pay to be test dummies. They want to invest in the future that Tesla is creating.

onedollaretc

So? it means Tesla hasbig chance to beat Waymo and get customers away from them. Yeehaaa!

Max Bagger

James, I’m heavily invested in Tesla, and I also love FSD, but I’m always a little confused by how optimistic your FSD reviews are. Granted, I’m on FSD 12, but this car is nowhere near the point of being driverless where I live. Maybe this is a Canada vs. USA roads thing? I could offer 10 examples if you’re interested, including a few boneheaded issues that still haven’t been fixed, but yeah, I have the opposite feeling as you. Use FSD when conditions are good, and the road is right, but definitely don’t trust your life to it yet because it screws up a lot. I don’t want to die. For example, if there’s no merge arrow painted on the road and instead there is a sign that says merge, as is often the case where I live, the car acts clueless and will either drive off the end of the lane into the shoulder or last-second barge into the lane with no blinker. Another issue is on twisty mountain roads, like the road to my house, where it basically can’t stay in the lane without drifting over the centerline. To rub it in your face, it drives 20 km/h below the limit while doing this! So I have to manually drive in these types of situations. Just two examples of regular dangerous behaviors. I just feel like investors here should have the whole truth—that not all FSD owners are experiencing what many of the reviewers in perfect cities like San Fransisco claim.

Max Bagger

You think I wouldn’t if I could? Tesla is now leaving the majority of the fleet on v12, including my car. The thing is, even when the reviewers were on v12, it was the same story: No disengagements, full autonomy is here! Then they get v13 and say the same thing.

Chuck3Putt

I was thinking the same thing. I have been in conditions where I was being legitimately cautious and had things like black ice give me quite a scare. FSD cannot account for those things. I'm not a MAXI nor a nay-sayer. I am excited for the concept. But, I won't be jumping in a TESLA robo-taxi if you're reporting that it goes 70 in those conditions. Sorry, but that is just irresponsible. I would enjoy it when it makes sense and drive myself when the conditions are questionable. I sincerely hope that I'm just being paranoid for other peoples sakes. And I would never wish it to happen. But, the first time one kills someone in sketchy conditions and our stock will plummet. I actually would have preferred that IA said it drove maybe 5 MPH slower than he would have himself. That would have bolstered my confidence in the stock. This "report" did the opposite.