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The Q i am dealing with in my little head these days is

1) is revenue as essential

2) or the other way around revenue as irrelevant:

I will do part 2) First - Revenue Does Not Matter

The real value of low-risk DeFi is not in generating fees, but in creating monetary demand for ETH itself.

MakerDAO, Aave, and Uniswap collectively lock up enormous amounts of ETH, turning it into a reserve asset inside Ethereum’s financial system. This creates persistent demand for ETH as a form of collateral and commodity money, regardless of whether protocol-level revenue is high or low or whether people use the chain. Low-risk DeFi strengthens ETH’s role as a base money—similar to how gold or the dollar derive value—not because they generate revenue, but because they are trusted stores of value. It could be akin to Treasuries and ETFs locking up Bitcoin.

1) Why Revenue Does Matter

Low-risk DeFi cannot become Ethereum’s “Google” like SOL because it simply does not generate the kind of revenue that could justify Ethereum’s valuation.

Even though DeFi TVL ($95.2B) and stablecoin supply ($161.3B) are both at all-time highs, Ethereum’s revenue base continues to weaken — only ~$36M projected for September. If Ethereum is fundamentally valued on its ability to generate fees and cash flows, then low-risk DeFi falls short. It may provide utility, but it doesn’t create sustained blockspace demand. Without a strong revenue engine, Ethereum’s $0.5 trillion valuation becomes difficult to rationalize, especially if ETH is not widely adopted as the primary monetary asset.

In this framing, Ethereum’s valuation is supported by ETH’s role as money, not by fee revenue.

I will let you all decide on what you think but as far as I am concerned I always follow the money.

I will leave this final slide from Toly that I found interesting

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Why1504

James, when I first read this I almost felt you were arguing that revenue doesn’t matter. If we look at history revenue, finance, commerce, money… has driven every and I mean every development or activity since the beginning of man. At first it was trading a bite of an apple for the expectation of other activities. Man is hungry, another person has food, what can the hungry man trade for food. One way humans are above other animals is that we learned to trade from the beginning. Revenue always matters. Period.

Cybernek

The eth staking etfs will create more demand, the problem is this is inflationary for the asset. If adoption of burning gas doesn't happen, eth will have a major problem on its hands. Same thing could be said about sol though but sol seems to have more adoption currently and a staking yeild degrading 15%/year. Some of the eth treasuries have talked a big game about playing both sides buy controlling the make supply through pushing demand or burning gas. I'm not so sure they will be sussful in this as eth has become cheaper to use but still not cheap enough. Guess we'll see how the public reacts to both etfs and narratives.

RivalTek

Toly also said the side effect of making Solana the best execution layer is that it can also function as an excellent settlement layer, a feature! He basically reaffirmed ETH actually is the best at nothing. No strong use-case at all.

CoolhandoMy

First Movers advantage , There is lots of ways to make a better Bitcoin, but That will never happen, first mover advantage 🤔 DOGE 🪙, there are a dozen Meme coins that are better ... First mover Advantage Etherum, SCP , same thing first mover Advantage, its theirs CROWN 👑 to lose, or someone has to take it from them Off topic.. No one in this community should be Buying Solana at these leaves ... good lord 😳, if you didn't get in under 100 , unless your Trading but even that's risky, if you have to pay taxes on your gains FOMO

Chewie

SCP though can be overtaken in my view (unlike Bitcoin as store of value).

Helmet VonBaton

Have you changed your position that ETH is dead / will die? Are you looking to hold ETH as well as SOL?

BrightEyes

Love it. I think I kinda get it, maybe lol. As a side issue on this, can you explain XRP?

Cameron

I am very confused with all this. How do you invest in SOL right now or am I too late and just concentrate on TSLA and BTC?

Daniel Belmer

Good time to invest in SOL... will be soon over $300....for sure! TSLA is ready for a temporary pull back.... BTC will continuing gain more value

Kyle Pooper

Bitcoin is my only safe money and Tesla is an aggressive alternative

InvestorMainiac

Toly vision doesn't make sense. Why have SOL execute ultra fast then have slow finalisation done in ETH (when you can just do both in SOL). He's clutching at straws. SOL will rise. ETH will lose. He reminds me of the UBER CEO saying "We could partner with Tesla" (yeah...but partnership not needed!)