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Perceptions of suicide & depression in Korea / UBER NOT ALLOWED / Conscientious objection is legalized (Patreon)

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Danny From the Seoul Ep.9

3:30 - Perceptions of suicide & depression in Korea

14:14 - TAXIS vs RIDE-SHARE services in Korea

27:28 - We can now reject military service based on religious beliefs

37:54 - Seoul has the best bike-share system in the world

Sorry Frank for smacking my lips!

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Tatyana M

I can’t stand people who start blaming and expressing their disappointment over someone’s suicide. As if their opinion is what matters. A person who commit suicide or just attempted to does not need that bullshit. Stfu. And those rude and negative comments are obviously commenting from the outside looking in which means they should stfu even more. I went through the deepest of my depression between 2014-2016 and I felt like pure waste. The only reason I didn’t attempt suicide is because I was afraid of ending up in pain if I did something wrong. I’m so much better now but even these days I feel like I’m fighting against something. But the fact that I’m fighting makes me feel proud that I’m at least trying. Back in 2016, I could barely even get out of bed and when people asked me what was wrong with me, the most common answer they’d get is “idk.” Because I had no idea. I still don’t fully know. Sometimes I look back and think of what it may have culminated from but, for now, I’m just happy that I’m no longer in that state. Also, the comparing is very insensitive. Some people find ways to cope with depression but others never find their outlet and just go on suffering. I’m so glad I’ve found the fight to not dwell on those bad thoughts but it’s not easy AT ALL. Telling someone that people have it worse does not help them and if they’re already vulnerable, it’ll make their depression worse. Like you said, professional help is the answer to depression, not blame and chastising. I noticed the lip smacking but after Frank pointed it out, it was amplified lol. I agree with the carpool services being legal. The taxis are the ones that need to get with the times. Uber and Lyft are amazing to me. I remember calling cabs and they’d take ages to come. Then they’d take their time getting you where you need to go just to run up the meter. With Uber, you know how long it’ll take them to get to you, you know how much your ride will cost, and you can immediately rate the driver. Some Uber drivers even lay out a snack bar in their cars lol. I see a lot more conscientious objectors in Korea’s future 😂 Also, that guy pulled out his teeth to evade the serving?! That’s dedication. I’d let him go on the strength of courage alone. I’m kidding of course but damn he’s dedicated. I disagree with them having to disarm landmines as an alternative. That’s putting them in direct danger. Nah. Just because people might take advantage of the system, it doesn’t mean actual Jehovah’s witnesses should have to face possibly being blown up. Just give them military roles that don’t involve being armed. That way they can still serve. Does Seoul not have the best transportation in the world? I’m obviously being biased but I’m so jealous of Seoul’s public transit. My city’s transit is doodoo. The idiom you mentioned is me coveting Seoul transit. I’ve literally bragged to people about it lol. You wouldn’t be able to handle the way my city’s buses run. They’re supposed to come every 15 minutes but they run however they like. I know the Ddareungi because of your bike trip to Busan video. My city had bike share. I don’t know if we still have it now because I don’t see it as much anymore but there’s an electric scooter system here. I would pay $30 for the annual ddareungi. I would be commuting by bicycle here if it costed me $30 annually.

Amy Brown

So, first of all your voice is lovely. I hadn't noticed before because I've only watched your videos and I get distracted by visuals. Second, I'm sorry to hear about your acquaintance but I'm glad his attempt was unsuccessful. Your discussion made me think of this video about the emotional labour required of content providers as they try to maintain the perfect level of "authenticity" while still performing the parts of their personality that the audience wants, and how that can lead to burnout: <a href="https://youtu.be/8FJEtCvb2Kw?t=1399" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/8FJEtCvb2Kw?t=1399</a>

J. Ezbet

Hi Danny. Thanks so much for this podcast. I'm so sorry to hear about your acquaintance. You've reminded us that you never know what people are going through. With the stigma of mental illness, so many people feel like they can't open up for support or get the help they need. I've experience this from three perspectives: I'm a social worker and I did clinical work, psychotherapy, in a psychiatric hospital for years with adolescents and adults who had survived suicide attempts; I had a close friend was successful in killing herself; and I have had my own recurrent periods of depression. My current social work employment gives me lots of opportunity to advocate on behalf on those with mental illness and I enjoy that. Still, I face that same stigmatization with my own experience. I will feel nervous when I hit Post. We can say "tell someone how you feel" but working against stigmatization so it's SAFE for people say how they feel is really important, too. I appreciate that you chose to spend time on your podcast to give an immediate, compassionate response to what happened with your acquaintance. Thank you. Bomb squad option: doing that work requires certain physical and mental skills and a LOT of education and training. On a related note, I recommend a movie called The Hurt Locker - it won an exceptional number of Oscars and I thought it was great. Bike Share: I'm so glad to hear of your positive experience with bike share in Seoul! Biking is my favorite way to explore new places. Now I will plan on using it a lot during my stay. Thanks for the route recommendation, too! Great podcast!

Frank Ansak

Good podcast! And I hope everyone appreciates my lip smacking comment so that they too are aware of it and can enjoy the sounds Danny makes. Lol! I think the bomb squad option is still a form of punishment based on my assumption that they would suffer more injuries, stress etc than the regular troops. This is assuming there is no conflicts/actually warfare. Many countries with conscription have conscientious objectors fulfill all sorts of non-violence lower-skilled( that don't necessarily require much training) positions in the government. Personally having them work in some the environmental associated area of governments would be best like the Departments of Forestry/Natural Resources/Fisheries etc... Maybe have them serve a few months more if people think they are getting off easy? I assume the bike option is really not viable during the harsher part of winter...For how long? (How many months)

dkdktv
>>16803024

It's good to hear that you have won over your depression. I think the word depression - at least in Korean (우울증, which would be closer translated to 'somber disease') - has put a thought in people's minds that it's about feeling sad or depressed and helpless. Since people think they can control their feelings, or think that feelings are a passing thing, they think of people with the illness as weak. Perhaps if people were made aware that it's a biochemical reaction that is involuntary, people might start to think otherwise. And regarding the scooter share thingy, I was so jealous of it when I saw it in Atlanta this summer. We don't have one here in Korea right now, and I can definitely see the Korean government turning up a fuss about its safety if any brave companies do decide to try it out. Personal mobility devices in general are considered dangerous here, so I don't see the shared electric scooter services coming here anytime soon :(

dkdktv
>>16808139

Thanks. The mic makes my voice sound sultrier than life haha. I am watching the video you suggested, and it's super interesting. Thanks for suggesting it to me. A lot of the things she says is really how I feel, and it's also something a lot of other Youtubers I know feel too. We have regular meet ups in the Korean Youtuber community, and literally 80% of the discussions are about the emotional burdens of being a character.

dkdktv
>>16816656

Yeah if we could get a safe environment to talk about our emotions that would be great. However, it seems the older I get the less attention I put into my emotions. I just don't have the time and neither do the others. This probably creates a loop that exposes some of the more emotionally sensitive ones to dangerous situations. Anyway, I'm glad you are helping those in trouble out. I would love to do some campaign helping those with mental illness too in the future. Utilizing my Youtube channel. Especially after this incident last week. And regarding the Hurt Locker - I watched it. Awesome movie, so freaking intense, and of course I doubt the conscientious objectors would accept that as an alternative.

dkdktv
>>16859597

Frank - I was half joking and half serious about the bomb squad thing haha. But yeah, it's probably unrealistic and I think the options you provided are probably more feasible. And regarding the bike - They sell 180 day passes for about 15 dollars. So I just use that from May~November. Past mid November til around early April, it's too cold to bike really.

Frank Ansak
>>16859597

San Francisco has several private bike companies, nothing subsidized or government run. Costs seem to be at least double as Seoul. Plus, it is not as spread out to all, or even the majority of the city. Kind of sad since SF is not that big. There were also several private powered-scooter companies They have created a lot of "problems"through people's misuse,etc... Companies did "unapproved" launches so the City banned them and now the SF Transit Agency (over-sees buses/trolleys/cable cars, traffic/parking, taxis recently this Sept gave 2 companies contracts to set up business. I don't really keep track of it since the are not at all practical for me. Btw what is the average bus/ subway fare? I have used public transportation in SF for years.

Annalise

Hi Danny - I know I'm very late, this is such an old podcast but I just want to thank you for saying so many nice things about my religion. I was a little nervous when I saw you talked about being a conscientious objector so I skipped to that part first because I wanted to hear your thoughts. And you said such nice things, calling us peaceful and being happy on our behalf. Thank you so much. I'm very happy for my brother's in South Korea and for their families as well. Again, I just want to say thank you for speaking so kindly about our religion. And don't worry about people suddenly becoming a Jehovah's Witness to avoid military service, because it's actually quite hard to become a Jehovah's Witness. It's not something you can just sign up for, so that won't be a problem. Anyway if you ever have questions about our religion then feel free to ask me.