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Failure (Patreon)

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2017-05-01 17:17:20
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Nico made many mean jokes in the past, I knew it was part of his raw sense of humour and it never really bothered me. But this time, he definitely crossed the line. 

He can call me a "failure" all he wants, cause I've never been successful in my career. But Joe has been nothing but nice to him. It's horrible of him to call Joe a failure. 

And I don't care if it's because of his BIG depression or his medicines or his real personality, I'm done helping him. At this point, I'm not even sure I want to keep him as a friend. Anyway, we haven't been in touch since that day. Period.

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Steven

I've been there. I'm sorry you have to go through this but thank you for sharing with us. I don't know you but I love your art and hope you're feeling better each day about the Nico situation :)

Anonymous

😢 I'm sorry to read this. Friends are like family and their should never be such mean spirited words exchanged between family. He needs to make amends for this. If it matters to you, you should try to resolve this and put it in the past. Move forward but let him know that you won't tolerate such things from anyone!

Anonymous

Hugs. It sucks when people say horrible things in anger, you can never be sure if it's what they really think. Probably he just wanted to make you feel as bad as he does but that doesn't mean you have to take it.

sebastian1120

Sometimes we cannot intervene in the private lives of friends, especially the emotional aspect

Anonymous

You are NOT a failure, if you're are doing any profession you love it's never a failure! Some people do not realize that. As for brining in Joe that was totally uncalled for. Looks like he just wanted to knock down your confidence in the fastest easiest way. I wouldn't take it totally to heart, he felt like you insulted him so he struck back in defense. I would give it some time and then revisit the friendship to see where to go, and especially clarify not to bring others spouses into it.

Anonymous

I dont think you are a failure as a comic artist . I enjoy your artwork!

C.Amaury

Be brave 💪🏻 he will regret what he said. It's tuff when someone you care hurt you like that 🙁 The most important thing it's to know that your not a failure neither are joe and i'm proud to help you earn your life and do what passionate about 😉

Müller Fernandes

You have a great Soul man. I do not have the correct amount of self control and altruism to tolerate that kind of toxic personality in someone I call friend.

Teddy

Sorry to see this. These word r really hurtful especially they come from one intimate friends. Usually we all judge people including our friends in our mind but we all know these should not allow to speak out. Ur friends must be really angry so that lost his mind. Hope u could ignore this hurtful conversation and go through. No one could judge u just because ur job or income. That's very superficial.

Anonymous

heyy hunn, firstly, you and your partner are never a failure. i get inspired by both of you in every strip. as of your friend, maybe both of you should take a lil break. i understand how you feel but don't give up on others buddy. a lil time can actually fix this up. he did said out hurtful stuffs, let him digest it and he might realize that he was wrong. been there, felt those. hang in there buddy ! 😊

Wesley Zhou

Those are very hurtful comments. Your friend thinks he's in love and people are crazy when they are in love, or they think they are in love. I think you did the right thing but not getting in touch. But on the other hand, when my friends are in a relationship, I tend to stay away from them, because that's their relationship and that's their life. If they want to hurt, it's their decision to do so. As a friend, I want you to be happy, but that's no reason for me to take up your negative energy while you crawl back to sleep alongside your "loved one".

Andrew King

I was wondering how this will end. "Hugs" hopefully things will turn out okay in the end. And best not to disconnect from him. He'll need some help if it falls apart.

Danny Provencio

Am so sorry. Never expected this. So sad for a friendship to end this way but until he finds his way guess it's best. Again so sorry

Edgar Oseguera

Ouch, I definitely don't think you or Joe are failures. I think Nico has a delusional or completely superficial idea of what success means. I think the best thing to do is give him some space. It sucks when people we love hurt us, I feel that he is going through a lot of internal struggles and feels he needs to compensate for his own disappointments. I think he needs to realize that on his own through his own stubborn demise

Anonymous

You are the strong one here and contrary to his view, you are very successful and happy! Depression is a nasty thing and given your betrayal of him, depression might have a stronger grip on him than you will ever understand. He will regret this one day but needs to get out of the fog of depression.

Julie Priest

I'm sorry to hear what happened. I know it is difficult but try not to take what he said to heart. As you've said, he's going through a rough patch, and that shouldn't be an excuse. Unfortunately, friends know us the best, and whilst that's great, it also means they know our weak spots especially when angry words are said. I hope it all works out. Xxx

Yu-Chiang Hsu

Gotta show him how you got over 9000+ patrons (😁)

Rian

Don't be ruled by another person's comments. Success and happiness are personal. You're the only author of that storyboard. 👍💪

GL

Sweety cheer up! I don't want to see that sad face! You are not a failure! Do you see how many of us there are here waiting for you to post your daily comics? You should be proud to be following your passion. You are not begging for money, you are selling the hard work of your art, which is very different. I personally decided to support you exactly because I DID NOT want you to have to stop what you are doing! Keep at it! You have a loving relationship and and an engaged audience, if that's a failure I don't know what you can call success! There will be always someone bigger, better, richer, more successful, etc. than all of us, but instead of always thinking about those people ahead, let's think about all of those who are behind and look up to us. In your case there are certainly many more! Look at what you did with me: I don't even know you, and yet just by reading your stories you were able to convey such strong emotions that if I saw your so-called friend right now I would punch him in the face!

Andrew Goebel

I am sorry that you and your relationship has been disrespected.

Afan Huang

A failed comic book artist? I disagree with him. Your art work brings me joy every day. My contribution on Patreon to you, in another way to say, can be taken as I bought this joy from you too. You're not a failed artist. I think you're an great artist, for me, also a successful web artist. :)

William Deutsch

I didn't see this coming, I do agree with your statement. I hope eventually that Nico has enough balls to at least apologize. After that, it's still up to you on continuing the friendship. Take care of you and your loving man.

Antony Lowbridge-Ellis

To be fair, as a friend, you probably shouldn't have judged his relationship. Even if it was just for sex, if he and his partner were okay with that, why is that your problem.

Brett Bugeja

Why are people so obsessed with being a success?

Anonymous

I think, he got angry because you pointed your self and your boyfriend as the perfect couple, the way it should be and since he doesn't have this he just tried to defend him self in a a bad way... I don't think he really mean all the things he said, but that's the lesson even with the closest friend, we have always to be careful about the way we say stuff... you need just to say to him... I don't want you to be hurt, because I love you Nico... and well I don't want to be rude but at our age having a relationship with someone so young... well might be not the best thing don't you think? But maybe I'm wrong... Maybe he understand better, but... is true that the stuff that came out of his mouth... hey... they were really bad. And this is not mature at all not even if the person is under depression. All the best for you Inkollo

petherbcl

😕 Don't be sad. Sometime people say something like that just to make you feel bad. And Nico, with is depression historical, just felt like you attack him when you said that you think the new date will not work. Just try talk to him, just say that the new date is his business and you will be there for him and say that what he said about you and Joe hurts you and you are sad with him. But don't let this make you apart. Hope you too make peace again. 😘

MarkU2

See I told you Song

Daniel Chan

Your comic portrayal shows Nico criticizing what you and Joe do to earn a living, not about your stable relationship. Also, he's turned the discussion away from him and onto you. I think he doesn't want the criticism, and he's probably longing for a relationship, so he doesn't want to hear about potential failure. That's my two-cent, armchair analysis.

cakecake

Ah, it feels strange to thank you for what seems to be a painful moment to illustrate, but thank you indeed for sharing a poignant but perhaps very sad part of your relationship with Nico. I'm a soft heart so I do hope maybe there is a chance for reconciliation in the future, but I understand that sometimes words can permanently wound. :/ excellent storytelling and art as always Song! Big hugs as you navigate this difficult moment!

SiL Figaro

You are NOT a failure. Nico is the failure because he's given up. There is NO SHAME in getting money from Patreon. It's called crowdfunding and EVERYONE does it now. He's in a bad place Maybe on a downward spiral. Maybe he's trying to figure out who he is now that he's not the rich doctor. But you yourself get to decide when you can no longer help

Marc Guo

Personality, I just think the statements from both of you are just mad talking. The reason why Nico said so much bad things about you is because you do not believe him too. But deeply, I don't think he means it and just want to revenge. Do you know what kinds of people can hit us very badly? Its the people we care and love. Therefore, maybe, you guys need a leisure tea time to catch up and deal with these issues.

Eric Closs

Failed??? Uhm, last time I checked, you have 1200 paying customers on Patreon, and I would say that would classify you as Successful 🙂 He's just jealous of your success, and your relationship. Hugs and kisses from Canada 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘🇨🇦

Anonymous

I will say that pointing to your relationship didn't help, especially since he's trying to find semblance of love. However, that doesn't excuse his comments. I agree that you need distance for a while to gather your thoughts and to weigh if this friendship is still worth it. Remember friendships are relationships and sometimes need to be broken up with. Furthermore, how you and Joe make your living shouldn't be criticized. What I always tell people as long as it pays your bills then why should anyone be worried about it unless they're willing to pay them.

Anonymous

Somehow I thought Joe was younger than you... Anyway, I heard that occasionally person who has depression tend to be aggressive against around people. It might be not too bad that you keep distance frome Nico temporarily. But I hope you keep your friendship for him.

Taneaux

U should tell him that U use ur talented gift to make us enjoy ur work. im the one who is enjoy ur work, always!

Tim Clements-Levin

Song, give it time and distance for awhile. If your friendship is meant to be healed, there will be progress. At this point, I feel HE would have to make the first gesture to heal, after what he said about you and Joe. Hugs...

Danny Arbaugh

Please don't listen to him! You have fans that respect you and love your work! You're wonderfully talented and happy with Joe. Don't let Nico's negativity affect you. You don't deserve that treatment. Take care! 💚

Chi

Oh, boy!

Jena and Paw are married now

Wow you need to protect yourself from that kind of "friends". Avec des amis comme ça, pas besoin d'ennemis...

ROBBIEDOUGGIE

You two are too good for him, at least for now it's true. For me personally, a friend who crossed the line definitely does not deserve to hear from me any more. You did the right thing. And just forget his "failure" comment, all these love messages from your loving fans show you how much you and your work mean to us. Cheer up buddy! Lots of love❤️

Juan

Such an asshole

Carlos

That's horrible. After all the ways you tried to help. I can relate. This year I was blocked by a friend whom I was there for at really tough moments in his life and for a reason that made no sense.