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THE SHINING FULL REACTION (Patreon)

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2024-03-17 04:44:17
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2024-03-30 05:02:11
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OpheliaObscura

Welp, looks like I'm staying up all night

TN Media

Woah, and here I was gonna look for a comedy to watch before bed… NOPE! Definitely gonna watch this

Jake Martin

Mr. L. Boyd, I can't even describe the hellish boredom you have saved me from- AGAIN. If I wasn't already a patron, I'd sign up all over again. Also, man: I realize you're busier than a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest, but if you ever have the time, I'm sure you'd enjoy a documentary about the film called "Room 237". Not for reacting, but for your own edification.

Jose Callo

Fuck sleep I guess, time to stay awake till 2am

Mega Reacts

Literally just read my mind.

Carl Lyngholm

40 minutes in and it just occurred to me that you seem to be missing a scene where Wendy is talking to a doctor about Danny where we're told that Jack injured him by "accident" at some point in the past. Been awhile since I've seen this film so maybe it actually happens later than I thought it did, but I'm almost positive that's not the case. Anyway, I hope that at least YOU saw it as it adds important context to the movie and is referred back to later in the film.

Jake Martin

Dude, you're right. Good catch. Could that scene only be in certain cuts of the movie? Cause it does seem important for context, but perhaps not essential

Mega Reacts

It is more surprising Jack has a seat belt on due to the time of this films shooting. No one used to wear seat belts.

Carl Lyngholm

So, I actually did a bit of research and MRLBOYD seems to be watching a version I didn't even know existed called "The European Cut". It's about 30 minutes shorter than the US version. I agree that the scene isn't "essential", but it does establish both Jack's tendency to get violent when drunk and Wendy's habit of rationalizing Jack's bad behavior.

Mister_Bleak

Crazy film. I kind of think it was a mix of madness and persuasion into that madness by spirits of the hotel. I like to think that people get added to the photo as they are killed on hotel grounds. Really not certain. they leave things very open to interpretation. great one to watch though.

MRLBOYD

I didn't know there were different versions

Carl Lyngholm

Neither did I, apparently... Obviously other scenes were cut out or trimmed as well in this version, but after watching the shorter film for the first time, the scene with the doctor my prior post mentioned is really the only part that I believe kind of hurt the film by not being included.

David Melo

Kubric is a film nerd for sure, and he is also the focus of many film nerds for the very reasons you mentioned. Symbolisms, lots and lots of symbolisms. I think you got a good glimpse of it. Broadly, the cycles of violence starting with the genocide of the native americans. The hotel seems to absorb the energy and the souls. So the final shot could be that the hotel absorbed another soul but it could also mean the reincarnation thing.

Mike

Stanley Kubrick is beyond a film nerd, he was an obsessive perfectionist. Notorious for, "not printing anything before the 35th take", doing his own cinematography, and so many other idiosyncrasies. He is one of the greats, I think. Not my favorite, or even top ten, but supremely talented. His wikipedia page is worth a read, for his process, if nothing else. Also, the reason that Shelley Duvall is so screamy, and out of it seeming... Is that she was, Kubrick terrorized her. Keep her up weird hours, screamed at her, while constantly praising Nicholson. Commanded that no one talk to her, or give her any sympathy. He made her do 127 takes of screaming and crying, in the scene where she hits him with the bat. Like, the actress's hair started falling out. And he did it all on purpose, to get her to the right emotional state for him. Shit is wild, and super fucked up. Hitchcock was famous for doing the same thing.

Vulgata-Sam

3;35am just finished up. need to cool off after watching this .

Lonna Neil

A must watch once a year. ❤️ this movie and your reaction

John Dodo

First time watching this movie start to finish and since you mentioned full metal jacket I noticed they used the same sound effect from pvt pile bathroom scene and the kid outside room 237. Don’t think I would have noticed it unless you brought up full metal jacket

David Nettles

When is your merch gonna be available?

Teth

If you watched this I highly recommend seeing the sequel Dr Sleep as well. Kubrick's cinematography is beautiful, but he cut out everything that made King's story and characters interesting. Dr Sleep does a fantastic job of tying both the movie and novel together in a way that does both justice, which is something I've never seen before with adaptations.

Teth

How interesting! I always thought one of the unfortunate things about the casting is that Jack comes across as a lunatic monster from the beginning rather than a tragic character at the mercy of his own weakness. Maybe not including that scene evens things out a bit more for new viewers.

Teth

Yes, I have to read it as more of a meta-commentary or something that happens once the hotels has claimed a soul. If Jack's fate actually was inevitable, it removes any agency and accountability from him.

Garrie Morris

They did a sequel to this called Dr. Sleep. You should check that one out. It continues Danny's story as an adult.

Ivan Lalik

Love your reactions to these horror style movies and how you seem to correctly analyze and asume the meaning of things in them. Although you sir have a weird food palate I can't wrap my head around you hating on chocolate or vanilla ice-cream 🤔 top two classic flavours 🍦

slimsycentaur37

Kubrick loves to put patterns just to put patterns. I wouldn't look much into them. It's a fruitless result unless you just want to go down an endless rabbit hole. They are there for the sake of being there.

GaryJerryLarry

A couple of alcohol-related notes... Bourbon is actually a type of Whiskey, and "Hair of the dog that bit me" is a way of saying give me the thing that made me happy earlier but later switched to making me miserable (ie: give me some alcohol even though I'll regret it later / so I stop feeling hungover)

Scott Asher

Scenic Aerial shots and Lodge Exterior shots are of Timberline Lodge, a ski resort on Mt Hood, about an hour east of Portland, Oregon. I grew up skiing at Timberline in the early 90s and this movie always freaked me out. It'll be fun to watch as an adult.

Scott Asher

This was the 70s, I don't think back seats had seatbelts. The crazy thing about that scene is that the driver has a shoulder strap... must be a pretty new car.

gak9319

Never actually seen this movie, but I know the story well. The Simpsons and South Park have both done a parody. And I have seen pieces of the story in a lot of other things.🙂

gak9319

I've seen the "white man's burden" refered too as the "burden" of "civilising" the "lesser" races. Specifically the "burden" of the Anglo empires. Rudyard Kipling I think 🤔

Anabel Gonzalez

Jack Nicholson has a great trayectory, worth to explore, most of them are pretty old but great, One flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest, Chinatown, also his portrait as the Joker in the first Burton’s Batman, hope we get to see more of him around here 😊

Donald's Cloaca

Kubrick is the GOAT. I'd love for you to check out some of his other films like 2001 A Space Odyssey and A Clockwork Orange. Even his old black & white movies are absolutely wild and excellent.

Lonnie Vannatter

I love this movie i also loved how they worked it into the virtual reality version in the movie Ready Player One. Thats one of my favorite scenes well that and "Its fucking Chucky!" was epic to. I like how referenced day Tuesday to during this time period most movies were either released on Friday in major cities in the United States and on Tuesdays in other parts of the United States in fact on Tuesday May 27th 1980 New York Times reported that the film had made over 1 million dollars since its release on the 23rd. Also telling Jack Nicholson not to be grouchy is like telling Elton John not to act like he is gay...lol

trueyinyang

I have loved this movie since it came out

Preferred User

Bourbon has to come from a specific region... but it's whiskey. Think of it like the difference between Champagne and sparkling wine.

Preferred User

Now that you've seen this movie... remember the carpet... then go back and watch Toy Story... muahahahahaha

Lonnie Vannatter

Also apparently Starfleet only installs tractor beams and torpedoes on Tuesdays... Also medical staff and other important staff member do not report for duty until Tuesday well to be fair maybe Mondays were so hated in the 23rd century that they decided to get rid of Mondays all together!!!!lmao

Preferred User

oh... and you can watch ready player 1 now too.

Isaac

There’s actually a conspiracy theory that Kubrick filmed the Apollo moon landing to make it look real and that this film was his way of admitting to it. Lots of cool clues. This movie is definitely worthy of a rewatch, you’ll notice new things every time.

Teth

The Witches of Eastwick is his best role by far. Uncannily perfect casting.

TigerMyth

Lol. Everyone who smoked, smoked wherever and whenever they wanted. Most businesses allowed smoking in the office. People didn't wear seatbelts. Hell, some cars didn't even have them. I'm shocked Jack had one on. Good thing he was driving a small car. If Danny was up front without a belt you might have had a stroke. Young kids sat up front, rode in the back of trucks. Anywhere you could stuff them. Of course back then, you didn't have a center console and there was one long seat up front. You could get 4 people up there. lol.

Donald's Cloaca

This is probably one of the most analyzed and theorized films in history. My personal take is the whole film is about how humans get away with abusing other humans, and what it takes to break the cycle of abuse. This is shown in the micro through the story of an abusive father, a passive mother, and a child who can see the truth but can't express it. But the abuse theme is reinforced through the native American subtext and symbolism. The hotel being built on top of native American burial ground symbolizes how America as a whole is built on the bodies of Native Americans who were slaughtered by their colonizers. Regarding the bear, there's a popular theory that Danny was not only physically abused by Jack, but sexually. The bear is meant to symbolize Danny based on objects found in his bedroom early in the movie. The scene where Wendy sees the man in the bear suit performing fellatio is her coming to terms with who Jack really is. Also, yes, this is one of the first movies to use Steadicam and they use it to great effect.

TigerMyth

The Stanley Hotel in 1974, King's creation of the Overlook was rooted in reality, many of the visual descriptions stemming from his stay at The Stanley. Though the now-famous hotel seen in Kubrick's film adaptation of the novel doesn't physically exist, the director used exterior shots of Oregon's Timberline Lodge, while the interior was largely inspired by the Ahwahnee Hotel in Yosemite National Park, California.

TigerMyth

The book does a much better job of showing the Hotel drive Jack insane. In the movie he seems like an asshole before the Hotel even starts messing with him. I don't hate the movie but I really loved the book so I was never a fan of the movie.

Braavosi

Classic movie. I thought the documentary on this "Room 237" was interesting.

Teth

The bear thing is IMO one of the worst results of Kubrick's tendency to use self-referencing imagery in his sets. Even with the characters being shadows of themselves in the adaptation, it's not a story about that kind of abuse, and Wendy certainly isn't passive about Danny's safety. She *immediately* blames Jack when he shows up with bruises. The cycle of abuse is never broken in the movie, because Jack never breaks free of the hotel's influence, or even seems to have any desire to. Since the moment they arrive it's as if he's been waiting for the opportunity to grab the axe.

Susan B

My first Kubrick film was 2001: a Space Odyssey. Genius. All done with practical effects.

Susan B

Lots of details in this set that are there to make the viewer feel that something is “off.” Like when Jack walks toward the office for the job interview, you can see that there is an interior hallway behind the office. But inside the office is a view of the outdoors where that hallway should be. It’s something we don’t pick up on until we watch one of the films that analyze this one, but it keeps us off-kilter.

Susan B

Apollo 11 references are a wink to conspiracy theorists who think Kubrick was hired to fake the moon landing.

Susan B

The documentary Room 237 analyzes the hell out of this film. It’s obsessive and entertaining

Susan B

“You’ve always been the caretaker.” Chilling.

Susan B

Kubrick’s sci fi film 2001 is made for film nerds. You gotta see it! A cerebral space-travel masterpiece from the 70s, using practical effects and one of the most gorgeous musical scores ever.

Susan B

Truth! The one Kubrick film that I disliked was Eyes Wide Shut. His body of work is legendary. He’s a genius, and sometimes geniuses are assholes as he was to Shelly Duvall (Wendy) when filming this movie. She has talked about the abusive work environment (created only for her, to elicit the version of Wendy that we see onscreen) and it effectively sent her on a downward spiral. Still, a classic film with so many details worth studying.

Susan B

A film-nerd fun fact: Kubrick shows a red VW Beetle wrecked on the road, allegedly as a middle-finger to Stephen King, who has the family arriving at the hotel in a red VW Beetle.

Susan B

Was the Steadycam created for this film? I remember a lot of buzz about the scenes following Danny on his tricycle in the hotel. Those scenes still make me tense up at every corner, even though I’ve watched The Shining half a dozen times.

Susan B

Yep. Got my first job in 1977 and there was a huge ashtray on everyone’s desk, so I started seriously smoking cigarettes.

DripCarayBBX

My friends and I were snowed in for 3 days in our vacation cabin in Denver. Internet was out. They had the audacity to leave two copies of The Shining in the property. It was all we had to entertain ourselves.

Teth

A Clockwork Orange is unfortunately an even worse case of Kubrick twisting the message of the source material to create something less complex and more cynical instead. In this case it's the outright opposite of the novel. He's a great visual filmmaker, but his adaptations are weaker the more complex the original work is because it exposes the lack of emotional depth in his style. But everyone should see 2001 A Space Odyssey. It's remarkable, probably especially for a trekkie!

Teth

At least it wasn't the Thing? 😂

Joseph Miley

Always reminds me how young you are when you are shocked by a parent in the 70s smoking at the breakfast table or kid in the back seat with no seatbelt...yep that was what it was like as a kid in the 70s

TigerMyth

I said the same thing. He is going to flip out when he sees a movie or tv show with young kids in the front seat with no seatbelt or young kids in the back of a pickup truck.

Susan B

I was born in 1955 and have an early memory of helping my mom arrange cigarettes in a little porcelain cig holder than was put out for guests. 😬

Susan B

After reading The Shining, some friends and I climbed to the top of an old lighthouse and saw REDRUM painted in red in the room at the top. We skedaddled down those creaky old stairs at light speed.

Susan B

Yes, I remember a poignant moment near the end of the book that would not have worked in Kubrick’s film: Jack snapping back to reality for just a moment and saying to Danny, “Run away, and remember that I love you.” Stephen King’s Jack was a good person at heart, driven mad by the shining. Kubrick’s (and Nicholson’s) Jack is mean AF pretty much from the start.

Susan B

Hahahahaha! Love this story. I was in my early 20s when the book The Amityville Horror was a bestseller. Roommate and I were both reading our copies one night when we thought we heard a noise in the bathroom. Also, we were high on a dime bag of cannabis, which made credible the idea that a demon was hiding behind the shower curtain. We grabbed the nearest weapons - a wire coat hanger and a metal Revlon nail file - and confronted the unknown together, while crying. Then we laughed until we peed in our pants. Ah, youth.

Teth

I was absolutely shocked by all the smoking in the book. Not just indoors or in the bedrooms, but someone was literally smoking in the linen closet! 😱 I remember what it was like in the 90s, but my god! 🤣

Daufhin Thorndike

I was born in 1972 and NOBODY I knew bothered to wear thier seatbelt in the 70's or 80's

Daufhin Thorndike

Yup. Nobdy was wearing seatbelts in the 70's or 80's even

Daufhin Thorndike

Do you really not know who Indians are? I was shocked when you were confused why people from India were attacking a hotel in Colorado

Daufhin Thorndike

Every part of the hotel is heated to some degree. If it was not the pipes would freeze. The manager talked about this in his speech to Wendy when he told her to use the boilers heat different parts of the hotel on a rotating basis. The heat is rotated every day so that no part gets too cold. But you are not using all the boilers to heat the entire hotel at once. The more unused parts may get chilly, but never cold enough to see your breath.

VitaminPete616

I have written 2 books and show em for couple close friends. They told me these books are genius why u dont tryna publish them. 1 friend told me ´´yeah they are like saga´´ I got angry and told him there are references to the 1st book but story and characters are totally different. Just basically ´´How dare you´´ But i think every writer fails being original after couple books, meaning they have references and same old characters basically ´´all over again´´ De Ja Vu syndrome. But this movie is debated even nowdays, theories about real ending and BS like that. I know some theories are very accurate coz Stanley Kubrick was literal genius.

VitaminPete616

How many Jack Nicholson movies u´ve seen Boyd now? 2-3? My ultimate favorite is One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) Its based on mental institution. Its heart warming, shocking and absolute masterpiece by Milos Forman. I remember that movie came from telly some odd years ago. My dad was questioning who directed this movie ´´its absolutely breathtaking´´ I said straight Milos Forman. Dad asked me how do u know this? I said i saw absolute masterpiece of a movie RN and opening credits

VitaminPete616

Same actors BTW is on that movie Nicholson and RIP Scatman Crothers (1910-1986)

VitaminPete616

They liked each other Scatman and Nicholson

VitaminPete616

Nicholson is known as huuuuge Lakers fan (NBA) Hes become such a legend, but obvious reasons he cannot come every Lakers game. But when he does, ofc he gets best seats. He usually comes Lakers games with hes grandson....heh, players comes to talk with Nicholson all the time. First hes grandson was, as a kid like WTF? I guess then he realized who hes granpa is.

VitaminPete616

Yes. Stanley Kubrick was a nerd and a perfectionist. There are about 1000+ theories evolving around this movie. Beauty is, make up ur mind...yes The Shining book is written by Stephen King, but Stanley Kubrick´s vision do not fallow that book at all...for most part. He saw Stephen Kings theory and put hes own spin to it. Stephen King hated idea that Kubric outshined him ironic, yes---coz everybody remember Kubrics vision of Shine

VitaminPete616

Stanley Kubrick had IQ over 200. Everything has almost purpose. He made a film that enchanced Stephen King book about 50x times

VitaminPete616

Key and Peele comedy was right on the money. Scetch was continental breakfast....And+ Jordan Peele has directed couple very unsetlling horror movies, Jordan does not deny, says learned from the best!

Kylynn Walton

Every comment about Mr. Hallaran (Scatman) had me cracking up. This is hands down the only Stephen King novel I’ve enjoyed that didn’t terrify me (too bad) and I love the movie as well. When I think of Scatman Crothers, I think of this and the Aristocats. He’s the voice of Scat Cat. I haven’t scrolled enough passed here to see if you’ve watched Doctor Sleep, but if you haven’t reacted to it yet, please give it a shot! It’s actually a really great sequel.

slimsycentaur37

Going back and watching this with my upmost attention I find many of the "patterns" and "clues" you are seeing are purely continuity errors or real life impossibilities because it's a set. Matter of fact for someone who prides themselves on hating continuity errors I'm surprised you didn't point out obvious ones like the carpet pattern changing one cut to the next in the same scene when Danny is playing with his toys on the floor, the freezer door opening up on one side then opening up on the reverse side from one scene to the next, or characters from one scene switching physical positions to the very next cut scene as it progresses. Just a few obvious examples. Kubrick gets credit for mistakes because people think he's a genius, and he was told he was, so nothing is ever unintentional mistakes for his films. Are these carefully meticulously placed clues or just obvious filming errors? Which is the most likely? I think he was an extraordinary filmmaker but is not infallible. Also most of the weird imagery like the bear suit man and many of the spirits haunting the hotel were actually explained in depth in the novel and Kubrick left those explanations out for unknown intentions. People will say "oh no he's leaving it ambiguous on purpose or it's so obvious this or that means this" but their points really are just conjecture.