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In the last pivot video I showed how I lured the pivot so that he understood how to move his hind legs independent of his front legs. During that video he is moving with my body as I move.

In this video I do a combination of shaping and luring to start have him move his hind end independent of my body. I use a lure over his head and when he moves his feet to look at the lure, I mark and reward. Ideally, we are marking in motion.

You'll see that he gets stuck at a few different points. One time is when he needs to turn away from me and past my legs. I decide to direct lure that portion so that he got it really quickly. He comes back and is able to do it without the direct lure.

I should probably talk more about this in a separate video, but I used to be a shaping purist, as in, I would rarely combine luring and shaping, but over the years I decided that having the dog get it quickly without error can sometimes be helped along by a little luring, or strategic food placement.

Watch how when he gets stuck I throw the food across my body. Doing so sets him up to immediately move his hind end once he hits the box, giving me something to mark for right away.

A bit of a messy session but I'm so pleased with how quickly he understood the assignment. I'm hoping to put all of these pivoting videos together for a future deep dive, but I took a break from pivots for a bit once he got the gist so that will have to wait until I resume and polish the behavior :)

Note that I learned a similar method as shown here from Hannah Brannigan but have modified it for my use and the dog in front of me. Also, Hannah would absolutely have a fit if she saw the way I help him with small hand placement adjustments 😂, so if you want to learn the original method from the master, check out Hannah Brannigans book "Awesome Obedience".

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Earth2Wendy

Boy he picked that up fast!! My sense is that “lure/reward” training got a bad rap for awhile but has been rehabilitated and is now accepted as another useful tool alongside shaping. I started trying to train “pivot” with a strictly luring approach, by pulling the lure back alongside one shoulder as recommended in the example I’d seen, and accidentally taught a serious head flip in one direction just before the pivot (I think partially because we’d previously trained “look left” in that same way). It’s quite obvious in our TDA video submission. Ugh! I think Hannah’s way is great for preventing this, but I must have missed clicking some early movement, because I had a heck of a time getting this behavior started with it alone—I sure hope to do better with a future dog. Meanwhile, I’m glad to have your permission to use the odd “off label” tool in the moment!

Janene Crunkelton

Denver is the cutest!. My 10 month old puppy is going great with this however I am having to move my body more with the treats because he is so tall.

Ana

Ahhh what a coincidence! It’s the exact behavior we were training two days ago! My dog wasn’t getting the shaping though, but now that I’ve watched both pivot videos I’ll try teaching him how to move the legs independently first haha thanks!!

Flumazenil

I know I am late to the party but I am wondering if you teach him to pivot in one direction first and then the other once he has mastered the previous one or do you do interchangeable sessions for each side in a kinda balanced way?

DOGGY•U

I work both directions - not necessarily in the same session but in similar time frames so they're even.