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NEW APRIL LIVESTREAM LINK (Patreon)

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2022-04-26 20:06:41
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Hey friends! This is the new link for the livestream! Had a little bit of technical difficulty the first time around. If you're watching this after the fact, please write any questions you have below. 

Here is a link to the study on "no reward markers" (NRM) and a synopsis: 

- https://academicworks.cuny.edu/hc_sas_etds/12/

- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/canine-corner/201603/should-trainers-tell-dogs-when-their-behavior-is-wrong

Also, if you didn't catch it, when we're talking about harnesses, you want to think of a mullet: 

"Business in the front, party in the back"

Ie. front clip = focused loose leash walking training, back clip = party time/be a dog time :) 

Thanks Ya'll! 

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Melody Townsend

Thanks!! She seemed relieved and like “oh I get it” she’s so sweet and soft but a lil pushy, but mostly a soft lug nut! Then the second time I used it she ran back to the mat by herself, so that’s why it seemed to be helping, I just have a hard time with not saying something when she’s looking for a word. With Shimmer (sdit) it’s easier to say nothing. (As she’s not “searching” for the next word like Chloe is, if you know what I mean. Another quick question if it’s a sound with no words is that also a NRM? I think it would be but just want to learn properly. Thanks so much (example Victoria Stilwell’s “at at at” when they’re doing something wrong). Thanks SO MUCH!!!!!!! You are the bomb!!!!!!

DOGGY•U
>>82687745

Thanks Melody! Yes, it's still a no reward marker - in the study it was actually a single tone, as in no human inflection for the dog to be able to read as good or bad. I would argue that "at at at" could be a punisher (albeit VERY MILD) since it is associated with a negative human tone. Again, we are talking in ideal scenarios and minutia. I always say that dogs learn despite us sometimes instead of because of us lol! But just you being here, doing better for your dog every day is amazing :)

Melody Townsend

Ok that makes sense. A lot of sense thank you very much!!! I’m trying hard, I stopped force training in like the 90’s sometime! So I’m here to keep refining and getting better!! Thanks so much!! (Life has stopped blowing up 🤞🏻 so hope to get other info to you very soon thanks for hanging in here with me, I’m so slow cause of my health.

DOGGY•U
>>82688391

Hi Melody! I'm glad things are becoming more manageable on your end. "Slow" only works when comparing ourselves to others. You're on a journey only you can go on. No comparison here. I'm here when you're ready. No rush :)

g v

Thank you Laura for this livestream and answering all my questions. I know I asked too Many questions, it won't happen again. Sorry.

Teresita Acosta

Hi Laura and everyone in this community! I am learning so much from all these questions!! 💕 About humping; my dog doesn’t seam to mind other dogs (males or females) humping on him (I do mind)How do I teach him to “walk away” when this happens at a dog park?

DOGGY•U
>>82706426

Hey GV! I really love your enthusiasm and your interest in learning! Previously there has been no limit to questions set, so as the community grows, I'm just having some growing pains figuring out how to best meet everyones needs (and still keep things under an hour) :)

Timothy Larson
>>82707954

My dog had a cue (dogs looking at him) and his response was to react (often by growling, staring, etc). I wanted to shape this behavior to look at me when he felt anxious, so I had a "special treat" and when I noticed he was about to react, I would get his attention with "Hey Buddy", he would look at me, and get rewarded. After much patience, usually when he gets anxious, he will look at me (though I have been know to reward anything that is not a negative response, but eventually he will look up to me). And since dogs do this all the time, you get lots of examples to shape that behavior.

Melody Townsend

Laura thank you SO MUCH you are truly such a nice human being, it’s SO refreshing!!!!! 🤗🤗🤗

Rick Lees

when talking about reinforcing for relieving on leash you said to get them the treat within 3 seconds, do you wait for them to finish first?

Melody Townsend

I get a 404 when I follow the link to the research. Just fyi. Thanks

DOGGY•U
>>82759111

Hmmm - I just checked both and they are working for me. Try googling the title: Naomi Rotenberg (2015). Training a New Trick Using No-Reward Markers: Effects on Dogs’ Performance and Stress Behaviors. Master's Thesis, Hunter College, New York. CUNY Academic Works.

Patrick Hogan

Laura, I have to make a choice on a puppy at 6 weeks, that's this weekend. Am I just wasting time trying to test them? I can't put off choosing on until 7-8 weeks. The breeder won't wait that long.

DOGGY•U
>>82835426

I don't think assessing them is a waste to the extent that you can, while also getting feedback from the breeder. Assessment would be more to look for red flags than anything else. I picked Whip at 5.5 weeks due to her disc interest and that held out to be true. Some assessment is definitely better than none at all! :)