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S10 Med Retrieve: Item Discrimination S1 (Patreon)

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2023-05-01 18:00:02
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In this video I work on giving CoolWhip a better understanding of the named item of Medication (or "Meds"). To do this I also name another item "Ball" and introduce her trying to pick out which item I ask for in a group of items. 

Spending time helping her really grasp the name of the medication and picking it out from other known items will help her ignore distractions when asked to retrieve medication from a specific location with many distracting items. 

Tips: 

- Make the right thing easy and the wrong thing hard

- Name the item, then verb if you need to (ie. "ball. fetch") 

- Progress criteria slowly

Happy Training! 


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Earth2Wendy

Thanks so much for showing and explaining this! May I ask, is this a series of short, 2-minute sessions with naps in-between, or one long session, or something else? I recall you telling us once that guide dogs are trained for 45 minutes a day for months on end (but maybe not every day of the week?). I wonder how that is divided up within one day. For example is it done in 3, 15-minute sessions? Does your at-home training model follow the guide dog training model, in that you train for the same total number of minutes a day, divided up similarly? What I’ve understood from other sources is that training for about two minutes, then not training again until the dog has been able to sleep and thus integrate the lesson, is the most effective way to train. If this is too big a topic to cover here, maybe you could cover it elsewhere? In any case, thank you very much for showing how you methodically teach object discrimination while getting in lots of reps of the retrieve. As a former language teacher it reminds me of plugging in a variety of vocabulary while doing lots of reps of a particular sentence structure.

DOGGY•U
>>107609451

Hey Wendy! So this was several sessions broken up by a few minutes of break in between each session, but on the same day. Now, CoolWhip has a higher tolerance than most dogs for targeted training, but even so, you'll see each session is only a minute or two before a break and reset. During the break I will typically either do a cookie scatter, have her go lay down, or just do whatever she wants. Guide dogs - the way I train new behavior is not in the same way that guide's are trained. They're a bit of a different ball game and is very dependent on where they are in training. But typically when they start it's one 45 minute route a day - it's a bit different though because it's really like a long walk to start, broken up with some targeted curb training - so totally different model. As they progress in training you might do a targeted 5 minute session (like when training escalators) break in the crate for an hour, then another 5 minutes. Or route that includes resting at a table etc. But yeah, guides are just different. In general my sessions are 5-10 minutes of training at a time, but one skill is taught for only 1-3 minutes during that session. Sometimes I run long depending on the skill, but it really just depends. The above is generally the guideline I follow for both efficiency of my training time, and not overwhelming the dog during any one session. Again, this is for skill acquisition. If I'm doing a socialization session out and about, I may sit on a bench for 15-20 minutes while they eat a KONG - so just like everything else, the most annoying answer - "it depends" lol!

Earth2Wendy

Laura this was very helpful. Thank you for taking time to respond in detail. There are many “how tos,” fewer “full context” vids—tho I recall you did a terrific one on your morning routine. Glad I’m not too far off base, and I do understand “it depends.” Your overview of guide school vs. home training is very interesting to me. I don’t want to miss anything, and am always searching for the “secret sauce.” But I know it is TIME, applied with great skills, in a well-planned context. You’ve added to my understanding of “context.” Thanks so much!!!

Earth2Wendy
>>107656632

Yay! Just found the list of books and DVDs you mention starting on p. 20 of the CCPDT-KA handbook. Don’t know how i missed this before. (Probably own 1/3-1/2 of them!) But haven’t read most of them for years. Time to brush up! Thanks! :-D

Earth2Wendy

Also: tried your training pattern yesterday, going for 10 minutes, briefly reviewing several skills with cookie scatters in-between (a new idea for us that works great! Gives time to prep for next behavior :-) …). Also switched my bait bag to left side, reaching as you do for 1 treat per click. Still playing tug & retrieve before, during and after as well. The whole picture worked out very well. Treat delivery is slightly slowed vs. keeping treats in-hand, but I understand the reasoning about training with empty hands. I liked how it went and plan to continue. Just so you know we take your lessons to heart. :-)

Earth2Wendy

SUPER valuable insight from you to name the item first, THEN cue with the verb. Surprisingly not even John Pilley thought to do it this way with Chaser(!). (YouTube “Chaser Responds to the Combination of Verb and Noun Phrases”)

DOGGY•U
>>107810053

Sounds awesome Wendy! And just to be clear, I do often pre-load my hands, but only if I have to with a new dog, new skill, need for fast delivery, etc. You'll see me have my husband pre-load in a couple of the new videos because his rate of reinforcement gets too slow otherwise because he's not a dog trainer. So definitely do it when you need to, but get off the pre-load as soon as you can as well :) Glad the scatter worked! I love that for re-setting myself. I'll often keep my snuffle mat in the training room so the scatter takes longer and I have more time to have a think about my next moves.

DOGGY•U
>>107810887

RIGHT?? That wasn't from me. It was mentioned in my Atlas training course and I really hadn't thought much about it because most of the objects I use have one purpose. But I love the clarity there and have seen how effective it is!

AmmaVeez

Thank you so much! I am new to the community and this really helps!

DOGGY•U
>>107876971

I'm so glad it's helpful AmmaVeez! Welcome to the community! Glad to have you here <3

Melody Townsend

I just love watching u work!!!! This is awesome!! Also wanted to say thank you for your toenail trimming teaching we have finally got there with it and cat food!!!