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Clare W

so glad you enjoyed these, such a great finale to my favorite season. now onto the christmas special, my all-time favorite episode of doctor who! + i got tickets to see peter capaldi perform with his rock band in march! very happy to be rewatching doctor who in the run up to the concert

Helen

MVP definitely belonged to both of them. 12/Clara may be my favourite pair of characters ever. The S9 finale is absolutely brilliant. Heaven Sent was deservedly voted the best story in the show's history in the lead up to the 60th anniversary. Everyone was on fire for that episode: Moffat's script, Talalay's directing, Gold's music, the cinematography, everything! But most especially Capaldi's performance. He ripped my heart to shreds and still managed to end with a feeling of triumph. Amazing. Hell Bent is a bit more divisive in the fandom, but I might like it even more than Heaven Sent. Face the Raven was a beautiful send-off for Clara, but Hell Bent ties off their story beautifully. I'm so glad Clara got to keep her agency and hold on to her memories of the Doctor. The next episode is pretty special too. There are 2 Christmas Specials (2015 then 2016) before you get to S10, but they aren't linked stories. The only episode of Doctor Who in 2016 was the Christmas Special.

Jack Mingle

Hell Bent is definitely the perfect season finale,and yeah, many people wanted some grand Gallifrey showdown but I appreciate the more personal finale it ends up being.

JayPerView

That's so AMAZING!! Hope you have the best time at the concert 🙌🏻

DSJ.

ON HEAVEN SENT: If the last, billions-year old Doctor is 'just' a copy, then so is the first Doctor who was there. Being teleported once or a billion times over is the same thing - it's the same person. So if it ain't the Doctor, then nobody who ever teleports is ever the same person. I think Moffat put it best - when the First Doctor teleported somewhere, does he then become a different person? Maybe, but not really. A question for the philosophers, I guess! (And if the First Doctor teleported, then technically the Doctor has never been the same Doctor ever since...) Speaking of Moffat, here's a quote from an interview he did about this ep (no spoilers, it's just a fascinating writers' perspective): -beginning of quote- "Usually, big dramatic things happen in Doctor Who, then the next week everyone’s absolutely fine. I never found a way to have Amy and Rory grieve over their lost baby, and I still don’t know how I would do that. I could never work out how to write that. I’d think, ‘Well, hang on, they don’t lose the baby. The baby turned out to be two other people they already know and love – that’s not the same as losing a child.' You can’t say 'They’ve lost their baby,' because people watching who’ve actually lost babies would, understandably, think 'No, your baby’s fine. Your baby’s safe. That’s not the same.' You can’t portray that fantastical, whimsical sci-fi bereavement as the real thing, when the real thing has been endured by people in the audience. You’d be trivialising real-life tragedy. So I just cut forward several months, and rather ducked the issue – they processed that not-quite-loss off screen, which I wasn’t crazy about. In The Snowmen I tried to do the aftermath of the loss of Amy and Rory, but that's rather a romantic one, isn't it? It's the Doctor on a cloud with a spiral staircase. It 's a movie mourning. It's not like real despair. It's the greetings card version. So getting that kind of aftermath - loss and grief - right in Doctor Who was on my To Do List. Or on my Failure List, at any rate. They're both very long lists — I get them muddled. The problem is, Doctor Who is always about the new adventure, not the aftermath of the last one. Structurally, that's incredibly important to how the show works. So you have to make grief the centre of the story, not a hangover from last week getting in the way of a new adventure. Grief has to be the new adventure. I thought, 'If the Doctor loses Clara in the most horrific circumstance, a circumstance where events pass out of his control, but which is partly his own fault because he’s made somebody think that they can act like him, and they can't...' Essentially, l was thinking, ’What is grief? How do I make grief the monster of the week in Doctor Who?’ I thought, 'People always talk about grief as being alone,’ so I made the Doctor absolutely alone. Grief comes and finds you every time you stop or rest, so I gave him the Veil. And grief is waking up to the same pain every day, and trying to smash through it, so I gave him a diamond wall to punch for the rest of time. Basically, he wore away a mountain with his tears. So that was an attempt to do aftermath: an insane, sci-fl, operatic version of the Doctor's grief at losing Clara and trying to move on. I can see why people would think it was a gimmicky episode, God knows, I love a gimmick - but I was aiming for poetry. Tried for poetry, ended up with a gimmick. I’ve defined myself. That said, a guy I know wrote to me and said that his wife had died very recently. And then he had to sit through the Doctor punching the diamond wall in Heaven Sent and ‘It’s all the days they stay dead', but he wrote this long email to me about how important that was for him to hear. ‘The day you lose someone isn’t the worst. It's all the days they stay dead.' What he said was, ‘It’s nice that somebody gets that it’s shit. lt‘s just shit. That’s what losing someone is like.’ So I think we did something worthwhile there. There were probably enough people watching Heaven Sent saying, ‘What is this show? ls Doctor Who back on next week?’ Most people would probably have preferred the 'cut to several months later‘ option, so they could get on with the next adventure. But as an attempt to do aftermath and grief in Doctor Who, I felt that it was pretty good. That episode was a brave thing to do.” - end of quote - This episode can be appreciated as a stunning piece of television - the acting, the lighting, the dialogue, the shooting, the direction, the music, all of that and more comes together in a damn near perfect way. It's epic. But seeing it as what it really is - a meditation on grief, and, perhaps, mental illness - is what really sets it apart for this viewer, at least. Stuck in one's own mind, ruminating on the loss of the loved one, trapped by the torments that only one's own mind can provide... Astonishingly beautiful, and sad. One of the most astonishing episodes of television in history, quite simply. This was everyone at their very best - the writer, the director, the composer, the actor, and everyone else. Just brilliant. As Moffat knew (see the long quote above), it might not be to everyone's taste on first viewing. It's a weird one, very different from anything else in Doctor Who. But even if you don't get it on the first go, it's one of those ones that just creeps up on you over time and becomes unforgettably great. ON HELL BENT: Fun fact about Rassilon's regeneration - there's a short story in a collection about the Master in which it's said that after The End of Time, when the Master was back on Gallifrey, he shoved a load of white point stars down Rassilon's throat which made him regenerate lol. Also, considering Capaldi as a musician, funnily enough he was/is a singer (in his youth he was in a band with Craig Ferguson) - he's recently released some new songs/albums. I'm going to see him sing at a gig in Edinburgh next month. He also appeared on stage at Glastonbury this year, aura farming, as the kids say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1KNCAgkpko. I could watch Capaldi and Coleman act together forever - they have such rare chemistry together. I always preferred Clara with Twelve rather than Eleven - she becomes more real and flawed rather than just a mystery. I like how the Hybrid is left ambiguous. It echoes the fact that this episode was billed as a big epic like The End of Time - a conflict between Time Lords/Rassilon and the Doctor. You get a bit of that - a very epic bit! - but then it becomes much quieter. It's really about the Doctor and Clara, it's a meditation on their friendship. Likewise, the Hybrid is built up as a big thing but then becomes entangled with this more character-driven arc. Together, they are the Hybrid - they're the story. And I love that. As the prophecy said, to (roughly quote) - the Hybrid will conquer Gallifrey and stand in its ruins, unravelling the Web of Time, breaking a billion billion hearts to heal its own. Well, the Doctor conquers Gallifrey and risks all of time and space to save Clara - and stands in the ruins of Gallifrey (with Me) at the end of time. So, in an interesting way, I think the idea of Moffat desiring the grand and the significant is kind of refuted by this episode - it becomes about two friends, not an epic, cosmic struggle. It's ultimately just a meditation on Clara and the Doctor's relationship more than anything else. A lot of people were upset about this not being such a grand, epic battle (b/c a lot of people disliked Clara - an absurd proposition in my view!) and I was a bit disappointed at first when I watched it air back in 2015. But it's grown on me to become one of my fave finales. I get why people have problems with Clara (though the hate some people evinced at the time was just OTT) but personally I love her character and her relationship with the Doctor. It's very different, and also very human still. Anyway, I think you'll love the companion in the next season (as do I and, I think, pretty much everyone). As for the reason he leaves Gallifrey - there's Me's theory, and it's left ambiguous, up to the viewer. It could be fear of the Hybrid/himself, or it could just be that he was actually bored and ran away (after all, Clara says pretty much exactly that as they're leaving lol). The little hint about the Doctor being part human is a reference to McGann and the TV Movie when that's mentioned (and was promptly - and rightly - forgotten). Here it's just a little in joke, not to be taken too seriously. Other parts of the lore and this episode itself handily refute it, so we know it's just a joke, don't worry ;) Without spoilers I will say that the next season will fulfill your dreams :) And the upcoming Xmas special is a thing of beauty, too. (Oh, and yeah, that whistly-Gallifrey-theme variant is so good. And the Doctor playing Clara's theme on the guitar!) Peter Capaldi as Twelve is a very, very, very sexy man.

Kunzite Blossom

Episode 11 is heartbreaking as it goes on to see how long the Doctor went through this never really even knowing its just a cycle till the very end of each cycle. But the knowledge doesn't carry over cause its starting over. Episode 12....I was so happy to see Clara again! Her being on Gallifrey was amazing, she knew something was wrong with The Doctor and she went off on the other person calling them monsters. I don't blame her. 4.5 billion years stuck....it's heartbreaking. I am happy knowing while she is gone, she's still out there adventuring! Ashildr/Me finally gets her wish to travel in the tardis! I do really wonder what those two got up to and how long before Clara finally went back to Gallifrey to face her fate. I do also agree there will be no other like Clara, aside from the hate she did get, I loved her. She's the reason I even started to watch this show. She will be my #1 companion ever. Though I am excited for you to meet the next companion, curious on what you will think.

Kunzite Blossom

I agree the Clara hate never made sense to me. People said with 12 she becomes too much of a bossy control freak. Which I can see but that personality worked so well with 12 (I mean The Doctor is kind of the same but Clara gets faulted for it). With 11 she was more of a mystery to him that he needed to figure out, which is why I loved seeing her become a real fleshed out character with 12. I guess so many other companions don't play as large of a role, Clara takes on "being the doctor" a few times which maybe people wanted more of just the Doctor. There is also the fact after Danny dies she really does become a lot more reckless like the Doctor. Again, thats just how they work well. I think people just see the negatives and don't see how they actually work within the story and just want to complain.

JayPerView

Next 2 will be up this weekend 😄

Heather

have to acknowledge that Moffat quote; for all the entirely one-sided beef I have with the man, there are some episodes that really remind you of the creative genius he undeniably is, and Heaven Sent is at the very top of that list

Alix

this is my favorite season finale in all of doctor who tbh. I really view face the raven/heaven sent/hell bent as a trilogy, but the thing that REALLY gets me is how much of a culmination of clara's arc and her relationship with doctor (particularly the twelfth doctor) it is. it continues the themes of really being able to see each other ("you look at me and you can't see me. just see me." to "when do I not see you?" to "I'd know you anywhere" to the doctor now looking right at clara and not being able to recognize or remember her) and clara's arc of becoming more and more like the doctor in both good and bad ways. there's also lots of subtle easter eggs, like the song that's playing on the jukebox at the beginning of hell bent being the same cover of "don't stop me now" that was being sung in mummy on the orient express, or the song the doctor plays and names "clara" being clara's theme song from the very beginning back in season 7, or the way that the doctor's advice of "never be cruel, never be cowardly" echoes what clara told him in the episode listen: "if you're very wise, and very strong, fear doesn't have to make you cruel or cowardly. it can make you kind." there are so many other parallels and references and really good thematic closures to this finale, I could talk about it all day, but I don't wanna write an essay here lol. (especially because I am once again late to the party.) but yeah I love this episode, I love this trilogy of episodes, and series 8+9 are my favorites in the entire show, full stop. twelve is my favorite doctor and his relationship with clara is my favorite doctor/companion relationship in the show (though I do also very much adore twelve and bill's dynamic, and plenty of other doctor+companion dynamics.) I'm so glad you also loved clara and her dynamic with the doctor!! sometimes people love heaven sent but then dislike hell bent, and that always throws me off (though it's usually because those people don't like clara, which is such a strange concept to me)