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Star Trek TNG 2x02 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-03-16 17:00:08
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Star Trek TNG 2x02 Full Reaction - Sesskasays

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Ryan

I've always been deeply torn on this episode. On the one hand, it's an extremely cliched Trek plot (I really have to call bullshit on Data's claim that there isn't a single other incident like this on record) without a single thing in the writing to make it stand out, with the result that when you've seen as much Trek as I have, it's very hard to remember this one even exists. Plus, it's pretty clear that the writer (whose only Trek credit besides this is Wrath of Khan, for your daily dose of random) didn't understand Worf at all and thinks he's what I've seen one review describe as "an easily confused baboon." I'm pretty sure the opening training scene was thrown in as a desperate attempt to explain why he's suddenly acting this way. But then on the other hand, besides the stuff with Worf, the episode does about as great a job with its chosen story as it's possible to do. Negilum's face is perfect Uncanny Valley, fully believable as an incomprehensible alien's attempt to imitate the look of the people he's talking to without any idea of what anything is for. Loved your reaction there, and I'm going to be quoting "I don't know about 'just like'" for a while. And the guy playing the Red Shirt of the week does an amazing job of portraying someone in unimaginable pain with no source; he was clearly thinking "I only have a few minutes of screen time but I'm going to make them count." And Negilum's final ploy has a great balance to the writing, matching the characters enough that Picard doesn't seem like an idiot for being momentarily fooled, but also off enough that it's gratifying to find out they're not real. I look forward to plenty more of your refusal to care about Pulaski and just wanting Beverly back, which I don't see ending any time soon.

Geordie Joe

Nagilum reminds me of Q. Wanting to learn more about humans while also seemly getting some perverse enjoyment from their experiments. and then they have the cheek to call humans the savage ones afterwards.

Thomas Corp

Concur, plenty of weird fuckery and silliness in this episode. I agree with quite enjoying it, stressful though it was. It is something of a tried-and-true concept for Star Trek, presented in a sort of horror-esque Doctor Who episode style. I lived for you reading the crew to filth for their inquisitive and curious natures. Never mind that it is their mission and job to be so, I love how you called them out so much, especially when you wholeheartedly sided with Worf. Which first, my initial thoughts upon hearing Worf describe the old Klingon legends were, “Wait, you mean Darth Nihilus is part of Klingon legend? Shit, that’s impressive.” Then when you said, “No, we, we take what Worf says, and then we take the ship, and then we go boop-boop-boop-boop-boop, until we turn around and we go the other way.” I heard you say that, laughed, and I chimed in with, “Oh, you’ll be saying that, or things of that nature plenty of time s before this show is over!” Speaking of Worf, I too appreciated the training he and Riker took part in complete with the spiky glove as you described it. I like to think he used to train like that alongside Tasha. The overall threat of the “Space hole being” to use the technical term, was well done, aided by excellent voice work by Earl Boen. I share Ryan’s thoughts on it looks unnatural enough that it works beautifully, and I liked your reaction to seeing it. The big highlight of the last third of the episode is the superb look into when Picard only has bad choices in front of him, and what would he choose, and how difficult said choices would be. Certainly, I found it to be a rather poignant moment where we see Picard resigned to his fate, choosing to spend his final moments staring for twenty minutes as you described, listening to Erik Satie’s Gymnopédie No. 1. A beautiful piece to listen to at the end. Me, for my final moments in such a situation, I suppose I’d indulge in Mozart’s Requiem. Alternatively, I suppose I would listen to the climactic duet from the final act of Giordano’s Andrea Chénier. A selection that I would imagine Picard would have chosen himself, were it not for the fact that alas, Beverly is far away at Starfleet Medical, thus he cannot share the moment with her. Such is life. And I do so adore, Jess, your own comments of being chagrined that Picard could not have whatever kind of moment with Beverly in the face of impending doom. Seriously, that got me right in the heart. Likewise, I loved your singular focus of concern for Geordi. Love how Picard sees through the trick when Deanna and Data refer to him by his first name. Which ties into what you said of not finding them to be out-of-character. I somewhat agree, in that what tips it off is less because of Deanna using Picard’s first name as the situation being what it was, I could write it off as that. Data calling Picard by his first name, on the other hand, THAT sets off an alarm bell. When Picard and the crew are described as they are by Space hole being, I’d have quipped, “...If I just got told off, I think I missed it.” The writing with Dr. Pulaski and the intent with her interactions with Data continue to be most irksome, though I do love how Picard has the officer and a gentleman’s way of saying “Reconsider that opinion, Doctor.” Speaking of Dr. Pulaski, I had a similar reaction as you did to Dr. Pulaski saying she picked the wrong time to join the ship. How you kind of went, “Well...” I dryly noted, “No comment.” I will say when the Space hole being messed with her some, Dr. Pulaski was quite calm about it, and indeed the whole episode was quite calm, leading me to note, “I like that. Cool under fire.” A lovely and fantastic reaction, Jess, which I enjoyed so much, thank you.

Josef Schiltz

Were we able to migrate an alien species from Babylon 5 into the Trek universe, Dr Pulaski might muse that "Once you've dealt with a Pak'ma'ra with food poisoning, you can deal with anything. Being stressed out as a lab rat is nothing!" The absence of Ensign Crusher was noticeable during the second half of this episode and the insertion of a previously unknown crewman for the confrontation with the Nagilum entity was portentous in the least! Red alert! No Guinan this episode! Interesting that Riker gets to expound upon ancient Earth mythology and yet poor old Worf gets shut down when he mentions a Klingon tale of an invisible space creature that swallows spaceships. Double standards alert! Should've listened to the Klingon! Well, this episode sort of holds together. However, the seemingly infinite mutability of Star Trek time is deployed yet again! Twenty minutes? Did Picard use site-to-site transport to get to his quarters, sit back in his comfy chair, relax, compose himself upon mortality and get to that point in Erik Satie's Gymnopédie No. 1, have that conversation with the false Deanna and Data, and still have that scene on the Bridge within twenty minutes?? That's practically an hour or more! As Picard himself much, much later remarks, "I'm, er, erm, eh heh! . . . I'm a role model!" Yes, I'm sure you are. 🕵️ To be honest, I had forgotten about it completely and since I have no playable copy, as my DVD collection has no accompanying player, I had to go back in time and double-check Gallifrey Gals reaction first, so I got to see two reactions back-to-back with this episode. It is many year since I've seen this and the time hasn't really changed my view of it. Moving on. 👉