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The Bad Batch 1x05-1x06 Full Reaction - EA - Sesskasays

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Ryan

I only had time to watch one this morning, so my response to 6 will be coming in a few hours. For now, it’s quite a relief that you’re into this setup with Cid, as a lot of fans didn’t care for her and how she keeps the show away from the inner workings of the Empire at its birth like they were hoping for. I always really liked her, and said at the time that I never realized how much I needed Rhea Perlman playing a sleazy crime boss. I do wish she had a better introduction, since I’d like to think we’ve reached a point where stories can stop doing “This tough and/or smart person everyone’s been talking about is actually a WOMAN! What a shocking, unpredictable twist!” Though I guess we can count our blessings that no one in the Batch does the kind of overblown “But you’re a girl!” reaction that this kind of thing used to always lead to. Loved your response to Muchi and Bib, though this also led to one of those times where different crew members have a fundamental disagreement over what happens in a story so there’s no “official” version, and we can add “Is Muchi the same Rancor from Return of the Jedi?” to “Did Cap and Peggy create a new timeline or not?” and “What exactly is Captain Lethbridge-Stewart’s relation to the Brig?” I also have to point out that the guy we see here fighting a Rancor to a draw with his bare hands was taken out by Fennec in five seconds, so on the off chance anyone’s been watching this show without seeing Mandalorian and Boba Fett, that should get across what a big deal she is.

Thomas Corp

So, as you discovered, we have now settled into the primary foundation of the show for the Bad Batch. With food and supplies no longer being consistently provided, they need to find work to provide the bread. I am quite pleased to see you have a positive reaction to Cid. You may or may not get some pushback for that on youtube. My opinion on the character fluctuates some, but I live for Rhea Perlman as the voice. She does provide some humorous nicknames for the batch, such as calling Billy, er, sorry, Hunter “Broody”. She also certainly shows a questionable trustworthiness via the rancor mission. I mean she didn’t lie. She said they were supposed to rescue a kid. Would have been nice if she mentioned exactly what kind of kid it was. A treat to see the batch work together with their strengths, and to see Omega continue to grow, complete with a badass crossbow. Most amusing both Wrecker’s rancor wrangling, and your reaction to said rancor wrangling. I loved your reaction to Bib Fortuna popping up. I loved you recognized him. Of course, he was in some grand C-3PO scenes which would explain how you knew him. And he collects the rancor to Jabba’s palace, where the rancor should form a beautiful friendship with a lovely man by the name of Malakili. It is great how you realize that the last episode never said Fennec’s name, love you being her hypewoman by the way. The second episode opens with the sweet moment of teaching Omega how to shoot. I’d offer her the advice of “Aim small, miss small” myself. Yes, we have the return of the Martez sisters. No worries on not instantly recognizing them, because it has been over a year since you saw that arc of Clone Wars. It took me a minute myself, and the distance of time from when you saw the arc to this one, is roughly consistent with my own experience. Their distinctive hairstyles being under wraps as it were not helping much, I concur. It’s appropriate that they appear as Filoni had it between them and the batch as the leads for the post-Clone Wars spin-off, thus it’s nice they get a story together. We’ve been getting the hints through the headaches, but this episode starts directly confirming that the chip in Wrecker’s head is ticking away. It got me, Jess, seeing the instant fear in your eyes, hearing him say, “Good soldiers...” As I said on youtube, I was filled with dread, whilst pointing to the screen, saying, “Don’t say it!!” I like how Hunter gives the Martez sisters what they were after, and a most intriguing scene where they contact... someone... who caught your interest. Other highlights: The battle droids doth continuously provide a sight for sore eyes as you described, yes, loved your comments about that. I LIVED for your reaction to the Who’s On First bit that was had. It’s also at this episode that Kevin Kiner shifts a bit more toward electronic style/synthesizer music. Much more experimental for Star Wars, yet it doesn’t feel out of place, which is always the concern with new Star Wars music not composed by John Williams. John himself even notes it’s a question he deals with, and he commented on that in the behind-the-scenes of The Rise of Skywalker by saying, “One of the challenges has been: Should it be so new that it doesn’t fit the body? Can you play Rey’s Theme alongside of Leia’s Theme and have them be same part of the family even though I’m forty years older? So far, they all seem to want to live together.” And indeed, all of Kevin’s Star Wars music seems to want to harmoniously live together with John’s legendary music. Just as this show lives together with all the great Star Wars stories, and it warms my heart, Jess, to see how you are loving it so much, so soon. And again, it leads to a delightful reaction, thank you so much.

Thomas Corp

I’m not unsympathetic to fans that don’t like Cid. She does incite a bit of anger in me at times. I’ll get to that when we come to when it happens. In any event, I just live for Rhea being part of Star Wars. I recognized her voice, saying, “Wait Rhea Perlman is in Star Wars? Fuck yeah, all right.” Though my brother hasn’t seen this, I expect he’d kind of like Cid too. It helps that he and I tend to gravitate towards piece of shit/unsavory characters who are self-aware and/or fairly upfront about it. Kind of like how Jess said she really likes Bronn on Game of Thrones in that yeah, he is a piece of shit asshole, but he never puts forth any pretension that he’s otherwise. It would be nice if we were past the, as you described, “This tough and/or smart person everyone’s been talking about is actually a WOMAN! What a shocking, unpredictable twist!” type deal, though it is over fairly quickly, and to your point, none of he batch bats an eyelash at it. I have no problem with either opinion on the rancor. Concerning Fennec, there is also Ming-Na’s being well known as Mulan, Chun-Li, not to mention Melinda “The Cavalry” May, Jess’s favorite on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D, thus she brings the reputation of playing supremely badass characters. But yes, for those who did not know Fennec, seeing Wrecker be able to fight an adolescent rancor barehanded, gives plenty of weight to how badass Fennec is if she laid him out with one hit.

Ryan

Jess said in a recent podcast appearance that she’d been warned about how easily the Star Wars fans would turn on her but it hasn’t happened yet, and it would be a shame if this was what finally did it when she’s so close to being totally caught up. Cid not telling them about the rancor did get me a bit worked up since that knowledge would have been very useful to their prep work. I’m reminded of the scene from Ronin where the team says fine, you don’t want to tell us exactly what’s in the briefcase, but it would be nice if we knew how heavy it is and how careful we need to be with it.

Saltire le Hutt

I do like Cid even though she is a surly old bag! She's a fun and dodgy character, like many of the best are! She'll help our squad out just now, but they should keep an eye out for her thats for sure! One rather horrible thing though is she is a Trandoshan, who as we've seen, have a thing for hunting Wookies. And she has a wookie pelt on the back of her office chair!! It is rather horrible seeing Omega find out about slavery, as she is such a pure spirit and is like when children begin to see that the world isn't as wondrous as they thought when they were young. Its like a little loss of innocence in a way, and you just want to protect them as long as you can. They have to grow up sometime though... You may remember the Zygerrians from the slave arc in Clone Wars. I detest them, but thats what the creators wanted from them, they are evil and ruthless in their bid to rebuild their slave Empire which the Jedi dismantled. Here now though, the Empire is more than happy for them to 'ply their trade'. One of the hypocrisies of Anakin; he was so willing to take them out there and abolish slavery across the galaxy, but now he is a Sith, he is fine with having millions enslaved. We see that in Andor too with the prison arc, where the prisoners are effectively slave labour for the Empire in helping build the Death Star. In lore Rancors are supposed to be intelligent and sensitive animals, but too often are thrown into gladiatorial pits to battle for the entertainment of others. The rancor in Return Of The Jedi had another name was called Patissa and I think was a male, so perhaps Moochi wasn't the one killed by Luke; but maybe Moochi bred with the male instead and is fine. I don't think its the rancor either in Book Of Boba Fett, though it could be. Omega's bow is pretty fantastic! And we see her beginning to learn to use it in the next episode. She's going to need to defend herself, and that thing is bloody lethal, no stun shots with that! The mission for the second ep is on Corellia, Han Solo's home planet, and we saw a similar place in Ahsoka where they were building the giant hyperdrives to bring Thrawn back. Good to see the Martez sisters back and doing their own thing. Another link to their arc btw is the two barfly's at the start in Cid's, were the two fella's rescued from the cells in the Martez arc by Trace. They went to Ord Mantel and are now propping up Cid's bar, much to her annoyance! :D Poor Wrecker, he does hate heights! And getting banged on his head again, thats not good at all considering whats in there! That Echo joke is absolutely horrendous, and I love it! :D There is a hint as to who the contact is if you know where to look. Say no more and we'll find out soon enough!

Thomas Corp

As what seems to be the consensus view expressed here on patreon, Cid is quite unsavory, but she’s got her moments. I like the fact that Jess likes her, for now. I look forward to how that opinion evolves. As someone who has no kids, it is that thing of you want to shield kids from uglier sides of life, but we all have to grow up sometime. The Zygerrians are quite detestable, and deliberately so. After all, in that arc, Count Dooku seemed more likeable than them. Mind you, my love of Count Dooku is strong, so there is bias speaking. I would think that the rancor is definitely not the same one in Book of Boba Fett, too old. Plus, I think that one was male too. Omega’s bow is nice. The Martez sisters popping up is when I caught wind of certain fans hating them, because after the episode aired, I heard all the bile spewed at them, and I was befuddled, saying, “Wait, what’s so awful about them?” It’s like Rose all over again where I don’t understand the hate. Or the Third Sister, where, there I didn’t entirely disagree initially as I had some in story problems, though those problems were called out on in the show itself which smoothed things over some. And I had a better time with her in the rewatch with Jess. Seeing the Martez sisters again, they’re fun. Wrecker needs his head looked at fast. As you say, the contact at the end... All in due time.