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The Bad Batch 1x15/1x16 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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Saltire le Hutt

Wrong link for downloading these episodes.

Tick Macphee
>>137964060

I was about to sync up only to realize lol, I’m sure it’ll get fixed as soon as they can :)

Ryan

I would love to have been a fly on the wall when the writers were brainstorming a suitably big ending for the season, and someone realized the cloning facility had never once been seen in any post-prequel material, which meant they could blow it up. And it’s not just for the sheer spectacle’s sake, but used to give a very thematically meaningful set of scenes where the entire Batch gets to work together again in their old training grounds, before they’re inevitably torn apart again along with their home. A lot of fans had been grumbling about Crosshair seemingly only being a slave to his chip rather than finally dealing with a clone who genuinely does support the Empire, so this reveal was very welcome and had a lot of us looking forward to what more could be done with it. Of course, the big issue with this kind of story is you inevitably reach a point where the character has to either turn against the Empire or become irredeemable and not worth following anymore (there’s a novel with this setup that falls apart once the Empire protagonist responds to the destruction of Alderaan with “Eh, who cares? They were probably all jerks”), so I’ll leave you to discover how the show handles that. Most of this ending is kept from being too heavy by the presence of AZ, and I live for your adoration of every single word he says. And it’s a bit of a miracle that both him and Omega being saved doesn’t feel at all like a cheat, thanks to being wrapped into Crosshair’s character arc. By this ending a ton of fans were super onboard after a bit of a rocky start, and watching it back knowing exactly where everything is going, it holds up even better.

Saltire le Hutt

Nice touch showing that Hunter's armour is covered in dirt and dust from his fall in the previous episode. Crosshair knows that the rest of the squad will come for Hunter no matter what, he knows them too well. As they land on Kamino the music is straight out of Attack Of The Clones, the first time we saw Kamino; this is going to foreshadow what we see later. Penny for Omega's thoughts as they travel on the tube back to Nala Se's private lab. I don't think growing up there brought many happy thoughts for her. Crosshair feeling abandoned by the others was something I never thought of when watching this the first time, and boy that line about him not having a choice, really stings. He was always the most distant of the crew, but he was still one of them. So they find the private lab was where they were all created, and that Omega remembers seeing the rest of the Bad Batchers in there before they got sent off to be trained. Its such a weird thing to think about. She is a child, but is older than the rest of them (perhaps Echo aside as he was a first generation clone himself), and hence their big sister; which is why she wanted to go with them specifically in the first place as they were the nearest thing to family for her. Then when they left to go on their missions, she'd be back in that lab, alone, with perhaps just AZ for company. And then when you think about what her purpose is to the Kaminoans, to be just as close a copy to Jango Fett's DNA and then to be discarded after having that genome extracted, is horrifying to think about. She at least now has the chance to live a life like everyone else, but that would be a difficult thing for her to deal with, to understand her place in all this, big issues for an approximately 12 year old kid. I like how Tech tries to outthink Crosshair, but the latter knows him too well, and they walk right into his trap. Tech is very smart, but he isn't infallible. Crosshair wanting to send Omega away shows he still has some semblence of empathy there, as he feels - and he isn't totally wrong - that Omega should be given the chance to live a life outside of being a soldier; the rest of them weren't given that chance, but she has the chance to be able to do whatever she wants to. Also from his point of view, he sees this new order as a way for him and his brothers, to be who they were always supposed to be, soldiers making a difference again; that the Empire can give him and the others the sense of value and worth he feels they need, instead of a nomadic hand-to-mouth existence that they are having to endure now. Obviously his feelings about the Bad Batch being 'superior' and a weapon the Empire can use to bring order to the galaxy, are wrong, but if you go back to the Clone Wars introductions with them, he had that kind of attitude back then. The chip activating and being intensified strengthened these beliefs, and Hunter thinks its this thats causing him to act this way, but we shockingly hear that his chip has been removed. Has the chip just opened his eyes to what he thinks their destiny is? I'm not defending him (though Crosshair is my favourite of the Bad Batch), but this is realistic and shows his character has layers to him, instead of just being the bad guy now. Ah man, that bit when the Bad Batch theme comes back - that we haven't heard since the first episode - as Crosshair helps fend off the droids, is so emotional. It shows they were all meant to be together, that they are brothers, and its just sad that they look at things from the opposing sides. Next we see Tarkin giving his famous line here to Rampart : "you may fire when ready" which he says as they blow up Alderaan in A New Hope and I believe Rogue One too. Seeing the once Jedi cruisers that represented the Republic, move in to destroy Kamino and clones go through with destroying the place, is just devastating. 99 would be turning in his grave when he and others fought so much to protect it. That moment before the guns open fire, where we see the empty rooms of such a familiar place now, is sobering. Whilst for me Attack Of The Clones is the worst film in the franchise, Kamino itself has become such an iconic Star Wars location for over 20 years now, that we kept coming back to in Clone Wars; and to see this is what inevitably becomes of the place, is just haunting. Going back to the Rookies episode in Clone Wars (the second episode which featured Echo, Fives etc), those cruisers come in to save the day for Kamino from Grievous. And now its come to this.

Saltire le Hutt

1x16 : That clone's voice as he tells Rampart that Kamino is destroyed, is telling. They obeyed his orders, and destroyed all the cities, but this was their home... That is one strong vibroblade Wrecker has, to be able to pry open a blastdoor, whats it made from, beskar? :D As you note Jess, the animation is phenomenal here. Rebels is my favourite aesthetic of the Star Wars animations, but you can see every dollar they have put into the Clone Wars engine now. Season 3 and Tales Of The Empire are even a step up on this! Two bits stand out for me; when the crew leave the Marauder in the rain, and as the facility comes to rest and the squad is hanging on for dear life. Superb stuff. Also - as usual - Kevin Kiner killing it with the music at the hellfire and as the facility meets its final resting place on the ocean floor. We hear a last slow version of the clone theme. There will be no more clones. I like the idea that the medical capsules that incubated them when they were young, now help save them getting back to the surface. AZ isn't one of my favourite droids, but he is a little boss this episode, helping them escape and cutting through things to get access to other areas and switching on the power when they are attacked by the giant sea creature. Also later in the episode when they are riding the caspules to the surface and he escorts them up to the surface. He's the MVP here. At the end when they stand on the platform to look back at the devastation, check Echo out, he looks to be hurting especially along with Omega. He, Fives, Rex and 99 defended Kamino multiple times from the Separatists, and now "its all gone". Crosshair is adament in his decision and rejects the chance to come back. He needs to go on his path and see what being an Imperial is. The rest are on a different one. While he puts on a facade and butts heads with Hunter, he still does care about the crew judging by his actions in the training room and saving Omega. He thinks what he is doing is following the true path for what he and the clones were made for and thinks its a waste his brothers are running around the galaxy "scavenging". This is his choice. Kamino is the first of the worlds decimated by the Empire, it won't be the last. At the start of the first episode we saw the Clone Wars logo appear then burn out to reveal the Bad Batch logo. Seeing Tipoca City fall like this, the clones now scattering and being replaced, and the Bad Batch splitting up; this episode shows to us, that the Clone Wars and the republic has very much ended, and that this is now the new order. To signify this, we see Nala Se fly in to an imperial facility where she'll be a prisoner in all but name, working on whatever nefarious project the Empire is up to...

Saltire le Hutt
>>137967862

Yes when I watched this originally, I wanted something else to happen which I won't mention, but what they end up doing with the whole story makes these episodes even better.

Ryan
>>137970327

Wet hair is notoriously hard to do in CGI, and here they seem to go out of their way to show it with Omega multiple times, with how proud they were of how it came out. Though if you really want to see the best looking version of this ever, check out Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, because holy shit.

Thomas Corp

“My heart cannot take this episode.” is a fair description for the season one finale of The Bad Batch. Dreadfully stress-inducing to return to Kamino to save Hunter, complete with a return of the musical themes John Williams composed when Kamino first debuted. I like how you knew that the batch knew that of course it’s a trap. Next move, spring the trap. Emotional as all hell seeing Crosshair and the rest of the batch have their big scene which culminated in his big trick shot, love Tech clocking the reflector discs. Beyond fantastic to see the whole batch fight together again against the droids. As you say, it’s such a wonderful whirlwind of emotions how you see the batcher brothers and sister/quasi-daughter all still love each other despite the opposing viewpoints. To the matter of Crosshair’s being sans chip, I loved your shock at that. Me, I surmised the likelihood of that past a certain point. He was showing a little too much autonomy for the chip to still be drilling words into his noggin; he was seeming less and less Manchurian Candidate and/or Winter Soldier, depending on your preference of reference. As you can imagine with this fandom, there were divided opinions. In my case, I loved the reveal as it is the way more fascinating route to take, and I loved all your excellent thoughts on it. As to Omega’s age, that one was a bit obvious as she and Boba are essentially Irish twins as I believe the expression goes. You simply didn’t sit down and think about that too much, hence how you didn’t put that one together. And now, we come to the emotional devastation of Kamino’s orbital bombardment, courtesy of Rampart. I think the only thing that’s objectively wonderful is Tarkin saying his trademark “You may fire when ready.” for old time’s sake. Your reaction was striking as I knew it would be, Jess. And you handled it better than I. When I finally saw these episodes, I was taken back to over twenty years ago, when my dad took my brother and I to see Attack of the Clones for the first time. Mom being out of town that weekend on work/science business. And it recalled how we were all blown away by the creativity of the creativity of the new worlds like Kamino, Geonosis, expansion of Coruscant. And it’s always been one of my thoughts of the Prequel Trilogy over the last twenty-five years now, which is say what you will about the films themselves, the ambition of the world building was fantastic. To then see Kamino fall as it did, I felt something in my heart just die, and the tears were obscenely relentless. I double-checked when the episodes first aired, and I see that the broadcast dates coincided with around one month after Dad died, so it ends up being good that I fell behind, as it hurt like a motherfucker seeing Kamino’s fate about a year and a half after its airing, I don’t want to think about how bad it would have been seeing it as it aired live. Omega shows her heart of gold helping Crosshair, and I loved your reactions to that. Love your love for AZI, and no apologies about the laughter. My response was, “Sassy droids have always been a strong inciter of laughter from you, Jess.” I love your encouragement of Crosshair about to be endeared. We also have one of my favorite Tech moments of the season. When he tells Wrecker to lay off Crosshair, and clarifies about defending Crosshair, “I am NOT. Understanding you does NOT mean I agree with you.” Dee sold that line as he did all the lines, as did Michelle, and I so adored your reaction to that moment. Just as I so adored your reaction to Crosshair saving Omega and AZI. Alas, our family is still not back together. But a hell of an ending. Well, not the actual ending, as we end on the scene with Nala Se. Your reaction was understandably MUCH more subdued compared to mine. The ending scene I let out a dramatic gasp or two. Pieces fell into place as I found myself wickedly, deviously, and gleefully saying aloud, “They brought Nala Se to... The Imperial scientist is wearing the same uniform as... Which means that the Empire is going to have Nala Se doing work related to dark science, cloning, secrets only... Oh, yeah. It’s all coming together.” Now we have concluded season one. I think you may well have had the best time of anyone watching this first season of Bad Batch. No, seriously, I’m not kidding, the time you’ve had with this, your love and investment in the show, warms my heart beyond belief. Though overall well received, the season’s quality was somewhat contested, though I’ve said, and I see some of the other fellas have expressed similar thoughts, that we loved it as well. Thus, it’s so wonderful to share the love you’ve shown to this show. I greatly appreciate it, and I look forward to what’s to come with your reactions. Thank you for the beautiful reactions to season one of The Bad Batch, Jess.

Thomas Corp
>>137970284

John’s Kamino themes were a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. Michelle does wonderful showing she is mentally going through some mild hell being back in those labs. But Hunter’s life is on the line, so she’s going to plough through. Sometimes the most distant like Crosshair take it the hardest with perceived abandonment. He’s already kind of a lone-wolf, and he has a group/family that just leaves him behind, as he sees it, that’s going to stick with you. Confirming Omega’s age does give greater weight to her bond with the boys. Crosshair does force an impasse with Tech quite a bit. It makes sense as though perhaps not at Tech’s level, Crosshair’s skill set does lend itself well to tactics and strategy. His knowing Tech as well as he does also give him an edge. Well said on Crosshair’s feelings on Omega, and just his character in general. Similar feelings about not strictly speaking defending Crosshair despite my favoritism. You assess his character, how realistic his choices are, and it makes for a fascinating character. It’s also kind of like when I talk about Anakin, most of the Targaryen characters, or Walter White, you study and analyze, you can fully understand where they’re coming from, yet defending them is a separate matter. Like Tech said, “Understanding you does NOT mean I agree with you.” Tarkin and his famous line is indeed a nice touch, despite the circumstances. I know your feelings on Attack of the Clones, yet like you said, given how iconic a location Kamino became, seeing its fall just guts you.

Saltire le Hutt
>>137975701

From the off, have a like Thomas for quoting Obi-Wan! ;) Yeah when we first saw the scarring on Crosshair's head, some surmised that the chip either had to have been removed, or it was fused in and couldn't then be removed. He does look very conflicted at the end of the Hera episodes though when he asks to hunt down his old crew; and perhaps he's coming up with this plan here, not to kill them, but to try and bring them back with him as imperials. And I agree, this is a better use of his story than him coming back here to the squad. I love the bravery the developers had in going down this path for him, even when for a lot of fans of the show - myself included - he is their favourite of Clone Force 99. I admit too, seeing Kamino be destroyed, especially with the build up of showing the now deserted rooms, does still bring a tear or three, just because of the investment we have now had in the place over those 20 years. It had to come I suppose, since we never saw Kamino nor more clones later; but to just see the quick ramping up and destruction of it so nonchalantly by the Empire over these last three episodes, came as a shock to all. Yes I liked Jess's understanding of Crosshair here. None of us defend his choices he's made this season and now; but you can understand where he's coming from. He felt abandoned by his brothers, and saw how quickly they came in for Hunter, not him, so there is a touch of resentment there from him. Of course with the chip active he did try to kill them a few times, but now that its out, all he wanted was them back with him; but cannot see they will never join the Empire after all thats now happened. Its kind of heartbreaking that they all want to be together, yet want different things, so have to be apart. This first season is perhaps the best of the Star Wars animations so far. While Clone Wars was a bit up and down, and Rebels was laying a lot of the groundwork in season 1 for the following seasons to fly; Bad Batch has been gripping from the off and turned these stereotypical characters into something more layered; especially with the great decisions of bringing Omega into the story, and having Crosshair be on the other side. Yep, its a great season to what has become a beloved Star Wars show for most.