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Star Trek: TNG 2x09 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-05-18 17:00:06
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Star Trek TNG 2x09 Full Reaction - Sesskasays

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Tsuliwaensis

what a good time, love the passion! 😊

Thomas Corp

Like you said, “Back-to-back character focused episodes!” and we love. Now we come to what is regarded as the first classic episode of Next Gen. Whilst I don’t entirely agree that it is the first classic episode of Next Gen, I concur with the consensus view that this episode is a thoroughly outstanding one. Most of the cast and crew list it as one of their favorite episodes, if not their favorite. I knew revisiting it, Jess, that you’d love it a lot. Particularly when considering your historic love for droids such as our dear C-3PO. The shared thought is that it is amazing to dive into the idea that Data is a sentient being and not just some bucket of bolts and the subsequent fight for him to retain his right to make his own decisions. I had greatly anticipated, Jess, the exceptionally beautiful and righteous fury that Maddox would incite in you throughout the episode. No apologies are necessary about that by the way. The speed with which you became so plucked vis-à-vis Maddox, to the point you wished him to fuck the fuck off forthwith, made me deadpan, “That was quick. No surprise there.” Credit must be given to Brian Brophy for playing him so well, loathsome character. Throughout the reaction, it warmed the heart to hear your assertions that Data is an officer and a gentleman, it was lovely. It was also amusing your thought of smuggling Data off the ship; Geordi would be the top man for the job of concealing Data within the walls of the Enterprise and then making off with him like a thief in the night to safety, yes. It was without a doubt that Geordi and Data’s one scene would get you right in the heart, especially with LeVar and Brent killing it. I started crying from seeing how that scene got you. It was indeed fantastic to see Picard get to it, fighting for Data. When he started, I went, “It’s that damn Jean-Luc Picard, he’s SO HOT RIGHT NOW.” With that, there’s the great dynamic between him and Captain Louvois superbly played by Amanda McBroom, loved that you quite liked their dynamic, and I got a kick out of your comment on the swoony music, which it has been quite a spell since last we heard it. Jonathan well sold Riker’s pouring all his self-loathing at having to prosecute Data, and your reactions to that were shared by me. Other shared reactions: You and me both on not needing in our lives during the hearing, the piece of shit in the corner with his looks as you so perfectly described. Especially when it came to said piece of shit’s stupid smile. In Picard’s place, after about the third or fourth time of Maddox sporting that insufferable smirk, I’d have yelled, “You smile that stupid smile one more fucking time, and I’m going fucking to take your leg off, and I’m going to... Fucking... ...The shin bone! I am going to take the shin bone. I am going to break it in two. And I’m going to fucking stab you to fucking death with it.” I must say that your thought of taking Data’s hand and smacking the fuck across the head with it, that would have been a most satisfactory course of action, I’d allow it. Likewise, the idea of taking something and sticking it right in his goddamn eyeball leading him to “turn off” has copiously agreeable merit. I adored your reaction to Guinan’s scene, God do I love Whoopi’s perfectly delivered line, “Oh, I think that’s a little harsh.” The love that is held for Patrick’s beyond superb performance of Picard’s impassioned defense is now matched by the love I had for your reaction to all of it. A mild shame, yes, that Geordi was not brought on the stand, if for no other reason than to satisfy your wish to hear Picard say “bestie”, an amusing thought, I agree. It also got me right in the heart when we see Data has the portrait of our dear Tasha, that induced a sob or two. It is a lovely moment when it is the ruling of the court that Data is declared sentient, and of course, you’re own ruling that Maddox is a dumb fuckface, loved that, Jess. And yes, Data, is nicer than either of us would have been; he is a pure soul. And you and I so loved Data holding no ill will toward Riker, and how he goes so far to point out that Riker helped save Data as a way to alleviate the guilt. God, is that moment great! A few other notes: I love the first appearance of the customary poker gatherings. I especially love the preference for five card stud. That moment when Data asked how Riker could tell that his bluff would yield fruit, I chimed in, “I recollect a young man putting the same question to Eddie the Dude. “Son,” Eddie told him, “all you paid was the looking price. Lessons are extra.” But not to worry, Data. You’ll get the hang of it yet.” Oh, this reaction was beautiful beyond belief, Jess, and it was so lovely to behold. Thank you so very much for this reaction.

Dave Hampton

I figured there was a chance this was one of the ones you had seen. I am glad it was not. I had a good idea how you would react to this episode (especially Commander Maddox). You did not disappoint. You disliked him even more than I thought you would which I love. What is crazy is that we are "close" to a time when this will be a reality. Considering we are only 35 (ish) years from when this aired and not 350 (ish) years which is when the show takes place it is crazy how much closer we are than when the episode aired. Put the new AI that I saw demonstrated a few days ago with some of the robotics now days and we are nowhere near Data, but closer than I bet the writers thought we would be today.

Ryan

This season resulted in the phrase "growing the beard" as the opposite of "jumping the shark," due to being viewed as a big step up from Season 1. A while later, with DVDs making it easier to go back and watch it again, that reputation shifted to the season not really being that much of an improvement overall, but this one episode being so great that it overtook all the rest in people's memories. It's been counted among the show's very best ever since it first aired, and you're even likely to find it in people's lists of the top ten episodes of the entire franchise. Stewart, Spiner, and Frakes are all at the top of their game, and Melinda Snodgrass' script gives them one amazing line after another to sink their teeth into. Plus, I love that within months of being brought on the show, Whoopi Goldberg got to have a scene like this playing directly into what first attracted her to the original series as a child (and at this same time she was also making the film The Long Walk Home about the Montgomery bus boycott, so it wasn't much of a stretch to give a speech like this, which is all the more powerful for just letting us see the obvious fact of a black actress delivering it without any dialogue drawing attention to that). I was anticipating this reaction in particular for months, and it fully lived up to that. After a season and a half of building our affection for Data, having his essential personhood so directly challenged brings out everyone's protectiveness, and Snodgrass puts so much thought into exactly what challenges and justifications there could be for it that it's incredibly rewarding to watch and rewatch. Of course, bringing up the memory of Tasha is what hits a lot of people the most, especially from this era where TV was taking its first baby steps into how much the audience could be trusted to have seen previous episodes. It's also very cool to see this kind of thoughtfulness from an era when most science fiction involving AI was in the vein of The Terminator, terrified that machines would just decide to wipe us all out once they got smart enough. My one complaint is that this story provided the perfect opportunity to put a final button on Pulaski's development to respecting Data as a person and it's just not addressed at all outside her gently guiding him through the poker game. In more recent years the episode has come to be seen as a fitting allegory for issues about abortion (the trial's purpose being repeatedly described as the "right to choose,") and trans identity (Maddox condescendingly calling Data "it" for most of the episode before he unconsciously uses "him" after the argument tying the issue to slavery). And for all that it's not very likely anyone intentionally put that meaning in there, I'm fully willing to go Death of the Author on this one, especially after the recent follow-up to this story in Star Trek: Picard that put a very moving final twist to where Maddox goes from here (I just wish they'd been able to get Brian Brophy back, since with someone else playing the role it just can't land as well as it could). Truly one of the all-time greats here, and I fully treasured seeing you discover it.

Josef Schiltz

Yes, I rather expected that Maddox and his ignorant arrogance would become the focus of Jess's ire! This is top tier Trek and what it's all about. It has also been included in lists of the best and most groundbreaking episodes of the whole series and a spec script by Melinda Snodgrass who holds a degree in history from the University of New Mexico, as well as a law degree from the University of New Mexico School of Law. In her spare time she also is an equestrian who competes in dressage.

Ziro the Hutt

Perhaps one of the best episodes of the show. Firstly though, why didn't Data call out Riker at the start? He had a full house which beats a potential flush and no straight flush was available for Riker. It doesn't matter, as it highlights how Data learns lessons from human interaction and formulates his own morality; which we see on full display this episode, in his curious, wonderful way. Taking emotion out of this episode, which is difficult, this is an interesting concept to explore when such a complex machine android such as Data is the centre of it. I disagree with Guinan to an extent that the inevitable outcome is a race of Data's in effectual slave labour on every ship and beyond though. If Starfleet abides by a code of conduct, then they could be granted ranking status without that much issue, as Data has by being the third in command of the fleet's flagship. However thats not to say its a slippery slope if they didn't get the judgement right and that slavery could arise from this. These philosophical ideas about self-awareness and whether Data has a soul, and if we all have them "I think, therefore I am.", "I know that I know nothing", etc; are fascinating to dwell on in this episode, and in life of course, and more learned fellows than myself have been thinking on this, and the purpose of life for millennia. The show does a good job here of exploring these topics, and about Data's own right to choose (which tbh is nonsense to begin with, since he was found by a Starfleet officer and it was his choice to eventually apply for Starfleet, hence he can never be property of that organisation, but thats used as a MacGuffin to get into the meat and bones of the topic of Data's individuality), and aside from one or two head-scratching moments in which Riker has to be the bad guy just to add tension; it works very well. The acting and emotion though is fantastic throughout. Spiner convinces wonderfully as portraying this android going through all these issues with his life at stake, with innocence and intelligence. Its a superb acting performance. And the rest of the cast match him, with Frakes going full on Saul Goodman at times, and then we can see the guilt of his actions displayed on his face and body language throughout. LeVar Burton isn't in this episode much, but he makes a memorable impression as he feels the injustice for his best friend and what Data means to the crew. And of course Patrick Stewart brings the gravitas, intellect, morality and oratory of Picard to the fore in defending Data and trying to make sense of these high-minded concepts. Also Maddox, whilst he isn't likeable, does make for a cracking villain here, as he makes all our blood boil! Oh and Picard and the judge, really need to get a room! Fantastic episode, and fabulous reaction Jess. Many thanks.

Ian Smith

Very little to add to everyone else's comments. One of my Top 5 TNG stories. Melinda Snodgrass, the writer (who,imo,should have written FAR more for TNG) was actually uncertain about submitting this script, but was persuaded to do so by her friend George R.R.Martin, who told her "why withhold a diamond?"

Anthony Goodwin

If you have the complete series on Blu-Ray, there's an HD extended version of "The Measure of a Man". You definitely need to check that out! 😃🖖