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Ryan

I'll just come out and say it: this is a really lame cliffhanger. The exact thing we were told would save them happened a few seconds later than we thought it would, how thrilling! It's especially weird since ending on the crate continuing to drop down the cliff would have worked just fine, with Tech's broken leg offsetting any dissatisfaction with them just happened to survive it. Luckily, the rest of this two-parter (released all at once for the season's premiere) easily makes up for that. What better way to throw viewers back into this story than the Batch fighting Giant Enemy Crabs, followed by the introduction of a new associate of Cid's in a way that just screams "I'll be important later," but she's so engaging right off the bat that you don't care how much you can see the gears turning. Just like Rhea Perlman, I'd never once considered the idea of Wanda Sykes in Star Wars, but as soon as I got it, I loved it. The plot here puts a final tragic twist on Dooku's fall seen in Tales of the Jedi, that for as much as he initially turned against the Jedi over their seeming apathy for the lower class being exploited, by the end he was doing that exact thing to his own people. The always dependable Hector Elizondo provides a marvelous voice for that side of the story, and I'd love to see this guy pop up in live action somehow. It could even be a perfect opportunity for the appearance of Jim Beaver in Star Wars that I keep irrationally hoping for. After seeming like just a pure action piece for most of its two parts, the final emotional beats with Omega land all the harder, and her being convinced to stop trying to get the Holy Grail...uh, the shiny stuff, and come to terms with her place in the family is all beautifully done. This is the kind of material that makes this show's existence fully worthwhile, and the crew all know it.

Thomas Corp

I love that you adored these first two episodes of season two. Alas, since I was behind on season one, I cannot tell you how wonderful it was to have this be the first thing to return to after a long wait. You got me emotional with your reaction to the wonderful opening scene. It makes the heart leap with joy seeing you encourage Omega being an impressive, beautiful soul. Good observations about the batch expressing differing viewpoints on how to proceed. As Cid notes, it’s only a matter of time before the Empire brings the cleansing fire to Ord Mantell, a point Tech notes is valid, you said the same. I KNEW that Echo being the steadfast soldier and wanting to not hide and instead fight the Empire would resonate so deeply with you. Likewise, I knew you’d gravitate toward Omega’s inherint kindness of wanting to help people. Our first scene with Phee, who made me go, “Wait a, Wanda Sykes is a character in Star Wars? ...Ok. Fine, willing to accept that.” Following the masterpiece of the Count Dooku arc on Tales of the Jedi, it filled my soul with delight to return to his homeworld, making me say, “Wait, MORE Count Dooku related material!? What have I done to deserve such generosity, Filoni?” Just how for all the divisiveness of the prequel era, Filoni is keeping Count Dooku’s legacy, and by extension, the legendary Sir Christopher Lee and his legacy alive. The money they were after was mighty overwhelming. When Omega asked how one man could have so much money, well, in addition to Dooku’s nefarious ways, the Hammer Horror royalties probably helped, to say nothing of his successful import of apples, provided the planet had successful harvests as a result of a good May Day celebration. I had a feeling you’d be proud of Wrecker doing things quietly for a hot second as you described, followed by him showing some surprising resourcefulness. I also could not resist when Hunter and Wrecker were storming the castle, I yelled, “Hide in the funhouse, boys, after all, it worked out well for Roger Moore. Did it not?” Then there is the esteemed Héctor Elizondo being so delightful as Romar Adell, being such a lovely gentleman helping the batch and winning your heart. Héctor once again, was wonderfully excellent in this. I continue to love your love for Tech’s bone-dry matter of fact manner. I related heavily to his leg being broken and he’s STILL getting up and out to fight. And indeed, Tech WORKED. I’m yelling, “Tech, you BEAUTY, you!” Watching it this time, I felt it even more as I had something earlier this month with my foot where I couldn’t put any weight on it. I don’t even know what fucking happened, yet I’m still trying to go to work and everything. Goddamned theatre mentallity. So, revisiting this episode, being reminded of Tech’s sheer and powerful true grit and determination, it was therapeutic. I do so appreciate your concern for Tech these episodes, and I appreciated and shared your appreciation of Romar coming in to help Tech. That man earns our respect and an honorary Bad Batch membership; I designate his codename as Mr. Grey. And as they depart, you say, “Godspeed, Sir. May the Force be with you.” Before they left of course, they had to abandon Count Dooku’s ill-gotten booty. (Or his ill-booten gotty.) Lovely that scene is, when Echo has that Last Crusade moment with Omega and assures her if he could go back, he’d do it all over again, and your reaction was everything, Jess. I also greatly appreciate your comments on Wilco, who was doing the damn thing. There is a reason that Count Dooku selected Jango Fett as the template for the clones. And as you saw, he was a damn fine soldier, and an honorable man. Thus, sadly, it is not tremendously surprising what happened to him given what a treacherous snake Rampart is. I knew Rampart’s Stalinesque manner of insisting the report reflect what he wants it to, leading to his showcasing such a despicable attitude toward the clones and viewing them as disposable, would incite your anger. All in all, a lovely first reaction to the second season of The Bad Batch, Jess, thank you so much.

Ryan

I remember there were a sizable amount of fans hoping Rampart would get a redemption arc, and I just wondered if we were watching the same show. Ultimately I just had to say "I know this kind of personality is what does it in bed for some of you, but you have to remember that's entirely a you thing."

Thomas Corp

The thing that hurts the proverbial and literal cliffhanger is that this two-parter premiered all at once. Say we had a week in between, ok, maybe it’s still not the most suspenseful, but like Jess showed in her reaction, that, “Wh-Oh, come on!” reaction, and leave you with the feeling of waiting to see how they get out of the tight spot. Excellently solid opening scene. As I said, it took a second to process Wanda being part of Star Wars, but I came around very quickly. She was great. Especially after that wonderful arc in Tales of the Jedi, yeah, it does highlight the tragedy of how Count Dooku allowed the Dark Lord to twist his mind until in the end, in the end he had become the very thing he swore to destroy. I remember Jess observing Dooku’s tragedy whilst watching Tales of the Jedi as well, and I loved her thoughts on that. I’ve loved Héctor in everything I’ve seen him in and was delighted by his role here as Romar. I’ll second the hope of seeing him in live-action, be it Héctor or you said Jim Beaver. And even if Jim didn’t play Romar in live-action, I’m with you on hoping for something of him in Star Wars. That emotional scene at the end where Echo convinces Omega to let it go, and abandon the prize, and how you see she’s gained illumination, yes, that is most certainly the kind of material that makes this show’s existence fully worthwhile.

Saltire le Hutt

To start with season 2, there is a slight time jump it seems, as Omega looks slightly older and the crew have changed their colour schemes and played around with their armour, to move away from their republic roots. As a guess, I'd say a couple of months has passed since they got off Kamino. Omega has certainly been training judging by how much of a boss she is dealing with those crabs, and she's studying other ship types too, which can only help on missions, as we see with her plan of using the crate to escape later. Speaking of missions, though Hunter is their leader and technically outranks them as he was a Sergeant, the crew has become more democratised and that he can't order them around since they are no longer soldiers of the Republic; hence he reluctantly goes along with them when they want to do the Dooku heist. As you note Jess, I like Echo's conversation with Hunter. Hunter wants them all to be safe and as far away from anything imperial as they can; but we saw all throughout Clone Wars, that Echo is a lot like Rex, a loyal soldier to the cause of freedom. Omega feels guilty as she overhears their conversation, but Echo doesn't regret what they done; just that they could do more to help others out there. As Ryan and Thomas have eloquently mentioned, we hear about the corruption of Dooku. I believe this was aired around the same time as Tales Of The Jedi, so was nice continuation on from Dooku supposedly wanting to rid the Republic of corruption, when he became entirely corrupt after joining the Sith. I'm glad you respected Captain Wilco's game Jess, he was clearly a very capable soldier and has our crew on the back foot all mission, being chased by fellow clones. And the Empire want to get rid of them and use stormtroopers... 2x2 : Always the height stuff with Wrecker, but he is a big brave boy and will reluctantly go through with these perilous situations! Love the way Tech talks about these events, and even how he speaks logically about sustaining a broken leg! :D The old man telling Tech about restoring his people's history and how they were around long before they became separatists, gives something for Tech to think about. His entire existence for being, was to be a soldier dealing with separatists. He has never thought about what life was like before all that, and in a way shows how he and the others have been tied to this thread too long. Its time for them to make their own path and live as they want - if they get the chance to. Echo of course disagrees as we pick back up with his frustration about not going back into the fight. Wrecker saves the day for him and Hunter as they are surrounded, when he literally becomes a walking tank of his own. Glad he got his chance to shine in that moment of inspiration, which puts him and Hunter back on the front foot against a platoon of experienced clone soldiers. Tech is an absolute boss though this second episode in taking out those clones with his broken leg. We perhaps misjudge his fighting abilities due to the nature of his gifts with his mind and with machinery, but we can see he can mix it up with the best of them when need be; and he won't let Echo and Omega get killed or captured if he has any say in the matter! Wilco getting gunned down by Admiral Rampart at the end, because he WON'T follow this order to cover up for him. He was a good soldier, yet thats not enough for the more nefarious officers higher up in the Empire. They are a long way from serving under the Jedi now...

Thomas Corp

It does seem like some time has passed, likely a few months like you said. The way Omega handled those crabs, you feel like a proud dad watching the progress she’s made. Love her studying the ships with Tech. The terrific thing about Hunter and Echo’s conversation is it’s treated as a “neither side is wrong” mentality. You get Hunter’s just wanting to remain under the radar. And you massively sympathize with Echo’s desire to continue being a good soldier and fight against the rising Empire. As I mentioned, I knew Jess would greatly appreciate that. Tales of the Jedi was late October 2022 as I recall, and this premiered within the first days of 2023, so yes, quite close together, and both serve as great counterpoints for Count Dooku’s story. Knowing Jess and her love for the clones, I suspect that she makes the concerted effort to clock and commit to memory their names. Tech is me with the speaking logically even whilst in tremendous pain. Though not quite as deadpan, it’s like on M*A*S*H when any of the main characters got wounded, they often tried distracting themselves, like Hawkeye once got a hunk of wood lodged in his leg and when it’s being treated and he’s asked does he want it removed, he quips, “Of course I do! If I want a souvenir, I’ll go to a gift shop.” The way Romar describes Dooku plundering his homeworld feels evocative of Nazi Germany, like how it’s observed in the first Captain America movie that people forget that the first country they invaded was their own. It is great how Tech is given that insight of life before the war and how it ties into their fight for the freedom to live whatever life they want. Figured you’d love Wrecker’s moment of ingenuity quite well. Tech taking out all those troops whilst suffering his injury, love for him increased even more than was already there. On some level, you knew he had to be able to throw down with the best of them if he’s right there on the front lines with his brothers. To actually see him showcase that skill to protect his family is a glorious sight to behold. The hatred for Rampart deepens seeing Rampart callously gun down Wilco.