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Doctor Who 1x05 "Dot and Bubble" Full Reaction - Sesskasays

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Azmat Mahmood

Holy fuck, THAT ending! Between Wild Blue Yonder, The Giggle, 73 Yards and now this, RTD has proven he hasn't lost a step after all these years and he's still the king of writing great, thought provoking Doctor Who with scathing social/political commentary.

TokuBLWhovian

The Oncoming Storm within 15 should’ve been fired up. I’d love to see the Doctor go mental when he, one of his companions or another is discriminated against.

Liam Kershaw-Calvert

This is one episode where in a rewatch you feel like watching it with new eyes. Insanely good!

Paul Hayes

Another very interesting and enjoyable reaction, as always. I hope you're feeling much better now!

Thomas Corp

Good to see that you’re feeling better, Jess. You mention how normally if there are symptoms of something, you’ll carry on, that’s me with the goddamned theatre mentality of powering through. I think I might be worse than you are with it as last month I went through being barely able to walk and I still showed up at work trying to do my job before my bosses saw how bad I was doing, and they made me throw in the towel. So, I feel your pain/I empathize most sincerely, Jess. Now to this damn good episode. This was a bit of an endurance test whilst still being a damn good episode. Kudos to the lady who played Lindy. I don’t recognize the actress, and I didn’t catch a name in the credits due to the next time on bit that I skipped past, which I don’t get why there’s no skip the next time button, seeing as how the skip intro button is so damn important to the youts in particular. I can see how the bubble would induce a claustrophobic spell for you. This entire episode makes me feel a lot better about the fact that I still use a flipphone. As you say, social media does have benefits and advantages, this went way past that. I was #Team Slug from the get-go if I’m being honest. Honestly, I’d say you were kinder to Lindy than I was during the earlier part of the episode. Me, I was expressing continuous frustration and disbelief at what a fatuous girl she was. When she’s unable to walk without the bubble, I yelled, “You can’t even FUCKING WALK without this thing!?! ...I, I cannot...even.” Or the blaming the Doctor and Ruby for the battery dying, my comment being, “You couldn’t just charge it overnight?! You know, plug it in right before you go to bed?!” I got the impression that this was going to be a case where we have an unlikable character that would grow at the end, or that you’re meant to relate to the Doctor’s trying to save them. Boy was I off the mark. After a certain point, I’m wearily groaning, “I’m getting too old for this shit.” Then Lindy mentions the place has the age restriction that everyone there is between seventeen and twenty-seven, which then made me rather happily note, “Oh, so I’m literally too old for this shit. Good.” I was also an asshole joking, “Shana, they bought their tickets. They knew what they were getting into. I say let them get eaten.” Sidenote, the mention of the two-hour workday, given all the available evidence, I suspect the way that works is that they get up at twelve and start to work at one, take an hour for lunch and then at two they’re done. I got so fucking triggered when they talked about chapped hands. Have any of them deal with over a decade of janitorial work during which your hands become chemically compromised, then they can talk. One area I was perhaps unfairly an asshole was with Ricky. I wasn’t as taken with him as it seems everyone else was, though he was surprisingly resourceful. I am glad you quite liked him. You, Ruby, and the Doctor can fight over him all you want, he’s not my type. When you expressed that you found Ricky sweet, and when he did a pretty damn good job trying to ward off the dot, I bemoaned, “Aw, Jeez.” in anticipation of what your reaction would be. Your anger and RIGHTEOUS cry of fury over Lindy pulling a cold-hearted sneak-attack betrayal leading to Ricky’s death was a beautiful thing to witness. And no need to apologize for calling Lindy a stupid bitch in response to her actions. I had a similar response when she was smiling whilst walking away from the carnage she left in her wake, then when she lied about it, and I was saying, “...You goddamn bitch.”

Thomas Corp

It’s at that point that after all the signs started presenting themselves, it becomes quite clear that Lindy suffers from acute narcissism, a complete lack of empathy, and is quite the pronoid individual. Bringing us to the big reveal. And we have yet another occasion where you demonstrate what a keen and sharp mind you have, Jess, because I loved it in the reaction where you kept clocking the red flags. And how you expressed, they all kept building up that when the penny dropped, it all fell into place. I caught a few of them myself, the big one being where Lindy didn’t immediately recognize the Doctor from earlier and outright said that she thought he was someone else who looked the same. You and I had a similar reaction, my thought being that you don’t have that line unless it’s deliberate. Usually anymore, it’s used as a bad joke. But the way it’s said, it was not done in a humorous way, and the ball started rolling. This episode does definitely feel as you describe it: you can do everything right, you can show such unwavering compassion and a desire to save people, to do the right thing, and still there will be people too stupid and prejudiced to accept that help. In this case it is because that their position will be to refuse help because of their racism, and said position is intractable and adamantine. You speak of how of course the Doctor still implores them to see reason, I don’t know, if Peter Capaldi was still the Doctor, we might see the Doctor go from Doctor Who to Malcolm Tucker. Certainly, you and I, and I’ve seen the fandom is of a similar mind, are very much in favor of the Finetimers fucking the fuck off and dying in the wild. Hell, if I were the Doctor, I’d have gone full-on Newman, proclaiming, “ALL RIGHT! But hear me and hear me well. The day will come. Oh, yes! Mark my words, Finetimers. Your day of reckoning is coming, when an evil wind will blow through your little play world and wipe that smug smile off your faces. And I’LL BE THERE! In ALL my GLORY!! WATCHING!! WATCHING as it all comes CRUMBLING DOWN!!!! BWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!! AAAH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!” Now, even with our complete lack of sympathy for the social media dependent racist moron fucks, it is such a soul crushingly devastating moment when the Doctor anguishes over the inability to save the Finetimers. Ncuti, like you said, sold the hell out of that scream, loved your reaction to that. Millie, likewise, sells well how Ruby’s heart breaks for the Doctor feeling that pain. Such a wonderfully downbeat and narratively satisfying ending. Oh, this episode, and now your reaction was terrific. I love that you’ve loved the season so far. It has been a strong one. I’ve really loved all the episodes. The bogeyman one, not as much, though it was still quite fun, seeing how much you enjoyed it elevated my own enjoyment, and in retrospect, it serves as a nice light hearted episode to warm us up before getting into these past few episodes which have all been so outstanding, matched in the level of outstanding by your sublime reactions. So, I thank you, Jess, for yet another wonderful Doctor Who reaction, and as I originally said, it is good to see you feeling better.

Ryan

People are letting Ricky off the hook way more than I did, when from all evidence he was likely just as racist as everyone else and was just smart enough to put it aside until the danger was over. Though Tom Rhys Harries (probably best known for Guy Ritchie's The Gentlemen) gives enough of a Doctor vibe that I wouldn't be opposed to them doing another Capaldi at some point.

Thomas Corp

No, yeah, I too am suspicious about Ricky. The thought is, as you said, that it is quite probable that he was just as prejudiced as the other Finetimers, he simply happened to be pragmatic enough to surmise that it was in his best interest to curb the racism until reaching safety. The great thing is that even if he is as prejudiced as the others, it does not diminish Lindy’s cold betrayal.

Ryan

Suddenly I want Martha Jones to return more than ever before. "What was that you told me, that I shouldn't worry about walking around in racist societies because your white ass never had a problem with it? You care to amend that now, Brother?" Boy, in retrospect there were some pretty obvious clues about Gareth Roberts, huh? I've never seen any of Callie Cooke's other work, but I really want to check it out now. It's pretty karmic that we just got the Fargo reaction, as she has maybe an even harder job of playing a character who's deliberately annoying and unlikable, in a way that doesn't make it unbearable to spend the entire episode with her. And she's just as good as Margot Robbie at making normal walking look like a really hard, unnatural thing (though not gonna lie, when she was struggling to resist following the arrow into the elevator, my autistic and OCD mind instantly responded "You know...I get it."). It wasn't much of a surprise to see just about every non-white reactor immediately flagged the whole society being racist, while the white ones all have different spots where they caught on (I especially recommend the review of Council of Geeks, who admits it took the "voodoo" line to make it clear to her, which is a big sign of her white privilege). I actually lost my chance to go in purely blind as before the episode's release I saw a post complaining about the all-white guest cast, meaning the issue was already in my head and probably primed me to notice stuff like "I thought you just looked the same." And I'm so glad we got the ending we did, as painful as it is. For one thing, it gives Ncuti what will probably be his big defining moment of speechifying about the Doctor's core philosophy. This is his "One day I will come back," his "Have I that right?", his "This is a scale model of war." And more than that, the idea that some people simply don't deserve to be saved is one that frankly we could stand to see more of at this particular moment (and to really bake your noodle, just imagine how many TARDIS teams would have saved everyone and happily gone on their way with no idea how much it wasn't deserved). I imagine my face looked much the same as yours during the whole last ten minutes. Making this even more impressive is that RTD originally pitched this story to Moffat as an Eleven story, which presumably means all the racism stuff wasn't developed as a core part of the idea and only added now, when he needed to come up with some other way to accommodate Ncuti's obligations to Sex Education without having him absent from a quarter of the season. And the whole setup works beautifully; I especially love how from Ruby's first appearance pretending to be tech support, you can perfectly imagine the entire conversation she and the Doctor had about what approach to take after the first one got him blocked. I wouldn't say it's quite on the same level as 77 Feet, but it's absolutely right in the number two spot.

Thomas Corp

It would be quite satisfying to see Martha call the Doctor out on his flippant response to her worries and concerns that she raised. Yeah, this is fitting getting this reaction right after the Fargo reaction with Callie Cooke as Lindy having as you say, the harder job than William H. Macy had as Jerry with playing a character who’s deliberately annoying and unlikable, in a way that doesn’t make it unbearable to spend the entire episode with her. My temperament made me find her pretty unbearable, yet I applauded the talent in the performance, and I was assuming, given Doctor Who past, that we were building toward Lindy growing and/or showing some surprising smarts or skills that helps save the day at the end. Which of course, that didn’t happen. Good comparison to the walking in Barbie. And concerning how you say you got the elevator scene, I take your point. The big draw in the reactions would be what is the first red flag that gets clocked/when does the penny drop. Sorry to hear you lost the chance to go into this blind. I was actually out of the house when this dropped. These past few weeks I’ve jumped on the episodes pretty much on the dot. And given how the Whovian fandom can be worse than Star Wars about being the complete opposite of tight-lipped, spoiler-wise, I’m amazed that miraculously I didn’t get spoiled. I do get what you mean of the complaints you heard give you the better idea of what to look for. As I said, though the other signs did not go unnoticed, the “I thought you just looked the same” was the biggest red flag that I caught as that’s not a line you accidentally put into a story, unless you’re irretrievably stupid. Painful though it is, the ending is fantastic. It’s like how Brad Bird described downbeat endings to a film can be some of the best, how you have, “one of those endings where it feels complete, and you feel like you’ve had a full meal that tastes good, but that doesn’t mean that it lacks bitterness. There is bitterness in there that is intended and is part of the correct ending for this film. So, it’s a great example of a satisfying ending that isn’t necessarily a completely happy one.” We are still early, though I do concur that this will be one of the best speechifying moments that Ncuti gets as the Doctor. I’m all for that message of some people just don’t deserve to be saved being a type of ending that should appear in more stuff these days. I have heard the observation of the idea of the irony of past Tardis crews saving the Funtimers blissfully unaware how undeserving their being saved was. My face during the last ten minutes probably looked like the bollocking face that Peter Capaldi had as Malcolm Tucker. I also heard that Davies originally wrote this for Matt Smith’s run. Supposing the ending had the same message, I presume that Davies would have gone allegorical with it by having the Finetimers exhibit an alien prejudice due to the Doctor being a Time Lord. (Strictly speaking, I guess he’s not a Time Lord, but the Timeless Child business was a decade away by then.) My thought being that once Davies cast Ncuti, he decided to be bold about the script and decided to remove the allegory, and just outright go for broke with the message. I’ve been impressed by Davies accommodating Ncut’s schedule, both working in his absence and having a story that still has him involved in a way that works around the schedule in completely organic manner. That is a good note on Ruby and the Doctor having the conversation about strategy. This one, and the last two episodes are about evenly ranked for me, each for different reasons. I’m loving this season.

Thomas Corp

Oh, by the way, I don’t know if you’re already aware, Godzilla Minus One is available on Netflix now. I just heard about it the other day. I saw you said that you were holding off recommending it for the poll until it was more readily available. Just if you hadn’t heard about that, thought you might like to know.

Ryan

Yeah, I checked it out just to see what the English dub was like, and it's one of those perfectly serviceable ones where you should definitely watch it if Japanese if you have the choice but it doesn't hurt anything. It was also a relief to see the black and white version is coming next month, as I easily find that the superior experience, both for putting you more in the era and for hiding some of the flaws in the CGI, which for all its Oscar-winning awesomeness still has a few moments that don't look quite right in color.

Josef Schiltz

Only just this minute heard that William Russell passed away yesterday, aged 99. Legend.

Josef Schiltz

Only just this minute heard that William Russell passed away yesterday, aged 99. Legend.

Aimee Lynn

This is such a good episode. Also, I don't know if you've heard yet, but I figured you'd care more than most reactors I watch. William Russell, aka Ian Chesterton, passed away yesterday.

Andrew Vignaux

Thanks for the reaction. What a powerful episode. And as for the small delay in being able to react to it - I hope you are feeling better - I took the opportunity to re-watch your wonderful "The Hobbit" reactions again.