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Ryan

For as much as Dee Bradley Baker is usually awesome, he takes it to another level here by spending a whole episode having an angry argument with himself. I don't know what his process is, whether he does these whole scenes in real order or just all his lines in one voice at a time, but this is maybe the hardest dynamic to pull off and make it believable that you're hearing different characters, so whatever it is, it works. Michelle Ang also does great work, making you feel her loss even while delivering lines that have nothing to do with Echo. But most of all, as a member of the autistic community I'm absolutely here for Tech. So much here speaks directly to me: the trouble telling when people don't mean what they say, easy irritation when other people don't seem to make sense, and difficulty showing emotion while half the time not even being aware how cold and distant it makes you look. That final line about how showing emotions differently doesn't mean you don't have them, most of all, where after nearly 40 years of experience I've gotten better at making my reactions clear to normies but there's still occasional times where I can tell they missed it. Right there with you on "Tech, you have been getting me in my feels." And it all leads up to the other shoe we've been waiting to drop with Cid, where for all we can tell she genuinely can't send help any sooner, but is still such an unnecessary jerk about it that you can see what certain people were talking about with how you shouldn't completely trust her. And you got to see these together; just imagine having a week to stew on everything this episode stirred up. "So who is this Mokko?" Oh you know, M*A*S*H, Conan, Avatar, any of this ringing a bell? But what better way to follow up a constantly angsty and stressful episode than the catharsis of seeing the Batch take down the one purely evil bad guy we've had this season (since even Rampart was motivated at least partly by fear of what Palpatine would do if he failed)? So we get a family-friendly Immortan Joe, and the episode proves just as good at the visual storytelling to convey how this whole setup works with hardly any dialogue spelling it out, starting with Benni eagerly scarfing down one of the ration bars that have long been established as like eating cardboard. That's really all there is to say about this one, just a straightforward action piece to get the Batch out of the jam from last time, but it's done about as well as you can do that.

Thomas Corp

These were highly anticipated episodes in terms of revisiting them, and by extension, I knew your reaction would be great, Jess. This being the Dad Batch and all, figured what the hell, and rewatched these two days ago on Father’s Day, which is about the only real holiday festivities that I took part in. Sounds depressing, I know, and it is. Aside from tying one on, there’s not a whole lot I can do on the day. Not anymore. We open with our first mission without Echo, and we have Omega speaking for your heart on missing him. You’re right that it’s easier for the batchers given the Crosshair situation, combined with how Tech notes that they were a squad before Echo joined. Tension and friction abound once the ship gets stolen, and your reactions to the snappy dialogue was great. I KNEW you were going to comment on the Lion King homage. It was so superbly well done enough that I could hear Hans playing in my head whilst seeing it. The whole thing did NOT do my mood any favors the other day, more so because of the particular scene they paid homage to. The big highlight of the episode was the focus on Tech. Like you said, his somewhat blunt manner was an attempt to help Omega cope with Echo’s departure, and it did not have the desired effect. A jolt when Omega falls, and Tech overwhelms our emotions when he didn’t flinch before jumping after her, your reaction to that got me. He did better than I would have done. I can’t swim, not well anyway. Main problem is holding my breath is difficult without plugging my nose. That and I can sink like a stone. It leads to the amazing scene of Tech and Omega having their talk, and Dee and Michelle are so excellent. Tech is often interpreted as being autistic, or at least neurodivergent. This episode is the biggest one where that idea gets cemented for lots of fans. As someone who is on the spectrum, that scene where he confesses that he does care even if he processes and expresses it in a different way resonates beyond all belief. It would almost feel like a personal attack were it not for the fact that you can tell there is such care and nuance in the writing, and Dee’s acting is perfect. There’s also how he says he does not know how to deal with change; I hear you on the having problems dealing with change. The whole scene just claws into my heart and soul beyond belief. Just as your reaction, Jess, has now done the same. I am SO appreciative of that reaction, and later the analysis and discussion of that scene. It’s this episode fans started getting ugly toward Cid. I find I’m not quite as harsh. What she did itself isn’t a crime. I mean, lots of times, you call people at inopportune moments. But her manner when saying she’s tied up strongly indicates that she doesn’t have the batch’s best interests at heart, even after all they’ve done for her. A benefit of the doubt is also given as she still hasn’t sold them down the river. The second episode is a great action-packed Oliver Twist type deal. Complete with a nasty villain. Mokko surely is a repugnant individual. The kind of guy that in our world would have been one of those covid hoarders probably. I anticipated your distaste for him. Amazing though it may seem, he’s still not the most universally hated character in the show, we’ll get to that character in a minute. Even so, Mokko’s still pretty goddamn hateful. He certainly set himself up a small little fiefdom since Anakin stuck his lightsaber into Wat Tambor once or twice. Of course, there’s the joke where Tech asks who Mokko is, and you say, “Well, Tech, it’s like this: “Long ago in a distant la-” Oh, wait, sorry, that’s Mako, not Mokko, easy mistake.” Omega continues to warm the heart by being a kind and generous lovely soul. Your heart does go out to Benni and the other kids. Hunter gets some great moments. First, that pretty damned badass moment of assessing the playing field, hopping to lickety-split by taking out the droid and getting in, all aided by you delightfully cheering him on. Second, is when he saves Omega with that fantastic move. And even better, as you pointed out, she has complete confidence that he will not fail. Immensely satisfying it is to see Mokko be exposed. Just as hilariously karmic it is to see Mokko’s swing and a miss, leading to shared laughs on our end. It’s the little things in life. It ends with that great observation that the Empire is not the only evil or wickedness in the galaxy, and it is lovely to see Tech assure Omega with his words, leading to your terrific reaction to that. God, I forgot how good these episodes are. I am so happy that you are loving and investing in this show as you have, Jess. Thank you for the amazing reaction.

Ryan

The comparison to Mako is just unavoidable, huh? I first met him watching M*A*S*H reruns as a kid, where he made several guest appearances as different characters and that one short name always stood out in the credits. And much as this will be completely meaningless to anyone who hasn't seen The Boys, good thing Omega didn't have a baby arm at that moment.

Thomas Corp

I think Dee’s process is just doing all the lines back-to-back. Exceptions would be if there’s overlapping dialogue/characters cutting each other off, then he would have to do the voices individually. Michelle is beyond impressive with her voice work here; you feel the feelings of loss, like you said. Wholeheartedly second everything you say on the Tech scenes and relating so much to him, and as someone who is a member of the autistic community, being absolutely here for everything about him. The difficulty of telling when people don’t mean what they say, frustration when people don’t make sense, and the immensely titanic trouble of showing emotion and not realizing how cold and/or distant you come across as. The line of just because emotions are expressed and processed differently doesn’t mean that you don’t have them, that’s thirty-three years of age in my case, it’s practically a lifelong struggle to try and improve and get better, yet you try. You may not always succeed, but you try. Tech got all of us in the feels, you, me, Jess, and the fandom from the sound of it. Yeah, Cid, like I said, genuinely being unable to help right then and there is one thing, but the manner she conveyed that got under our skins. It was a long week seeing what would happen next. It’s great to see the shared response to the name Mokko and the subsequent Mako references. All that you listed is great. There’s also Samurai Jack, and there’s his Oscar nomination for The Sand Pebbles. The batch taking out Mokko’s little fiefdom is quite a welcome stress reliever. Hadn’t thought to compare the character to Immortan Joe, but you say that, and I do see it. Strong visual storytelling where the show has enough faith that the audience is smart enough to piece together what’s up without spelling out the deal. Like you said, a bog-standard action set-piece, but it’s done very well, so it’s no bother. I had a great time with it.

DieWinterkirsche

I love that the second episode is a pretty good example of predatory capitalism.

Saltire le Hutt

Firstly, I love the understated scoring Kiner and his team do in this episode, its very quiet and contemplative from the opening scene, through to the brilliant little tune that's used when Omega is mining the ipsium. You can feel it linking in well with Omega's state of mind here. And we see Omega here throughout, struggling with Echo's decision. The rest are better used to it, they are soldiers, especially when Tech bluntly points it out to Omega that they existed as a squad before Echo, and will do so after. Its not what she needed to hear though; Tech put his foot in it. Tech is very narky with Wrecker this episode, for losing the ship and the ipsium. Its a side we don't usually see with him and Dee Bradley Baker makes the most of it, giving some words real bite in his verbal attacks on Wrecker. I also find it hilarious when the rock hits Wrecker as they are escaping the storm and he yells "hey!!!" as if blaming the rock for it! There is another bit that tickles me, is when Omega and Tech are thrown out of the waterfall in the underground cavern, and when they get out of the water, Tech briefly lifts his goggles to get the remnants of the water out of them. I know these things happen, but I just love that little bit of animation. :) Tech can appear distant as is his way, but we see that when Omega falls into the underground cavern, he doesn't hesitate to jump in to help her. They are indeed family. Tech respects the decisions of Echo and Crosshair, even if he doesn't understand Crosshair's decision especially. As Ryan and Thomas note, Dee Bradley Baker plays Tech as if he is on the autistic spectrum; and I don't want to do them a disservice by trying to empathise with how Tech sees things. He explains that he respects Crosshair and Echo's decisions, and how he cares about his family in his way, even if he can come across as abrasive at times. When Omega hears this, she understands him better, and this helps her recover from her nadir. After they escape and contact Cid to ask for help, she is pretty disinterested in their predicament, only reluctantly will say she'll send help and cuts them off. After all they have done for her, she reacts in this way. Omega however has a spring in her step once more, and confirms Tech's line from earlier that they'll find a way on their own to get off this rock. After the drama of the previous arc, this episode is a lot quieter, but no less impactful for our crew, and improves greatly with each rewatch imo. 2x10 : Haha, how did they get Wrecker on that speeder bike along with the others! Talking of Wrecker, he almost took that kid's head off! :D Hunter is a boss as he infiltrates the base through the stack, and saves Omega at the end. He's not lost his touch. Not so much to say on this one, its a tale we've heard before in Star Wars about people being oppressed and rising from it. I suppose someone like Mokko is the type of parasite to survive during these times, feeding off others desperation. He gets his comeuppance by the end though. Cool design he was though; he's a new species design for Star Wars which doesn't even have a name yet. He can certainly eat as well, he'd give Jabba a run for his money there! There is also a lot of Temple Of Doom in this one too with the child slave labour hints. The thief reminds me a lot of early Ezra. He has the gift of the gab, and is obviously a good little thief. Omega is taking none of his bluff and bluster though, she's learning! Tech is right at the end though. For all the corruption and exploitation around in the galaxy at this time; there is still plenty of others that will start to fight back against this, and eventually prevail. Shame its all fantasy though and doesn't happen so much in our world...

Thomas Corp

The score was great. There sounded like a bit of Ennio to open which was great. It stands to reason that as battle worn soldiers, the adult batchers are more used to dealing with loss. Tech isn’t even wrong, it’s just, as you say, not what Omega needs or wants to hear. It sounds like Dee had a day with Tech and Wrecker engaging in the verbal art of thrust and parry. That is a good touch with the goggles. The whole scene with Tech was amazing seeing it for the first time. As you note, though he may not agree with or understand Crosshair’s decisions, he respects them as best he can. Likewise, though Echo’s absence does weigh on him, he respects the decision Echo made, and is trying to make peace with that. And it feels so relatable how Tech speaks to Omega that he does care about his family, even if he shows it in a way that is not deemed “normal”. I got younger cousins, and such a conversation is very realistic in that you explain how given your brain is wired the way it is, you’re going to see and process the world in your own way, and there will be difficulties that come with that. You still care, like how Tech shows where he just jumped lightning quick after Omega, love the reaction that Jess had to that. I read your comment on how, as it pertains to Tech, being on the autism spectrum and how you don’t want to do the disservice by trying to empathize, appreciate that. Cid did showcase some strong disinterest bordering on apathy in helping our heroes. Though Omega gets a light spring back into her step, and it’s sweet when she echos what Tech said. I was wondering how Wrecker managed being on the speeder bike. Similarly, it’s a miracle he didn’t take the kids head off. Hunter was amazing with the moves. The episode itself has a familiar plot. Mokko was quite the avaricious leech. Like I said, I likened him to a covid hoarder. He got his just desserts and a cool design. Yeah, haven’t caught what his species is. A strong Dickensian Temple of Doom vibe. The kid feels in the similar vein of early Ezra and young Han. Great that Omega sees through the bull. Tech does have the great line at the end, and yes, it would be very nice if it rang just as true in the real world as it does in Star Wars.