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Thomas Corp

That’s a lovely sherbert color on that top, Jess. It looks very nice. Oh, don’t worry, there was anticipation of how loud the reaction would get, understandable given the majesty of the episode. You’re reacting with horror and shock with your heart racing to the Sith having a day with the Jedi, whereas I’m reacting with unrestrained GLEE. I’m taking it all in, saying, “What a BEAUTIFUL display.” If nothing else, this show gives me this GLORIOUS scene of quality Sith slaughtering Jedi material, and I am past the point of caring if the internet minds if I just savor all of it. The one Jedi is slain, and my immediate thought is, “...Well, NOW we know for sure that this Jedi is NOT Plo.” Jecki did have strong X-23 energy in being impressive as all hell. I was sorry to see her die, but then again, she died well, brutal though it was. I’m awful in that I cackled over your reaction to that. She would indeed have been quite a force to be reckoned with if she had lived. Quite something when the masky-helmet breaks leading to the reveal. It appears that I stand corrected that Qimir was the Sith. So, I was wrong this time. I do appreciate that, as you observed, it doesn’t present itself as a monumental curveball, and whilst not at the level of Tech’s famous “Well... I thought it was obvious.” line, I do like they sort of lampshade how it ended up not being the biggest shock in the world. To your one point, you’re less focused on the reveal itself, and more focused on the hard truths and philosophies that Qimir espoused. Like you, I admired those aspects. Especially when he notes parallels which have always existed. He is right on that. For instance: The Sith and the Jedi are often the same in the eyes of the masses, in and out of universe. They are admired and hero-worshipped, but there is always present, an underlying wish to see them destroyed at the peak of their glory. So, all of that was grand. Although, I sense there is more to this story than we have been told. Among other things, Qimir mentions wanting a pupil, an Acolyte. Acolyte, not apprentice. Always two there are: a master and an apprentice. Mayhaps there is someone else waiting in the wings? Or mayhaps he is a renegade Sith akin to Darth Maul during the Clone Wars onward, that’s separate from the Rule of Two. If not, fine, as it is, though Qimir for the moment seems to be the overarching villain, the greater emotional heart of this narrative is the sisters. And whatever fuckery the Jedi got up to. I had a laugh when you were telling Yord to do what Osha said about sheathing his sword, made me chime in, “Hey! Yo! Little Yord Fauntleroy, listen to Jess here!” I confess my cruelty in having Mark Hamill Joker cackles over Yord’s death. For a Jedi Sentinel, he put in a piss poor showing. Christ. And Mae should take notes of how Yord provided a demonstration of how a Jedi could be killed without weapons, how very charitable of him. I’m so sorry. That’s really mean and below the belt. I retract that one. Still, I’m hearing that the Yord Horde is distraught given that they cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced, before yelling, “How can you do this? This is outrageous! It’s unfair!” and my contribution to the proceedings is to say, “Yes. Very sad. Anyway!” Sol in action was awesome. Quite something, as you observed when Sol basically went hand to hand with Qimir, with a look that screams, “We’re going to throw down, Boy.” Sol is definitely keeping things from Osha. The Jedi teach many things. But they do not teach how to cover-up fuckery. Which is why they’re so BAD at it. It again makes you ask: How do we know that Mae is responsible for the death of the witches, the answer being because Sol, Osha, and the other Jedi say so, so they say. One thing for sure, we’ve dealt with the matter of the line Ki-Adi-Mundi had in The Phantom Menace, which, by the way, this after the week of people having tantrums about his age. The memes about that have been hysterical. My brother and I have sent several of them back-and-forth, and we’ve been laughing ourselves silly. My own thought of it all is, “Holy shit! Are you kidding me? We’re fucking tying our shorts up in knots over a goddamn age discrepancy? I mean, I get it, we’re nerds, we’re pedantic at the best of times, but people, there is a LINE.” Now all the Jedi save Sol are dead. Sol’s already viewed as something of a radical. Vernestra is already being dismissive of him for his attachments “flaw”, so, the disparity of Ki-Adi’s line and the plot of this show, problem solved. And now we finally really lean into the Dead Ringer of all of this. Or finally really lean into the A Stolen Life of all of this, if one prefers. It seems Sol might see through this “Parent Trap situation” as you call it. He refers to Mae as “Your sister” rather than just calling her Mae. If not, Bazil will sniff out the truth, along with the burnt hair I would imagine. Qmir sure as shit knows. Oh, this reaction was magnificent, Jess. My ears were fine. Thanks for asking. And thank you for this reaction, I loved it.

Ryan
>>141925605

It feels like Yord came up with his big idea of using the lightsaber-deactivating helmet against Qimir, and thought that was going to do the job all on its own. My big question about the Ki-Adi stuff is, what exactly is there in his canon appearances before this that gives the impression he wouldn't be a petty bitch who would lie about the Sith? I remember when we all just called him Penis Head because that was literally all we had to go on from Phantom Menace, and there really hasn't been much else added since.

Ryan

I said last time that I've been worried from the start that the Sith's unmasking would either be a character we don't care about, or the one super obvious choice. And the whole time, there was a third option I'd never considered: that his identity was never supposed to be some huge climactic twist, but just a minor reveal halfway through to mark the point that the setup is over and the gloves are coming off. And I'm always a sucker for the all-too-rare times where someone is revealed to be hiding something huge, yet nothing about their core personality was an act (the best of these that's ever been done is Bradley Whitford in The Handmaid's Tale). Throughout all of The Good Place I never dreamed that Manny Jacinto had this kind of performance in him, and I can't wait to see what else is in there. And I'm absolutely digging his armor that deactivates lightsabers, especially how it actually makes it believable that the Jedi wouldn't just all bull-rush him unlike the notorious four-on-one against Palpatine from Revenge of the Sith. Anyone else think for a bit when Mae cuts her hair that she was just not hiding the witch seal on her forehead anymore? Anyway, it's very appreciated that the show trusts that was all we needed to realize what was going on, with the camerawork not even giving any special attention to Osha's tattoo when Qimir finds her, which is obviously going to be how Sol catches on after they went to the trouble of pointing it out in the first episode. Though the Filligree Siberian Hamster is probably going to sniff her out too, and I'm very worried what that means for him. I was pretty confused when the last episode was just called Day, but having this one called Night pulls it all together. And we need to pour one out for Jecki, who certainly proved herself a master of karate and friendship for everyone. Yord not so much, and he didn't even get to hang-glide with a pterodactyl. This may be the biggest "So you thought you knew what the whole show was going to be?" moment I've experienced since the third episode of Arcane, and I've never been more excited to see what's up next.

Thomas Corp
>>141929170

The reveal about Qimir being as early as it was does flip the script some. Again, not seen The Good Place, so I don’t have that to compare to. Still, this guy’s doing well. The Cortosis armor was dope. The witch mark has crossed my mind, though yeah, Chekhov’s tattoo is going to factor into things. Not to mention the Filligree Siberian Hamster, though I’m slightly disappointed that the joke about him secretly being Darth Bazil didn’t come true. Ah well. Love the titles rhyming. That did lead to one wiseass remark that I had which was, “Wait, Truffaut’s not directing this. Is he?” I did have a beer or two following the episode’s conclusion, both in a celebratory mood for how damn good the episode was, and in a moment of silence for Jecki. She died well, as I said. Shame she doesn’t have her dad’s healing powers, nor the adamantium. (Could lightsabers cut through that, I wonder?) I’ve been hearing parts of the internet are upset about Yord. Not me. Concerning the getting to hang-glide with a pterodactyl, I don’t even understand the reference, though given you’ve commented on Russian Doll, I would imagine that it’s connected to that. One thing for sure, he did NOT step up to the plate like Rex did in Invincible. Speaking of, how you said about the “So you thought you knew what the whole show was going to be?” type deal, the first episode’s ending of Invincible stands out in that regard, especially because I still haven’t read the comics. That third episode of Arcane is a strong showcase of such a turn that the plot takes. And that too has the strong sisterly focus. Hm. Yeah, I’m pumped for what comes next with this show.

Ryan
>>141929170

The reference is to an '80s fantasy movie called Yor, the Hunter from the Future. It's a bit obscure, but has a big cult following as one of those movies that's bad in an endlessly fun way, and its most memorable scene is when Yor needs to quickly get to a cave where his love interest is captured, so he shoots down a pterodactyl and uses it to hang-glide in and do a flying drop kick to one of the bad guys. I also threw in a reference there to It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia due mostly to the episode names, with its musical about a superhero and villain named Dayman and Nightman, with the lyric "You're a master of karate and friendship for everyone."

Thomas Corp
>>141929170

Ah, ok, that slides into place, and more creative than most of the other Yord puns that I’ve seen the internet make. Good shout with the Dayman and Nightman business. Now if only we can get the troll involved, especially if we can get Danny DeVito.

Saltire

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Yord!! My sweet prince! I want this guy dead! I want his family dead! I want his house burned to the ground! I want to go there in the middle of the night and piss on his ashes! Those fucking Sith!!! Oh they nailed this episode big time. The fighting choreography, editing, use of the environment in the fights and directing were spot on here. Grown men like myself will be drooling over this episode for a long time!!! :D Even though I'm totally on the side of the Jedi always, seeing them get cut down from this absolute lunatic, is AWESOME! The poor Kel Dor gets Shaak-Ti'd, the cortosis gauntlets and helmet shorting out the lightsabres and the double kill with the single lightsabre dig and pull, was very reminiscent of Asajj Ventress. All we needed was for him to kiss them before he decapitated them, almost akin to Ventress in her scene. My boy Yord gets cut up and Osha is able to divert this Sith long enough for Yord to escape, though it won't be for long! :( The sabre throw, Sol's deflection, the trees getting cut and then the build up to their duel, ALL before the credits roll! Yes this will do nicely!! You hear it now and again through the mask, but it sounds like he's snarling. Just adding to the almost bestial nature of the way this Sith approaches his fights. Its wild, its unhinged, its brutal and there is no mercy to it whatsoever as we see as the episode continues. Jecki too is awesome, and at many times feels like young Ahsoka in her dedication to bring Mae and the Sith to justice and end this. Each fight brings emotion, and thats when Star Wars fight scenes are at their best; you can relate to each of them in their determination to win their respective battles, though Mae just wants to get out of there somehow. "At least she didn't die" - yes Jess, we were all glad about that temporarily, and didn't think they would kill any of our followed characters just yet... :( Mae subconsciously calling out to Osha to help is a nice touch, and Osha listens and brings her and Yord back into the fray, but at what cost! Back to the fight, and again Jecki is an absolute boss, helping Sol out when his sabre gets shorted out briefly, whips off Qimir's helmet and briefly has the upper hand. It just pisses him off though and he kills her so brutally! Poor kid. "Was that it's name?" he taunts as he tries to unhinge Sol further. This slimy motherfucker! It gets me wound up, god knows how Sol must be feeling to have his party get decimated like this - and it isn't even done yet! This unbalancing of Sol works, as he is correct that Sol does attack him with his back turned, very naughty but understandable. Jecki also does this a few times in her fights too. The Jedi are being tested to the limit by this hooligan. So Qimir tells Sol he would be called by them a Sith; and this gives a bit of room for later with the Jedi being ignorant about the Sith still being out there 100 years from now. He's telling Sol that all darksiders with red lightsabres would be deemed Sith by them, be it the case or not. I think he is definitely a Sith however, some of the lines he has espoused throughout echo the Sith code ("peace is a lie" etc). He is after an acolyte NOT an apprentice, like Dooku had with Ventress, meaning he himself probably has a master he is trying to surpass one day. Whether that be Darth Tenebrous or Darth Plagueis before he took to train Sidious. Lets see. I'm also curious to see what will be made of this massacre when Sol gets back to Coruscant. Also for him, his reasoning is just, he wants freedom to express himself as a Sith, something the Republic and Jedi won't allow, and we saw in episode 3 here that the witches were very angry about the Jedi coming in and flouting Republic regulations at them. Is this all the start of the hubris, of the downfall? Then we get to it, my dear beloved numbskull, Yord, the greatest Jedi Grandmaster who never was, gets taken down so brutally by Qimir. That hit me like a truck. I will light a candle for him for a month to remember him so! :( This villainy causes Sol to reach the precipice towards the darkside as he pounds on Qimir, overpowers him, then tries to kill him when he is defenseless (Mace Windu all over again). Osha brings him back from teetering and uses those horrible moth things to temporarily take Qimir out. Nice. A few lines Qimir says though shows that Sol has secrets that he hasn't shared with Osha and Mae, and that a he has something terrible to hide from them. Mae and Osha have a kind of heart to heart, where both see what happened to them from very different points of view. Osha has faith in the Jedi (we'll see if that stays as the show continues) and Mae thinks they invaded their coven and destroyed their lives (and echoing Anakin's line to Obi-Wan before their first duel about having Padme be turned against him by the Jedi). Mae gets the upper hand as their argument turns into a scrap, and disguises herself as her sister to get off this rock, and get closer to Sol, to presumably kill him in order to finish her mission. I've heard people say why Sol doesn't sense Mae infiltrating here, but his mind is in no fit state after all thats happened here. He is very unbalanced and confused. Bazil could be "the key to all this", though will need to find a way to tell Sol that he has the wrong sister. Qimir will then take Osha to god knows where, though he was able to sense she wasn't Mae in the apothecary, so will see what happens when she awakes. What a humdinger of an episode! :D

Saltire
>>141925605

Yes I was interested in hearing Qimir's manifesto that the Jedi and Republic limit what people with abilities might be able to show, if not for their regulations and pesky morals. :P I'm with Jess, maniacs like the Sith need to be put on a leash, but from their pov there is some truth to what they believe in. Ironically the last line of the Sith Code mentions about the force freeing them, which is pretty much how Jedi themselves operate. I am displeased with your disregard and cackling of my beloved Yord being slain like that Thomas!! I shall erect a shrine to him in honour of his wondrousness! You go off in a corner and think about what you've done! ;)

Thomas Corp
>>141925605

Those pesky morals always do get in the way of letting the Sith fly. That’s just it, easy though it would be to dismiss the Sith and their teachings wholesale, there’s lots of truth to their teachings, in and out of universe. “The Force shall free me” All a Sith aspires for. It’s funny. I always have to look up what the Jedi code is, whereas the Sith code is burned into my memory. There’s also the pearl of pure wisdom from Maul, “The chains. The chains are the EASY part. It’s what goes on, in HERE, that’s HARD.” The shrine to Yord that you say you will build, please, by all means. I thought about my actions. I’m quite content with what I did. The internet’s likely after me, albeit not as badly as they want to crucify me for who my favorite character is on House of the Messy, er, sorry, House of the Dragon. Still, they are quite mad at me for my reaction to this Yord business. Don’t even care.

Thomas Corp
>>142052201

Ah. Alas, poor Yord. I knew him, well, actually, Horatio, I didn’t know him all that well, yet he seemed decent enough. I see his unfortunate passing has incited the Al Capone in you. Me, it incited the Mark Hamill as the Joker in me. Specifically, I think this Joker cackle was the gut reaction: https://youtu.be/wcinzmfZeCc?si=FSymcAuymmYaYOP6 Oh, yes, there was immense appreciation over everything being so superb about the saber portions of the episode. All those moments filled me with glee, especially that double kill Sithkibob move. Shame that he didn’t give us a kiss before dying as dear Ventress did. That saber throw that ended up felling the trees was a nice touch. The bestial sounds are apt considering the cortosis helmet looking like Bruce meets the Xenomorph. I already liked Jecki. Seeing her unleashed with her going full-on X-23 cemented my respect. I hope the Jedi remember her. That death was brutal as was the taunting done afterward. Hard to blame Sol for losing it as he did. Yeah, Qimir does not explicitly call himself a Sith, and given how literal the Sith are with wordplay, that allows the wiggle room, as you noted. He definitely is, at least a renegade Sith. So, you caught that too about his use of the word Acolyte. Again, the Sith are very literal with their wordplay. It does feel like a Dooku and Ventress situation, or how the Emperor and Darth Vader had the Inquisitorious. Alternatively, how the Emperor was already training Maul whilst he was still the apprentice, how he seduced Dooku to become Tyranus before Maul was bisected, and his thirteen years long efforts to groom Anakin to become Vader. One thing for sure, Qimir is not either Tenebrous or Plagueis, and the master of Tenebrous was a Twi’lek, so he’s not that Sith And although Sidious is the only known apprentice of Plagueis, it’s not impossible that Qimir was another apprentice. If so, it would be interesting if Plagueis does appear, preferably with any of the actors on my short list for ideal casting. Whilst there is of course the danger of allowing a Sith freedom to wield their power unchecked, it is a deliberate parallel to the coven, and the very murky waters that the Jedi were wading in, ethics-wise. Credit where credit is due, Yord’s move with the cortosis was smart. Shame it was not enough. I’m hearing the internet is in distraught mourning, and I’m being such a goddamn asshole cackling myself silly. Reminds me that I still haven’t heard from my brother his thoughts on Yord yet. My own feelings, clearly my soul is dead, but with a song in my heart. Seriously though, I am sorry to hear that his death got you that badly. That is a moment when Sol is at the edge. Like Mace all over again. I like the humanity of it how though Sol does adhere to the Jedi way, he’s in a state that he wants to forgo that, and it takes him some effort not to give in. Or going back to Mace, he had the similar look of silently acknowledging how Anakin was saying that killing Palpatine unarmed was not the Jedi way, (hypocrite though he is about that, though still, he’s not incorrect.) and Mace loses himself, then his hand, then his life. Sol, by contrast stays in the Light, though there is the specifics of what he and the other Jedi did to the witches. How he said about Qimir’s mind being twisted by darkness after Qimir infers some hidden truths, made me note, “Very suspicious, your reaction. Very suspicious.” The confrontation between the sisters is definitely reminiscent of the infamous Mustafar confrontation. It reminds me that we still only have Osha’s perspective to go on, and it seems Mae knows something Osha does not. Or at least believes she knows something Osha does not, whilst still having a distorted view of how things went down. And now Mae is leaning into the Dead Ringer, or A Stolen Life, if one prefers, aspect of this show. Given how Sol says, “Where’s your sister?” rather than “Where is Mae?” he might have an inkling that Mae is not Osha, though Bazil and the absence of the tattoo will help him figure things out, especially with him going through a lot, mentally and emotionally. Qimir definitely knows Osha is Osha and God knows where they’re off to. A humdinger of an episode indeed.

Saltire
>>141925605

Thats the irony of the Sith, that they think that the Jedi get in the way of their destiny without realising that tying themselves to the dark side binds them to a limiting path and that those chains will never be broken without redemption or following the will of the force instead of trying to manipulate it. They are a fascinating concept, but I would hate to be one if I was in that universe and had the force potential. Guess I'm too much of a wussy goodie two-shoes I suppose! They are a great mirror image to the monk-like Jedi though, and tend to be a lot cooler except for Obi-Wan and Kanan! :D Hehe no apology for my Yord, a true Sith you will become! ;) Still not watched House Of The Dragon yet, dunno if I will ever get round to it either at this rate, and I loved Game Of Thrones except for season 6 and 7.

Thomas Corp
>>141925605

Yes, the whole concept of the Sith, “It’s ironic.” as Sheev would say. They are SO much cooler than the Jedi. “a true Sith you will become!” I wouldn’t doubt it. Hope you enjoy House of the Dragon if you get to it. Game of Thrones, my least favorite season was season five. I otherwise loved it, even the last two seasons, rushed though I freely concede they were.

Saltire
>>142052201

Ok the devastation of losing my dearest Yord, is softened by that legend Hamill in perhaps his finest performance as the clown prince of crime! I was watching someone do a playthrough of the Arkham games recently and they got right into all things Batman, so I have been binging on it myself quite recently, and hearing Hamill throughout the series as the magnificent Joker, is a real treat. I started the animated series too, but not been back to it for a while. Qimir echoes Joker here in his lunacy and threat, though he's not as charming and charismatic as the magnificent Joker is. :) We don't really see proper sabre throws in live action Star Wars, though the animations and games are full of them. Great seeing a proper one here and not Vader's fling at Luke in Return Of The Jedi. I heard some ask why they didn't pick up the bodies before getting out of Dodge, but I hope that Sol can get back to Coruscant to get a large crew here to pick up the bodies for proper funerals back at the Temple and to investigate more about this Sith. In their present state, and with Sol the only Jedi left, he was not going to be able to pick them all up and carry them back to the ship, especially since Qimir is still very much on this planet. Of course yes, the Inquisitorious are another tool of the Sith, like these acolytes/assassins for them to enable their plans, whilst keeping hidden and never really having their power threatened. I think Dooku would recoil in horror at Qimir's style, though Dooku was always a bit of a snob. And at least Qimir embraces the chaos he brings, instead of hiding behind bringing order back to the Republic. I have a feeling we'll see the true Dark Lord Of The Sith in the finale, whoever it may be. The showrunners have embraced a lot of the lore so far, so I can see them not being shy in showing us one of the big boys, who will eventually succeed and bring around a brief era of a Sith Empire. I don't think Qimir, for all his attributes, will make it that far, but I'm more than open to having a darkish ending since we know the Jedi can't succeed here. Hehe its fine about Yord. I really liked him, but being serious its not like losing Kanan or one or two others, where there is a genuine feeling of sadness whenever I hear their name or see them again! I glee up whenever Windu gets defenestrated, so I fully understand where you come from with your annoyance and hilarity with Yord lol! :D On Sol, we saw since the first episode at the temple, that he carries plenty of emotion and attachment within him, and tries to balance it; but with everything that went on with the coven, here and with the sisters, he is walking dangerously close to falling here; and which Qimir really plays on, which Maul used to do so much with Obi-Wan to unbalance him. Great stuff. He did have to be pulled back from killing an unarmed Qimir, like Luke finds within him in Return Of The Jedi when defeating Vader. Poetic. God I love Star Wars! :D Sol does seem as if he wants to apologise but try to make Osha see the justification for whatever went on that night, but yes he does act quite suspicious when approached on it, though this is not the time or place for that yet. Yep though Mae is duplicitous, she definitely has another view on what happened that night, which is why Osha wanting to go off with the Jedi then, set her off to seek to kill her sister in flames. And yes, they made the point in the earlier episodes of showing both Qimir knowing that Osha wasn't Mae, and the tattoo scene with Osha and Sol, is an easy way for the latter especially to find her out and try to bring her round. Though this episode resolved a lot of things, it also set up many questions and is intriguing to see what will happen as we begin to wrap up this story.

Thomas Corp
>>142052201

Mark Hamill as our dear Clown Prince of Crime does wonders for the spirit. He is the best portrayal of the Joker. I read the comics; I hear his voice. The Arkham games are so good. I love the Animated Series. It was great when I was a kid, and revisiting it as an adult, it holds up so well. Qimir does have a long way to go before he is anywhere near the level of our beloved Mr. J. Outside of the games, yeah, we really don’t get too many good saber throws in the films. I do so love Vader’s saber fling at Luke having the high ground and how his body language practically screams, “Oh, HELL no! I am NOT going through that shit again!” Impressive though Sol is, carrying all those bodies by his lonesome, especially the ones that aren’t wholly intact, would be a tall order. We’ll see if they send a clean-up crew to get the bodies back home to be burned on the pyres. It is feeling like Qimir is in a similar thing of the Inquisitorious; having the greater numbers at your disposal to act as enforcers and assassins whilst sidestepping the Rule of Two. Assuming he is not his own rogue faction. Dooku was always a man who prided himself on his dignity which is what Sir Christopher Lee successfully argued as to why Dooku would not beg for his life in the end as was the original intention. And yeah, when it came to lightaber combat and swordplay, he never really indulged in the usual Sith cruelty as his fellow Sith have done. I could see Dooku being mildly taken aback by seeing Qimir in action. Qimir’s fortunes look dismal, and will possibly meet his end at the hands of whatever Dark Lord of the Sith that the showrunners presumably have waiting in the wings. Kanan’s death is one that’s pretty hard to top, sadness-wise. I glee up in that scene of Mace getting defenestrated as well, but that’s more because of the rapturous joy of Sidious unleashing the beast and letting it run free with Ian so clearly relishing every second of the experience. I like that about Sol in that, though he does see the necessity of being wary of attachments and emotions, he doesn’t fully close himself off from them either as they do provide a different kind of strength as well. He’s at the precipice here. Like Maul attempting to unbalance Obi-Wan. Sidious unbalancing Mace and to a lesser extent Yoda. Luke unleashing A Jedi’s Fury against Vader, underscored by John’s BEAUTIFULLY HAUNTING cue of the same name. Terrific examples of how the stanzas keep rhyming. Concerning whatever happened with the coven, Sol looks like he’s bracing himself to explain the justification and offer apologies simultaneously. And it looks like he’s bracing himself for Osha’s anger and heartbreak if what I think happened, happened, and it looks like Sol’s preemptively making peace with whatever reaction Osha will have; he will accept it. Of course, Mae interrupts, and I’m still waiting to hear her perspective on this whole business. Everything’s in place for Mae to get found out with her Dead Ringer switcharoo. Questions still remain, and I look forward to how we tackle them.

Saltire
>>142052201

Yeah I agree about Hamill being the best interpretation of Joker, he has the lot. Fun, wacky, psychotic, dangerous, manipulative and deadly. And Mark plays each scene with him, with relish! Haha yeah, that bloody high ground haunts Vader so much. Perhaps thats why he stood on top of a TIE fighter at the Sith Temple in Rebels to get it in before some other sod did! :D Qimir could be going it alone, thats true and we've seen that before through Maul and Savage, before Sidious came in to give them both a slap! I never got Dooku as a Sith until Clone Wars when we saw how far he was gone then. I've never bought Vader as a Sith either tbh. Maul and Sidious definitely felt right as members of that religion. Qimir seems to be doing so too just now - IF he is indeed one or an outcast; though I'd say its more than 95% valid that he is/was a member of that order; just with some of the things he's said in the show and the fact that he seemingly knows about them. Lets see. I do also think that with him exposing himself here will lead to bad ramifications for him, like the aforementioned Clone Wars encounter with Sidious, Maul and Savage. Or else perhaps Sol does take him out himself in some sort of sacrificial move. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out. Yeah I loved the music in Return Of The Jedi, when Luke goes a bit nuts echoing his father. Its so operatic. The music building up to that too, is the darkest Williams ever done for Star Wars, even more than Padme's Ruminations and Anakin's Dark Deeds. I also think Sol is ready for any retribution from Osha if it comes to that, he feels guilt about what happened that night it seems. Osha hasn't tended to get overboard in her emotions unlike her sister however, and does bring back Sol here as he's about to strike down Qimir. Perhaps she will accept his recount anyway - once she gets back that is!!

Thomas Corp
>>142052201

Yeah, Mark has it all with the Joker. I know he says he would always have such fun with the character because of the pure unpredictability, leading to the myriad of ways you can approach the role. He’s now retired from the role. I mean, he’s said that multiple times, but this time, with Kevin Conroy’s death, it looks to be permanent as, “Without Batman, crime has no punchline.” The high ground haunting Vader is most CERTAINLY why he did that move with the TIE fighter. That and it looked awesome. Qimir reads like either a rogue apprentice, or someone trying to start his own Rule of Two. Dooku and Vader both, I buy as Sith, albeit they aren’t as devout and/or fanatical about it as others like the Emperor or Maul. Qimir feels like a member of the Sith, or least like he wants to be; he’s definitely studied the teachings if nothing else. The ramifications could go several different ways, same with Sol’s fate. We’ll see how it goes. That music in Return of the Jedi is one of the best things ever; I love how when Luke severs Vader’s hand, how the music then segues into The Emperor’s Theme with Sheev himself cackling and letting out a trademark “Goooooood!” to really hammer home the horror of what Luke just did. Revenge of the Sith has my favorite score of the saga, and John’s filmography. Return of the Jedi, I’d say is the very close second favorite of John’s Star Wars scores. I’m with him on loving the theme Luke and Leia so much. True, given Osha’s relatively stable emotional foundation, she might not react as harshly as Sol might expect. I can put myself in his shoes in bracing myself for hatred, and I’d even say to Osha, “I wouldn’t blame you if you spat in my face.” So, whilst Sol might have a “Do as you will.” mentality, Osha may prove herself a worthy Jedi if she handles the revelations with grace. Once she gets back, that is.