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Thomas Corp

This show, you can tell, definitely had the Knights of the Old Republic influence, the second one especially. I think that’s part of why I’m not as taken with Qimir as everyone else is, engaging character though he is, because he’s reminiscent of Atton, and thus, he gets a mite overshadowed. That and there’s the obvious Kylo Ren influence, which I’m not overly fond of that part of it. Solid finale to this. All coming together. Nice theme song, by the way, Jess. Similar thoughts that you had that certain areas could have been explored more. What we do get is good, so it’s a minimal complaint. It sounds like plenty of fans were most appreciative of the one Senator asking “Where is the library? Because I came here to read.” as you put it. The dude is right. I loved the praise you gave to Lee for his portrayal as Sol. You’re right that when cast he did not speak English. The comparison has been made to Bela Lugosi when he came to America, his earliest acting work in the States, Bela learned his lines phonetically. Here, Lee did the same, and he did it so well. Shared love of the fight scenes and how they show the characters. Loved how you’re on Team Bazil. Still the question of if he is or is he not Darth Bazil. I like how the focus was kept ultimately on the sisters, their relation to Sol, and the tying off the loose threads attached to the old wounds. You expressed similar to my thoughts on Sol maintaining that he did the right thing. Sol’s insistence that he did the right thing is something that you can tell he needs to believe. Really not the thing to say though to the person whose parent you killed, though it’s still tame compared to Mace Windu telling Boba that he’s “going to have to” forgive Mace for his killing of Jango, which is still the one time I just yell, “FUCK you, Mace.” Addressing the prediction of the force choke. My mind was on more how with the Dark Side, if one is powerful enough, a lightsaber is meaningless. The force choke is simply one way it could be done, killing a Jedi without a weapon. That suspicion you had that Osha saw herself killing Sol was shared by me, only the idea clicked as soon as she said she had the vision. Shared thoughts as well that it wasn’t surprising, though there is that LOVELY moment when the Kyber crystal bleeds. A good touch how Osha sobs, and she and Mae can’t even get any satisfaction as Sol makes it known with his dying breath that he forgives Osha. The ultimate revenge: forgiveness. Then again, revenge is not the Jedi way, so it’s still a win for the Dark Side. An interesting development of Mae’s memory being wiped so that Osha and Qimir can return to the planet. The planet, that, by the way, has been confirmed not to be Ach-To, though it is deliberately meant to be evocative of Ach-To. Alas, poor PIP. The gut reaction to Vern framing Sol was like the reaction to Cid’s betrayal, particularly as it’s similarly depressingly unsurprising. Only here there was greater anger, and when you see Vern cover things up, I’m saying, “Oh, this goddamn bitch.” I loved your own reaction to that. She dropped some spots in terms of ranking the Jedi. She still has ways to go before dethroning Vrook Lamar as the worst Jedi ever. (Pong Krell being considered “a dumb, dumb face” instead of a Jedi, as you said, Jess, and he’s also in the special rung of being loathed and despised, being third behind Ramsay Bolton and Dolores Umbridge.) She is acting out of some type of emotion through her connection with Qimir, which a thing I liked about this show is that the twists, though easy enough to predict, are executed well, and the show doesn’t act like you should be shocked beyond belief. And now Vern is using Mae to try to find Qimir with her ham-handed Obi-Wan reference. First though, she pays a visit to our little green friend, loved your reaction to that. The ending also suggests that the Jedi will just continue to adhere to their dogmatic narrow view of things. The one inevitable exchange will be Vern asking which ever Jedi she ends up talking to, say Ki-Adi, perhaps, “What did we learn, Ki-Adi?” and when told, “I don’t know.” she’ll likely reply, “I don’t fucking know either. I guess we learned not to do it again. I’m fucked if I know what we did.” We could get more seasons given there are some loose threads with the twins. There is also still the matter of on this planet, that rather mysterious and ominous figure who looks most powerful and wise. But that’s another story. Which brings me to gushing a little since you say you did get spoiled. You mentioned you got spoiled, a voice in my head yelled, “Tom, what did you do, spoiling Jess about that?!” and I yelled back, “I didn’t say anything!! I was cool!!!” First there is the old question: Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? You are correct that given your experience, Jess, you would not know what Plagueis looked like. I anticipated that and was only planning to leave a brief mention of your reaction to Plagueis, and that was it. Since you got spoiled, we have my gushing. Because I do know what Plagueis looks like. I saw him, freaked the FUCK out, yelling, “Oh, my God!!! IT’S HAPPENING!!!!” Plagueis did serve Darth energy, that’s for goddamn sure. I maintain my shortlist for my ideal Plagueis casting. That being either: David Thewlis, Daniel Davis, Timothy Dalton, or Charles Dance. And like I said on youtube, that headline you said you saw that read, “Darth!! Plagueis!! Bitch!!!” is accurate.

Thomas Corp

Now to talk about what you discussed at the end of the video. Yes, sadly, LOTS of fans are being complete goddamn fucking crybabies about this show. I take great exception to them calling you a “dumb bitch” and/or “bimbo”. You know at least some of the more vocal complainers are just straight up bigots at this point. I’m not saying that people can’t have legitimate grievances or criticisms about the show. But people who do, you can still have civilized and nuanced discussions and conversations about it. I haven’t hugely discussed this show with too many people yet. Nobody at work seems to want to talk about it, nor House of the Messy, though I’m grateful for that one as fan discussion on that one can get ugly. I have talked with my brother about The Acolyte, and he’s greatly enjoyed it. Sure, mild quibble here and there, but overall, we’ve had a positive view on the series. My brother does note he can get the fans being upset about the episode when Jecki and Yord got killed, particularly as my brother agrees with me that it was upsetting to see Jecki get killed as she was a badass. My brother is also somewhat laughing at how much hate the witches got as he and I really didn’t see any valid reason why people got so upset by that. I share your views, Jess, that past a point, you just stop caring what the crybabies are going on about. I reached my breaking point/moment of clarity five years ago with The Rise of Skywalker. I saw that on opening night, loved it, had one of the best cinema-going experiences I’ve ever had. People went on about how irretrievably awful it was; that it ruined the saga. I loved it, and even if in the years to come it doesn’t hold up as well as other Star Wars films or shows, I still have that night. So, anymore there is that backlash or whinging from the never satisfied fans, I just say, “Now, just a minute! If you have any legitimate criticisms or grievances to make, make them in the proper manner. Otherwise, I’m going to have to ask you to get out.” I am pleased that, though you do note that some of the response is upsetting, you’re letting it not get to you much. I do also share your inability to judge the foul language. I’d be the same in that I’d sound like Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinny when he yells at Marisa Tomei for swearing, by yelling, “What IS it with you and that mouth!?” And I loved how you gave such love to those who have stood by you and loved your Star Wars journey. Not even talking about myself. I’m talking about the others that I’ve enjoyed the discussions with who you can tell are most appreciative as I am that you just watch Star Wars, you take the time to look at the story and characters that you are getting, you don’t complain about things you didn’t get. And in the end, even if there are the occasional mild quibbles, you still always maintain such a positive energy, and it is most appreciated in sharing this show with you. It’s a major reason why you are the BEST reactor on the internet, Jess. I mean that with all my heart, you are the best. And these reactions to The Acolyte were most lovely, and I thank you so very much for the wonderful time that was had sharing the show with you. I would love there to be future seasons. If there are not, then again, thank you for the lovely time with this show, Jess, it was wonderful.

Ryan
>>144014629

Lee put so much practice into learning English that there were days he couldn't eat at all with how sore his tongue was. One of those times where you have to say "Much as I appreciate someone who deeply cares about their art, I would like you to ease up, please." My most loathed character ever is Kai Winn, which for my money tops even Nurse Ratched as the magnum opus of Louise Fletcher's career. So I guess Bazil would be the Brad Pitt of this Burn After Reading scenario? Good for him making it through, then.

Ryan
>>144014635

My favorite is the complaining about Mae telling Sol "See you in Hell," when none other than Han Solo said the same thing in what's popularly considered the best of the OT, and there was even a whole thing where the people in charge of the lore had to contrive a reason why Star Wars characters would talk about Hell. The way I like to put it is my experience with Quantummania: "I saw the movie before anyone could tell me I was supposed to hate it, so I didn't, and now I'm stuck having the wrong opinion about it."

Thomas Corp
>>144014629

I think one of the strongest examples of “Much as I appreciate someone who deeply cares about their art, I would like you to ease up, please.” is when Daniel Day-Lewis got sick whilst filming Gangs of New York and rejected the antibiotics as they wouldn’t have existed by the time the film was set. I need to refresh my memory of Deep Space Nine, though I am aware that Kai Winn is deeply despised by Trekkies. Combined with how Louise was absurdly magnificent in her portrayal of Nurse Ratched, I don’t doubt that Kai Winn is hateful as all hell. Haha, yeah, I suppose Bazil would be the Brad Pitt in this Burn After Reading scenario, see you caught that reference, by the way. Very good.

Ryan

I've been wishing for so long for one of these things to really take the Jedi down a peg, so this is just feeding me. And I want to see so much more of Senator Martian Manhunter going full Jack Smith on their asses. Definitely the highlight of the reaction for me. Sol has been an admirably complex figure this whole time, never quite sure what to make of him, but his continuing to insist all these years later that murdering all the witches was the right thing to do is where he loses me. And if you're going to rely on "You didn't hear it, you didn't see it, and you'll say nothing to no one ever in your life," you'd better hope the witness ends up deaf, dumb, and blind or it'll never work in the long run. At least before that he gives us one of the absolute best lightsaber fights in the franchise history, including something I've been hoping against hope to see ever since the show's Asian martial arts influence was made clear, a katana-and-wakizashi lightsaber. I've never been a fan of the "bleeding Kyber crystal" thing, and I'd settled on treating it the same way as the whole "every single person in the galaxy forgot the Jedi ever existed after ten years" thing, content to ignore it if it's not being shoved in my face. But this actually made it work, with the thematic resonance of Osha doing it to Sol's own lightsaber. And so we end with two lying green bitches trying to figure out how their lies can work together, as long as they can keep track of what Art Vandelay is supposed to be importing and exporting. And meanwhile, what was first just a dream has become a frightening reality for those who may oppose us. This show definitely had its flaws, but it's got so many great ideas that I look forward to seeing develop in an increasingly likely-looking second season.

Thomas Corp
>>144014635

Oh Jesus. People are complaining about that? Setting aside the Empire line which immediately crossed my mind seeing Mae have her line, in A New Hope, the FIRST fucking film in this entire goddamn franchise, when Leia grabs the gun and starts shooting, Han yells, “What the hell are you doing!?!” I like that way you’ve described Quantummania. Quantummania is one where I get some of the complaints. It wasn’t perfect nor as fun as the previous Ant-Man films, yet it was still fun, and when I saw it with a buddy of mine, we had a good enough time seeing it. Or the 2016 Ghostbusters, much though my aunt, rest her soul, and I found it to be relatively middle of the road, quality-wise, we saw it with a packed and engaged audience, the fun parts we liked, and afterwards, we had great discussions about it, and I look back on it fondly as I had a great time. Then there’s Dial of Destiny where my mom and I saw that opening night, and we laughed, we cheered, and we cried, and had just a marvelous time.

Thomas Corp
>>144022879

Shared opinion on the show feeding me with the glorious meals of the deconstruction of the Jedi. They do, after all, blindly serve a corrupt senate that fails the Republic it represents. I’ll take more of Senator Martian Manhunter. Saying that also makes me want to see fellow Martian Manhunter, Carl Lumbly in Star Wars. The reaction Jess had to the Senator’s scene was indeed a BIG highlight. Fair thoughts on Sol losing you some. Like I said, I read it as he needs to believe that he was right to cope. If nothing else, it feels like a portrait of a man who cannot handle the idea that he did something horribly wrong, thus he deludes himself otherwise so that the guilt becomes palatable, which isn’t the best thing for a Jedi, though it makes for an intriguing character. And yes, unfortunately for Sol, Mae didn’t subscribe to the On the Waterfront mentality as it pertains to being a witness. Or would that be Judgment at Nuremberg? That lightsaber fight was outstanding. I’ve been fond of the bleeding Kyber crystal idea, and I loved seeing it here with the thematic resonance. It is amazing that you said that about the “two lying green bitches” as my brother used practically that exact same description. They do have the tangled Art Vandelay web to navigate. Speaking of which, my brother said he too thought of George during the one Qimir scene in the sixth episode, and he told me that he screamed at the tv, “I WAS IN THE POOL!!!” when he saw it. It is looking likely that we will get a second season, hopefully beyond. Particularly as it would mean more of that which was first just a dream, and is now a most frightening and marvelous reality for those who may oppose us. Lovely use of that fantastic Thrawn quote, by the way. And if the timeline progresses far enough, said dream will include a certain apprentice, and I, of course, will be SO HERE FOR THAT. Shared thought on though not perfect at spots, this show was amazing, my brother said he felt the same. I look forward to more ideas that this show could have.

Ryan
>>144022879

The reference was actually to Tommy. I saw it on Broadway just this weekend and couldn’t believe such a great opportunity came this quickly.

Thomas Corp
>>144022879

Ah. Ok. Yeah, very good timing then to be able to use that reference. Oh, by the way, I see the Emmy nominations are in, and it’s some good picks. The limited series category is tough with Ripley, Fargo, and True Detective being in the bunch. Very nice to see Andrew Scott be nominated for his performance as Tom. I recall you said feeling he’s perhaps tied with Alain Delon as the best performance of Tom, thus it’s nice to see him get the recognition. Just as nice to see Steven Zaillian receiving the nominations for writing and directing. Nice as well to see Fargo get the acting attention again, as say what one will about the fourth season, the acting was still phenomenal. Rabbi being my favorite of that season, Ebal and Doctor Senator being tied for second with Oraetta shortly behind. I see for this season of Fargo Juno Temple and Jon Hamm are up for the lead categories and Lamorne Morris up for supporting. Somewhat displeased with my favorites of the season being overlooked. My favorite of the season being Lorraine. A man being a very close second favorite of the season. And they both got snubbed, but such is life.

Ryan
>>144022879

Incredible to see Shogun with the most nominations. I’ve been a fan of the book for so long, and while the 1980 adaptation is pretty great on its own, it’s also clearly held back by technical limitations of the time, and I’d been hoping for years we’d get an update like this, not daring to hope it would be this amazing. Though I hate so much that they’re giving it the Handmaid’s Tale treatment and making it an ongoing series. Not only is the story clearly over, most of the best characters are dead, so what the hell do you do with that?

Saltire

I'm rewatching episode 7 and 8 tomorrow, and probably your reaction then too Jess, so will speak more my thoughts then on the finale. However I'm sorry and sickened to hear about what you have experienced with some absolute fuckwits online regarding this show. There seems to be a concerted effort from a large group of twats, who have been review bombing this show when the trailer came out, and have been getting more and more vociferous in slating everything about this show, because many of them can't think for themselves and have to rely on the opinions of Youtubers, who graft away on shitting on anything Star Wars (under Disney, though the way they go on about it you'd think that Lucas, Ahmed Best, Hayden Christensen and Jake Lloyd had it easy during the prequels), especially when it concerns female characters and doubly so if they aren't white in colour. I rarely check out the comments sections on Youtube Star Wars vids now, but I did for one of your Bad Batch reactions recently where you were accused of being a "fake Star Wars fan". I saw you replied to it and that there were many comments in those replies, but I daren't check what bile was spouted out towards you. I can't imagine getting responses like that every vid. I'm one who bites back, and in fact I was banned for good on the main Star Wars reddit page a few weeks back, for getting stuck into those whingers, who went crying to the mods, who booted me out. However, thats actually been a godsend, as I no longer peruse there and just check out places that think about this wonderful franchise, have fun and talk like adults - or heck giddy schoolchildren - about it. I'm in a happier place and more content with it all. You of course can't do that as you run a Youtube channel and this is your vocation now, and no doubt want to check out the numbers and how your videos do and come across, so will see that rubbish. I dunno how you do it! Please don't judge the actions of these idiots as representative of the Star Wars fanbase. There are millions of us out there, who love it, warts and all, as it makes us feel 8 years old again, and will always do so - and thats a precious thing as we age; that the wonder and joy of this universe, far outweighs the hyperbolic negativity surrounding a part of the fanbase; and I hope that doesn't discourage you from continuing with it going forward when Skeleton Crew arrives later in the year, as there are many of us, who appreciate your thoughts and reactions to this fantastical, daft and silly space opera!

Thomas Corp
>>144028747

Yeah, the overly splenetic fuckwits are growing most wearisome in dealing with them. There does seem to be a militant mindset to just shit on everything Disney Star Wars. I remember it standing out when people hated on Rose and were belligerent as all hell to Kelly Marie Tran, and it was appalling to me. Particularly as it felt like nobody learned their lessons after the cruelty that was subjected to Lucas, Jake Lloyd, Hayden, and especially Ahmed. It is more pronounced when the character is a woman and not white. Like I said, I had my issues with the Third Sister, though those issues felt somewhat like the show intended me to have such a response, judging by the reactions of the Grand Inquisitor, Fourth Sister, and Fifth Brother. And even with that, my beef was not with Moses Ingram as she was good, slightly better writing though I wish she got. I recall that “fake fan” comment that you mentioned. I replied to the poster of said comment by saying, “Oh no. You will find that it is YOU who are mistaken. About. A great. Many. Things.” I bite back when lines are crossed. If there’s genuine difference of opinion, that’s one thing. Personal attack, that’s something else, and is not called for. Reddit, as I’ve mentioned, I browse for the memes. One was somebody else having the same George Costanza idea with the one Qimir scene. I sent the meme to my brother, who laughed hard. I did give up with reddit with House of the Messy, as that’s gotten too ugly. Not here. On Jess’s patreon, it’s lovely. Anymore, you seek out those places like here where we have fun and talk like adults/giddy schoolchildren. And... We shall have... peace. Being eight years old was a quarter century ago now. How I long for then where you, or, well I should say my brother who was thirteen then, and I just loved Phantom Menace, you were blissfully unaware of the bile and backlash it got, and instead just relished the expansion of the franchise. The creative world building. New characters like Qui-Gon, Plo Koon, and especially Darth Maul. The introduction of Darth Sidious and with that, seeing Palpatine’s grand and glorious plan, with Ian being amazing. On top of it all, more majestic music from John, which even the most ardent haters gave credit where credit was due. The fandom bile became more known to me between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith, and it was disheartening. And it’s always a wonderful thing to feel that childlike wonder again. The Obi-Wan show, my brother and I got thrown back two decades, and it felt indescribably good. Are there genuine flaws and/or problems in some of these films or shows? Sure. Do the films and shows still bring joy even with those flaws and problems? Oh, absolutely. That line in Little Miss Sunshine, “You do what you love, and fuck the rest.” I look forward to sharing with Jess and you guys Skeleton Crew. Particularly looking forward to one cast member from Better Call Saul among other things being in Skeleton Crew. Because yes, there is MASSIVE appreciation for the thoughts and reactions to this fantastical, daft and silly space opera that Jess has.

Saltire
>>144028747

I saw you speak about Rise Of Skywalker when you went to see it, and it was one of your great Star Wars experiences. I hadn't seen the trailer for it, though wondered why people were speaking about a certain someone in the build up to going to see the film. When I sat down and it started, I was a bit taken back, but I said to myself, "lets run with it", and I had a fantastic time with it, aside from one or two daft scenes. I'm also glad you brought up the Kenobi series, that largely gets slated. Did the Inquisitor stuff, including Reva, miss the mark for me? Yes. Is that a fault with Moses Ingram or her fellow Inquisitor actors - including Rupert Friend as the GI? No. Did it matter to me? Also, no, as the show was about Obi-Wan's journey from everything finally getting on top of him after shit going down, and having to protect Leia and face Vader again to rediscover his greatness. And in that, it delivered spectacularly; that final episode has me in floods of tears every time I rewatch it, its so good, and seeing Vader disabled makes me feel pity and relative empathy for Anakin in ways that I don't during most of the other times I see him, that his fall was tragic and preventable, and it tore the galaxy in two. All that more than makes up for any short-comings in that series. Same with BoBF, that wasn't perfect, but I find myself now wanting to see more Boba and Fennec adventures, when I wasn't bothered about them before. I really enjoyed Ahsoka, though some parts may have been done better imo and the finale I wasn't fond of, but that fifth episode is as good Star Wars, as you'll see anywhere - and again I respect Anakin a bit more because of how he helps Snips drop all that baggage she's been carrying for 30 years and move forward - phenomenal! Mando season 3 people say was a disappointment. Not for me, I enjoyed every second of it, love the segue with Dr. Pershing and the awful fate he has in one of the episodes, had great fun with Jack Black, Lizzo and Christopher Lloyd, and that puppet moss pirate fella (especially when that very episode had our beloved Zeb cameo too!), and was engrossed with the Mandalore story, especially when it involved so heavily seeing my favourite Mandalorian in Bo-Katan get her mojo back. There is only one piece of Star Wars I have major issues with, and thats the last third of Attack Of The Clones; the rest, for its ups and downs, I've lapped up so many times over the decades now, and I'm sure I will do with it, till the end of my days. I had to check to see who you meant by that BCS cast member showing up. Interesting - and I always thought that person has appeared in Star Wars before as well, but it seems hasn't. Always liked them too, terrific actor. I also have a genuine feeling we will see a well known SW character in it too (that they may possibly play?), so my excitement has been building for that as well, even if I'm not the biggest fan of Jude Law. Anyway I can't understand why people really want to set about spouting vitriol all the time about this franchise, especially when its always just meant to be a bit of fun. I don't see why anyone would constantly waste energy by shitting on it, when they can just move on to other things, if thats the way they feel. Then again perhaps their vendetta's against the franchise, is an excuse to express their bigotry, in the same way many of them have been fired up by the media and elsewhere, to behave appallingly about politics.

Ryan
>>144028747

I was born in 1984, which means I was in the exact sweet spot to have always known the original trilogy as a complete unit, while also experiencing the full 15 years in which those three movies were THE ONLY STAR WARS THERE WAS. Then the prequels were my generation's new Star Wars, coming right when I was at my worst edgelord teenager phase where I did my share of mocking Jake and Ahmed, which I feel absolutely horrible about now even before we learned just how bad it got for them. So all my current disdain for the worst Star Wars fans is coming from a place of knowing exactly the kind of high you get from it, and hoping they can also grow out of it. But even then, I distinctly remember there not being anywhere near the kind of open racism and sexism you see from the haters now (and keep in mind, this was the same era where Peter Parker gave Bonesaw a homophobic insult and no one thought twice about it, because that was just how we all talked). And in the meantime I also want to shout at them "You get new Star Wars pretty much every month! Appreciate that, dammit!"

Thomas Corp
>>144028747

I did see the trailers for The Rise of Skywalker. The first one being shortly after my birthday and that increased the hype. I am sympathetic to the complaints about being taken aback by how the primary plotline is presented. I didn’t give a single solitary shit as I was just SO HAPPY. Glad to hear you had the “All right, let’s run with this and see how it goes” mentality with the film and that you enjoyed it. There are one or two spots that do falter some. One pulled me out of it for a second, though it was nobody’s fault, and it’s something that if Carrie had lived, it wouldn’t have even been an issue. It is disappointing how the Obi-Wan show got the bile. I will say I am more interested in the Third Sister’s journey post-show. There is still the wish of Jason as live action Grand Inquisitor, but Rupert did good. And it introduced Rya as the Fourth Sister. It is, as you say, ultimately about Obi’s journey of protecting Leia, facing Vader, and making as best he can, peace with the past, and the show delivered and then some. Yeah, the floodgates are STRONG with that last episode. Made worse with how it was real time in and out of universe for how long it’s been since Phantom Menace when it aired. Praise indeed that you say that seeing Vader in such a state makes you feel pity and relative empathy for Anakin in ways that you don’t during most of the other times you see him. The thing in Obi-Wan I most readily concede is that the scene of smuggling Leia out in the coat looks silly as shit. But it’s a small enough thing in the grand scheme that you can say it’s way too ridiculous, yet it doesn’t ruin the whole thing. Mild issues how Mando hijacked the show notwithstanding, Book of Boba Fett was so goddamn fun. I’ll take lots more of Boba and Fennec. I second Temuera saying he wants to hijack a Mando episode as payback. Shared thoughts on Ahsoka in that certain spots could have been done better, yet it still was great. I could have used more Thrawn, though I already know I’ll get more, so it’s not even a complaint. That fifth episode is a masterpiece with Ahsoka having her Matter of Life and Death trial where she sheds her baggage, and again, you offer the strong compliment of respecting Anakin a bit more. Mando season three was great. Loved the Andor feeling episode with Dr. Pershing. The Jack Black, Lizzo, and Christopher Lloyd episode was a gas to watch on my birthday, and was so good to have such a strong laugh following Tech’s death the week prior. Garden Salad Pizza the Hutt was fun. Zeb was most welcome, and amusing how Jess got that spoiler that he’d live through Rebels. I knew you’d love the strong focus that Bo got; I loved her arc as well. And it gave Carl, in what ended up being something of a swan song for him, fantastic material as Greef. That last third of Attack of the Clones is a bit much. There’s still LOVELY Count Dooku scenes, and it has that glorious shot of Palpatine overseeing the clone army on Coruscant with John providing a terrific presentation of The Imperial March to underscore that scene. God that scene was beautiful in the theater. It is surprising that the cast member from Better Call Saul hasn’t been in Star Wars yet. I’m looking forward to her in Star Wars as she was great in Better Call Saul, and she was outstanding in The Banshees of Inisherin. If I am correct on the character you allude to, I would be very agreeable to her as that character. Jude Law, I like well enough. Not one of my FAVORITE favorite actors, yet I like him well enough. His portrayal of Dumbledore says to me that he does not have a face for a beard as it looked odd on him. There is that thing with the fans where you just want to yell at them that if they don’t like something, they can leave. Why waste the energy? Your thought that their vendetta against the franchise is an excuse to express their bigotry, in the same way many of them have been fired up by the media and elsewhere, to behave appallingly about politics. That does seem quite likely as they’ve been railing against Doctor Who since Peter Capaldi regenerated. Legit problems though I had with Chibnall’s era of Doctor Who, Jodie Whittaker was not one of them, and there was appalling hatred sent the show’s way that hasn’t let up. Though again, Jess and her reactions and patreon, everyone is lovely.

Thomas Corp
>>144028747

Replying to Ryan, I was born in 1991, leaving an interesting window of being just old enough that when first shown the original trilogy three decades ago, there weren’t even the special editions. And those were the only movies for a few years. Like you say, the Prequels were the generation’s new Star Wars. There is much more open racism and sexism that you see from the haters now. I also want to scream “You get new Star Wars pretty much every month! Appreciate that, goddamn it!” to the morons.

Ryan
>>144028747

The coat scene actually came very close to working for me, because I find it just makes it more tense that the only thing Obi Wan can think of with their extremely limited resources is to just stuff her under there and hope for the best. The thing that kills it is the insert shot of Leia peeking out like Sonic the Hedgehog in the Adventures cartoon, like they actually thought we'd be too stupid to figure out what was going on.

Thomas Corp
>>144028747

That’s my consistent defense of it as well: that given the limited time and resources, that’s realistically the only viable option Obi and Tala had. It just happens to look completely ridiculous. And in story it works as everyone is too busy scrambling to deal with the flooding to notice at first. The Fifth Brother’s ranting about how the Third Sister will pay. The Fourth Sister’s just focused on the flooding too. Again, the silliness of the image does pull you out of it some, especially that borderline cartoon shot of Leia peeking. I still keep kicking myself that when I saw the Austin Powers comparisons, after cracking up, I yelled at myself, “HOW did I not make that comparison myself?”

Josef Schiltz
>>144028747

Although I've not really been into Star Wars, I had seen the originals when they were released, then the updated effects and the Prequels and, to be honest, I thought they were okay. I honestly don't get all the hate that goes on and it is extreme and unhealthy. Same with the various bits of business with Who, and Clara especially, and I just think for goodness sake, get a grip!

Thomas Corp
>>144028747

Yeah, The Phantom Menace came out when I was eight, like I said, and I was just loving the new Star Wars. Looking on it twenty-five years later, sure there’s elements that don’t age especially well, yet overall, it holds up well, at least I think so. As you say, you don’t understand the hate, and you wish people would just let some things go. Hell, Next Gen, masterpiece of television though it is, had a misfire or too, yet we don’t just decry the whole show because of that. Or like you bring up Doctor Who, which, sure has had it’s rough patches. I’m upfront of having my issues with Chibnall’s writing, yet there was still good stuff in there/stuff I enjoyed well enough whilst wishing for FAR more cohesive writing and stronger character arcs and focus. Clara’s one of my absolute favorite companions, if not my favorite, and I am puzzled by the hate she gets from time to time. With Doctor Who, Star Wars, Star Trek, or other great institutions, there’s something for everyone. You love what you love. You hold onto that. And if people don’t like it, that’s their misfortune.